I agree. The thread was good with some solid responses for awhile and then Mang and Dr know make it their personal sounding board for the uneducated. I ignore at that point. Such is the life at a forum. Good job by some early posters! Peace!
Like several posters mentioned Mang and Dr ruin these threads. Unreal.
Koby was more selfish for sure. Jordan early on was a little too and didn't know how to use his teammates. It took a handful of years like it always does for even the great ones. Koby was worse though.
Why has the thread been ruined?
Because someone had the balls to point out that Jordan was just a jump shooter and could NEVER be considered the best basketball player in any year? A jump shooter is NEVER more important than your big men! This final proves that once again.
Without Grant and Rodman and Pippen and the big ugly centers the bulls had that ONLY rebounded the bulls would have never won anything!
I have my opinions about Jordan and I happen to be correct. Just because you disagree doesn't mean I'm wrong and you're right. Just because a league cheated to make him a lot better than he was doesn't mean he really was that great.
Lebron has a chance to be a lot better than Jordan. He can rebound a lot better already and can pass just as good as Jordan ever could. The only thing missing is the selfishness needed to take EVERY last shot! Wade did it last year and was only in his 2nd year.
Lebron is like Magic in that he knows that every player can make the difference in winning and losing. He knows it's not a 1 man game. Never was and never will be.
You can love Jordan all you guys want. I happen to have seen a lot better all-around players in my life time. A lot of them!
He doesn't now, but his game is about getting everyone involved. You can see he understands this more than Jordan did at 22!
At least he tries UNLIKE Jordan who would just take every shot at the end of the games so he can be the hero.
And it worked! He is a hero to many that don't understand it was his teamates who won those championships. He only made the final shots and got all the glory.
Now Lebron could have a horrible game and the rest of the team could play great and at the end of the game Lebron just happens to make the final shot and you would never hear the end of it. How great Lebron was because he made the final shot.
That's Jordan to a tee!
After reading your last post , I think you now have officially earned the title of being the biggest imbecile on these boards ( especially now that Crunch99 is banned ) You make absolutely no sense whatsoever ... Carrying on an argument with you is similar to trying to discuss Astro Physics with a 3 year old ... The funny thing is , you actually believe the uninformed , opinionated scatology which you post ..
For all you idiots out there who don't think a supporting cast makes a difference.
Since 1980, when LAL won it all, every team that has won the NBA title has at least 1 HOF, with the exception of the DET Pistons a couple years back.
Every team except 2 years ago SAS, DET, and HOU the 1st time around has had least 2 HOFs on their team. You don't need all-stars you need HOF players.
Give me Byron Scott and Dennis Johnson blind folded over any other Cavs player.
There is a reason Pop is going to win his 4th title. He is basically begging someone from CLE to make a play. AV used the same move that I use in 2 on 2 hoops in the backyard. You don't do that shit in the NBA Finals.
To sit there and say LeBron is not great or not a top 5 player in the league is a joke! LeBron and Flip Saunders beat DET and Mike Brown (NO TYPO Brown is an idiot and so is Flip).
Since 1980, when LAL won it all, every team that has won the NBA title has at least 1 HOF, with the exception of the DET Pistons a couple years back.
Every team except 2 years ago SAS, DET, and HOU the 1st time around has had least 2 HOFs on their team. You don't need all-stars you need HOF players.
Give me Byron Scott and Dennis Johnson blind folded over any other Cavs player.
There is a reason Pop is going to win his 4th title. He is basically begging someone from CLE to make a play. AV used the same move that I use in 2 on 2 hoops in the backyard. You don't do that shit in the NBA Finals.
To sit there and say LeBron is not great or not a top 5 player in the league is a joke! LeBron and Flip Saunders beat DET and Mike Brown (NO TYPO Brown is an idiot and so is Flip).
So todays NBA players are way better than 30 years ago, but somehow this Cleveland team that has only 1 player made it to the NBA finals.
What is it? Players are better or not?
royalfan you keep on saying how todays players are way better, but you want everyone to believe this Cleveland team that made the finals doesn't have any of them? How did they make it to the finals if there are so many great players?
You guys don't make any sense!
This Cleveland team wouldn't get close to making the playoffs in 1980. Why? Because the players back them were way better! That's why!
It's also how a jump shooter like Jordan was able to be the best player on the court when he only was a jump shooter who got every call!
It looks to me like Lebron isn't good at all tonight. Again when the Cav's need him where is he? He is not getting double covered either! What is the problem tonight?
Lebron should just stop shooting the ball. It's killing them!
Face it, he's just another media hyped superstar!
And if Cleveland's TEAM comes back and Lebron makes the last shot, He will be the headline AND FOR NO REASON
What is it? Players are better or not?
royalfan you keep on saying how todays players are way better, but you want everyone to believe this Cleveland team that made the finals doesn't have any of them? How did they make it to the finals if there are so many great players?
You guys don't make any sense!
This Cleveland team wouldn't get close to making the playoffs in 1980. Why? Because the players back them were way better! That's why!
It's also how a jump shooter like Jordan was able to be the best player on the court when he only was a jump shooter who got every call!
It looks to me like Lebron isn't good at all tonight. Again when the Cav's need him where is he? He is not getting double covered either! What is the problem tonight?
Lebron should just stop shooting the ball. It's killing them!
Face it, he's just another media hyped superstar!
And if Cleveland's TEAM comes back and Lebron makes the last shot, He will be the headline AND FOR NO REASON
So todays NBA players are way better than 30 years ago, but somehow this Cleveland team that has only 1 player made it to the NBA finals.
What is it? Players are better or not?
royalfan you keep on saying how todays players are way better, but you want everyone to believe this Cleveland team that made the finals doesn't have any of them? How did they make it to the finals if there are so many great players?
You guys don't make any sense!
This Cleveland team wouldn't get close to making the playoffs in 1980. Why? Because the players back them were way better! That's why!
It's also how a jump shooter like Jordan was able to be the best player on the court when he only was a jump shooter who got every call!
It looks to me like Lebron isn't good at all tonight. Again when the Cav's need him where is he? He is not getting double covered either! What is the problem tonight?
Lebron should just stop shooting the ball. It's killing them!
Face it, he's just another media hyped superstar!
And if Cleveland's TEAM comes back and Lebron makes the last shot, He will be the headline AND FOR NO REASON except he made the last shot,
Just like Jordan~!
What is it? Players are better or not?
royalfan you keep on saying how todays players are way better, but you want everyone to believe this Cleveland team that made the finals doesn't have any of them? How did they make it to the finals if there are so many great players?
You guys don't make any sense!
This Cleveland team wouldn't get close to making the playoffs in 1980. Why? Because the players back them were way better! That's why!
It's also how a jump shooter like Jordan was able to be the best player on the court when he only was a jump shooter who got every call!
It looks to me like Lebron isn't good at all tonight. Again when the Cav's need him where is he? He is not getting double covered either! What is the problem tonight?
Lebron should just stop shooting the ball. It's killing them!
Face it, he's just another media hyped superstar!
And if Cleveland's TEAM comes back and Lebron makes the last shot, He will be the headline AND FOR NO REASON except he made the last shot,
Just like Jordan~!
I hear ya. Every team eventually get's better as the other teams get older. That is why Lebron will eventually look or be better, basically because he will be older than most of the other player's and will get more call's. No doubt he has talent, but imo he is not a very good decision maker.
