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The fact that 'the only ones dems will get behind' is a fked position, candidacy wise, agree?

Yeah.....they don't have anybody to energize the base right now.....but that could change in next 4 years. If trump is horrible.....even a half decent candidate could beat him.
 

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Yeah.....they don't have anybody to energize the base right now.....but that could change in next 4 years. If trump is horrible.....even a half decent candidate could beat him.

True.

No denying, though, Trump has energized the country.

There will be positives and negatives, as with any administration.
 

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True.

No denying, though, Trump has energized the country.

There will be positives and negatives, as with any administration.

He has energized a portion and divided a bigger portion.

He ended up running against someone very unpopular. Biden or obama beats him badly. He lost by 3 million votes and won by small amount in handful of swing states against the most unpopular candidate ever.
 

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He has energized a portion and divided a bigger portion.

He ended up running against someone very unpopular. Biden or obama beats him badly. He lost by 3 million votes and won by small amount in handful of swing states against the most unpopular candidate ever.


But the swing states are what counted.

Look at the huge slant, for say, California. Do you really want the majority of Californian's representing?

i live in southern cal and I can guarantee you wouldn't. I love where I live but I can drive 20 minutes in any direction and see the biggest bunch of waste you'd ever want to see. These people make up a huge part of your 3 million votes.
 

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But the swing states are what counted.

Look at the huge slant, for say, California. Do you really want the majority of Californian's representing?

i live in southern cal and I can guarantee you wouldn't. I love where I live but I can drive 20 minutes in any direction and see the biggest bunch of waste you'd ever want to see. These people make up a huge part of your 3 million votes.

Yeah but look at it now. The election is decided by about 5-6 states. So it's not as good system this way either. It's pretty much the only thing that is not decided by overall votes.
 

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Yeah but look at it now. The election is decided by about 5-6 states. So it's not as good system this way either. It's pretty much the only thing that is not decided by overall votes.

Dont you see how that is a good thing, currently?


Most of So Cal is represented by 1st generation 'Americans', welfare/ unemployment types, looking to manipulate the system.

Dont get me wrong as i know some 'white trash' doing the same so no racist card is applicable.

These votes are non representTive of ' hard work, being your own man, support you really family, etc.

legal or not, these particular votes are detrimental
 

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Dont you see how that is a good thing, currently?


Most of So Cal is represented by 1st generation 'Americans', welfare/ unemployment types, looking to manipulate the system.

Dont get me wrong as i know some 'white trash' doing the same so no racist card is applicable.

These votes are non representTive of ' hard work, being your own man, support you really family, etc.

legal or not, these particular votes are detrimental

I think both systems are flawed. Electoral and popular. In states that are always red or blue.....lots stay home because they think their vote doesn't count
 

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I think both systems are flawed. Electoral and popular. In states that are always red or blue.....lots stay home because they think their vote doesn't count

True statement. In my state, a non dem vote means nothing.

I was just illustrating the type of vote most of so cal is. Non American garbage.

Anyhow, thank you for the conversation. Your points were noted and I appreciate the civil conversation.

Im off to finish a few more beers at the local bar and cheer for Memphis to clobber the blazer's.

take care.
 

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True statement. In my state, a non dem vote means nothing.

I was just illustrating the type of vote most of so cal is. Non American garbage.

Anyhow, thank you for the conversation. Your points were noted and I appreciate the civil conversation.

Im off to finish a few more beers at the local bar and cheer for Memphis to clobber the blazer's.

take care.

I understand your points.....very valid stuff. Thanks bud. Take care
 

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We have a forum for politics use it if you can't shut the fuck up

Maybe you should tell all the trump guys to stop making political threads up here. If you don't have the guts to do that.....shut the fuck up.
 

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Hold on Zit. We might have to deal with Mustachelle Obama at some point. I hope not.
 

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