TATERS NBA FADE SYSTEM

[tatehill2000]

Guys,,, heres the system,,,
Every team that goes on a 3 game road trip or MORE,,, WE FADE,,,, in this we will FADE them DOUBLEING UP EACH BET APON A LOSS until we catch 1 win,,, at that point we stop betting them,, take our unit and move on,,

as of now I am at +590.00

tonights FADES are,,
Sacramento FADE (Take Minnesota -3.5 100)

and ATL FADE..... there next game 200

good luck to all

 

[kayaman]

hey tate, long time since I've been in here. I'm curious to see how this works out. Let me see if I get this straight. This is Sac first road game for this road trip, so I lay down 1 unit. Is this a ML play or ATS?

Then, assuming MIN covers, I would fade SAC on their next road game. Does it matter if they're favored or not? Upon doing this I double down, right. Then I continue this until Sac covers and stop, taking whatever I should win.

Did I get it? Because if I remember correctly ATL covered last night. I'm not really sure how that works out.

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

When does the doubling stop? 8, 16? Last year Spurs won 8 straight on road. Somewhat confusing as you must be talking spreads, not money lines, and what if the team is a road fav on a double, and they do not cover, still double? Wow, I see a huge minus sign on this after a healthy juicing the streak will cause a large negative figure. Make sure you sign with %losses back. O F

 

[tatehill2000]

Kaya,,, Frog,,,

the questions are great,,, First,,, ATL did cover last night so tomorrow when they Play Miami we take Miami and the points for 200,,, because they Covered,,, I will bet against them tomorrow when they play next,,,

You bet with the Spread,,,tonight Sac is going on a 3 game road trip starting with Minni,,, so we are takeing Minni and the points for a Bone,,, If Sac covers,,, then we take whoever they play Next for 200,,,

Guys Here is ONE of the Keys to this system,,, YOu MUST GO TO A 5 DEEP PROGRESSION,,,, so on 1 game you will have to lay 1,600.00,,, this is the Key to this system,,, and this is whats hard,,, Laying that 1600 to win a Hund,,,
but its the 5th game on a road trip that is the Pivotal one,,,, this is the one Most ALL teams will crumble!!!

good luck,,,
tater

 

[gracielou]

I THOUGHT YOU WERE NOT GOING TO TAKE FIRST PLACE TEAMS, OR TAKE THREE GAME ROAD TRIPS, ONLY FOUR OR MORE.

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

No, you are down because Hawks covered. You will not take the points and Miami, as Heat will be favored. You will lay 220, not 200. And you are down 110, not 100. Here is a scenario: Hawks cover again tomorrow, or even win, now you are stuck -330. You need to lay big with Rockets, maybe 10, for 440. Oops, Rockets do not cover large number. You are stuck 770. and road trip just ended. Kings same thing reversed. They lose tonight, but cover. Now what you double on Bulls +6? They get blasted because the Kings lost, but now you keep doubling, even if Kings win? Road trip ends, you are again caught doubling when opportunity or road trip ends. Then you will lose that 16, but it is actually 1760. It is not maybe, but when. This is not even a matingale, because your road trip ends. This is a sure loser. I would bet on it. O F

 

[MrTanaka]

From 2002-03. Here's the 3-0 or more ATS results on 3+ road trips.

Knicks 1/6 -1/10 3-0, -700
Nets 5/9 - 5/20 4-0, -1500
Nets 1/3-1/6, 3-0, -700
Sixers 2/16-2/21 3-0, -700
Cavs 12/30-1/4 3-0, -700
Rockets 11/22-11/29 4-0, -1500
Grizzlies 3/8-3/11 3-0, -700
Spurs 1/5-1/9, 3-0, -700
Spurs 3/9-3/12 3-0 -700
Spurs 4/2-4/6 3-0 -700
Spurs 6/8-6/13 3-0 -700 *finals
Jazz 12/20-12/23 3-0 -700
Warriors 2/11-2/18 3-0 -700
Blazers 12/8-12/11 3-0 -700
Blazers 2/2-2.5 3-0 -700

So you would have lost $12,100 martingaling $100 to start. So even forgetting about juice you needed to find 121 winning instances just to break even for that season.

 

[SSI]

tate, these guys are absolutely correct, this system will kill you quick.. the hawks can cover 3 or 4 times in a row and its going to wipe out about 7 other $100 winners.. No way would i even think about this..

 

[~Falco~]

Wow. Learned a lot from this post. Mr Tanaka knows his stuff.

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

Thank You for the supporting numbers honorable Mr. Tanaka. Like I said, the juice would eat you up, and the streaks would bury you. Be advised, this was not to make anyone look bad, but to prevent people from getting crushed. Educational thread, and it cost you no losses. O F

 

[tatehill2000]

Hey,,, FRog,,,and Mr. Tanaka,,, thank you both sooo much,,, I didnt know the stats,,,, as I said in the Beginning thread,,this isnt my theory,, it is anothers on another board,,, I know we have lost the Vig,,, I was only trying to make it simple by calculating it to an even number each time,,, Please take notice that at the beginning of this thread I did account for the Vig in my earnings so far,,,

why did I go ahead to take Minni,,, because they are Hot ,,,, Sac is great,,, but Minni is sooo hot,,, who knows,,, will I FADE a TEAM that is on a (3!!) game road trip that is in First place?? well,,, Sacramento adn Indiana are the Division leaders,,, If Sac wasent going against Minni,,, Hell no wouldnt I Fade them,,,
we will soon see If Im a genius,, or a schmuck,, haha,,,

Hey Guys,,, Just as Leaf Fan Said the other day,,, we are all here to try to find succcessful angles,,, and I think weve got a shot at something here,,, Lets see what happens,,,

I am Up so far,,,, I will continue to discuss and make plays accordingly,,, If anyone has suggestions,, or TWEEKS,,, PLEASE PLEASE speak up,, lets try to streamline it,,,
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what if we take the division leaders to win 1 game (instead of FADE)on a 3 game road trip????

do you have those numbers Mr Tanaka??? How many teams Lost all 3 of a 3 game road trip???

all the best guys,,,
Tater

 

[SSI]

what will kill you is when you fade teams like the hawks and they beat the spread 4 or 5 times in a row and your doubling down each time.. there will come a time when a streak like this will wipe out all the winners that you acquired $100 at a time.. your smart enough to see this tate.. i like angles as much as the next guy but not with martingale, it is a disaster waiting to happen for 95% of the guys on this board.. only a gigantic bankroll could live through the losing streaks..

 

[tatehill2000]

Hey,,, SSI,,,
I know you and I respect your capping skills,,, this is possible,,, If I lose on a 5th time progressive play I will of lost 34 Units,,, UGH,,, I hate the thought of that,,, Lets see where it goes,,,

Its all about giving things a try,,, If we never lay our Nuts on the Block,, we will never know,,,

so to all I DO NOT!! DO NOT ENDORSE THIS METHOD!!! DO SO AT YORU OWN RISK!!!!!

SSI AND FROG,,,, AND THE OTHERS ARE CORRECT!!!! IT IS VERY RISKY!!!!

LIVE VICARIOUS THROUGH ME,,,
all the best,,
tater

 

[MrTanaka]

Well it's hard to say about division leaders last season but let's look at the Mavericks record ATS. I'll only list their 3+ road trips.
so if you martingaled Dallas until they WON the method would look like this (not counting juice):
L -100
W +200
W

W +100
L
L

L -100
L -200
L -400
L -800

L -100
L -200
L -400

W +100
L
L

L -100
L -200
W +400

W +100
L
L
W

L -100
L -200
L -400

That's -2400 if you martingaled the Mavs until they won on road trips.

 

[MrTanaka]

I don't mean any disrespect Tate. You really seem to know your stuff with NBA totals. But I just don't think there's any way around just handicapping the games.

 

[tatehill2000]

Tanaka,,,
no disrespect taken Bro,, AT ALL!!! I am doing this just to satisfy a theory,,, and the fact you have those stats handy is Great,,,,
again,,, I think the 3 game road trip is a Key in this,,,

thank you for the Props to my capping skills,,, I LOVE the NBA,,,, UGH,,, I want Only to try to OPEN peoples Minds,,, that is the ONLY way we can Learn,,,,
I DO NOT Plan on Playing this thing Straghit,,,
for example,,

Lets say Indi is going on a 3 game road trip and they are Playing Lakes, Sac, and Clips, rediculous scenario,,, hahah,, thats the point,, I WILL FADE INDI in this situation,,,

DALLAS goes on a 3 game road trip,, ATL, MIAMI, WASH,,, I WILL NOT!!! FADE DALLAS,,

Lets try to Strategize,,,, and be smart,,,
allt he best guys,,,
tater

TANAKA,,, I REALLY appreciate you,,, stay with me here,,,,

 

[SSI]

tate, all you have to do is back test it.. simple as that.. its not going to miracously change and start working.. do the research on it and see without laying 34 units down to win 1 unit, thats silly..

 

[tatehill2000]

SSI
the average over 7 years is +25 Units at the end of EACH season FADEING EVERY teams 3 game road trip,,,,
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AS OF TONIGHT another Win,,,
+690
tomorrow I (FADE ATL) and Play Miami for 200
and FADE the NUGS takeing ORL for 100

good lcuk guys,
tater

 

[SSI]

tate, good luck with this, i too look for angles all the time and its nice to dream that we find that elusive uncovered one that bangs 70% winners night in and night out. I will check your thread and hope for the best for you, be interesting for you if mia covers the spread over hawks..

 

[RobFunk]

".....so if you martingaled Dallas until they WON the method would look like this ......"

tanaka, the system is to go against dallas (the road team) and not take them.

and also tanaka is the last name of the music composer "hip tanaka" who worked for nintendo and composed all of the music for the original NES for many of their games such as kid icaris, metroid, zelda and super mario brothers.