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DickyW:

Truth be told...

Dalton made the decision 4 years ago NEVER to kick out a player. His philosophy is to limit sharps till they can't hurt you; use their opinion to make your lines stronger; and earn from their information.

Maybe this is why Dalton is considered not to be a dummy and has historically held 7.0%+ year after year.

Remember, we don't force people to play with us. They choose us. Our job is to manage risk to earn the highest possible amount off of the action we get. And, to pay the winners - FAST!

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Not that I much trusted Shrink's word before, but I think this statement might make me lose what little remaining resoect I had. IN reference to V-Wager, Shrink said:

"The first sign of trouble came when they were not able to pay out an advertising debt."

It seems that he's talking about himself (or the RX) and does he really believe they are not ABLE to pay or is it that there is a disagreement over whether they are liable and if so, for how much. I find it hard to believe that they are not ABLE to pay whatever the "debt" may be and I find it harder to believe that Shrink really believes that they are not able to pay. Maybe Shrink will come in here and say he used the wrong word with "able", but if you're going to write an article like this, then you ought to choose your words caefully.

Just my $0.02 at this point.
 

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Bigbet:

RE: Bridges on fire...

How about betonsports, bluegrass, sportbet, betmaker (on/off), MANY OTHERS etc.

That is why I made the statement...Dalton has supported TheRX.com for almost a FULL five years. And, to see Ken (shrink) come off this way is unbelievable.

Ken should remember who his friends are. As a matter of fact, last year Dalton and Leo (linesmaker) spent a full day with Ken doing an interview with New York Times in Costa Rica (as a favor to Ken). Wow! How people forget.

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I would have confirmed the players claims with V-Wager before even mentioning it. As you know certain players have certain agendas. If the claims were true I would have posted it as a FACT.

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Thanks but know need to explain. Everyone including Fish knows that books do this with certain players time to time
 

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I'm glad V-Wager came in here to straighten things out

I won a free account through them (via an RX contest) and had absolutely no problem, even when I wanted to cash it out.

Even though that does not clear up any misunderstandings, I wanted to share my positive opinion of them in light of the current thread.
 

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Alicia,

Is it correct that Leo ( your linesmaker ) is no longer with your organization ?

Thanks.
 

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This Is just a case of a former advertiser that doesn't want to renew their contract thats all! They say they have over 200 RX customers, to me thats enough to advertise for but to them its not! Its their money to advertise anywhere they wish! If not advertising here causes one to bash them thats very UNPROFESSIONAL to say the least!
 

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So is this basically an issue because they are not renewing? Do they owe the RX money or not? If they don't, then the RX is in the wrong. If they do, then they should pay and move on if they feel that they didn't get the amount of business off of the site that they would have liked. JMHO.
 

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AGAIN, I CHALLENGE ANYBODY IN THIS FORUM THAT HAS SUPPORTED AND RECOMMENDED V-WAGER/MVPSPORTSBOOK MORE THAN I HAVE!!!

Dicky- Having said that, here are the EXACT facts as I know them of how they have been relayed to me........FAIR ENOUGH??

As you read these facts, I hope you respect me for ADMITTING to probably making a mistake on one of these issues.

FACTS....

Been with V-Wager like I said for 5+ years!!.........and love them..........reommeded them to MANY of my friends who now have accounts there. Dont know if they even offer referels, buy if they do, I never bothered.

I am a very small overall winner lifetime there......under $3,000 profit lifetime.

Had my limits cut on the NOVIG to $100 from $500 because recently they said that is all I was playing there........which was true for the last 2-3 months...........NO BIGGIE....I FULLY RESPECTED their decision and accepted it.

Now, in the last month, they have limited my ENTIRE play to $100 maximum which I quite frankly thought was uncalled for, but respected because it THEIR BUSINESS AND THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY LIKE.

Next, I hear from Shrink that they were having problems paying advertising here at the RX....or in someway were refusing.

Next (less than 48 hours ago), I recieve an email from a very WELL RESPECTED poster about a slow pay of $1750 and possibly another one and he suggested that if I have money there that maybe I too should be withdrawing..........and he also asked that I dont say anything in the forum because he didnt want to cause a rampage before he got his money. I agreed..........AND IN NO WAY AM I HIDING ANYTHING FROM POSTERS SO DONT GO THERE, because I wouldnt have known NOTHING without HIS email. I showed respect from him for coming forward. My mistake, ADMITTEDLY, was not getting an account number and asking V-Wager about this. That was an ommission on my part.

Now I am thinking to myself and trying to put pieces together.............

Slow advertisement pay
Slow pay to customer
Lowering of my limits and others
Current 20% bonus offer out of nowhere(didnt even mention that yet)

Putting all this together and I am thinking this is not right.

I mention this to THE SHRINK and he supports my position that things may be getting suspect at V-WAGER and he suggests that I withdraw my money as soon as possible.

A few hours later is when THE SHRINK started this thread.......as I was trying to contact the poster who was getting slow paid to see if he had been paid.

I AM SURE I HAVE LEFT OUT SOME DETAILS OF THE WHOLE SITUATION AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I will answer them.

I sincerely hope that V-wager is financially stable.
 

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I'm sure they owe the RX some coin but if its all bout Advertising I think their customers shouldn't worry if they are still being paid! Any NOPays or Slowpays will show up here I'm sure but for now they seem solid and just a company who chose to advertise elsewhere! VERY UNPROFESSIONAL not to stop their advertising at a certain point and say OK how much do we owe and I'll cut a check but I think there is something going on with the Advertising department at V-Wager!
 

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Tow:

Yes, it is true. Leo and his lovely wife and child have moved on.

Leo is a great guy and we wish him only the best.

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Fish, I have the most respect for you here at this forum! Never heard any Negative out of your mouth! When you speak I LISTEN! Obviosly cutting your play being a small winner and the bonus all of a sudden RAISES RED FLAGS!!
 

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fish you think you are more important than you really are.

" I just stepped back into the office after an extended lunch meeting "

What really happened:

I just got back home to my computer in the den after I stopped for a beer at noon cuz Im an alcoholic.
 

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Fishhead:

Again, please - provide me a PIN, NAME or EMAIL and I can get the facts. I don't like the CLAIMS being thrown around. I can not defend against CLAIMS. If you will give me concrete, hardcore facts, I can give you everything you (and other forum members) need to make a decision.

My bet = you will never be able to provide this info, because it DOES NOT EXIST. We pay our winners - PERIOD!

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ThrillOfGambling:
fish you think you are more important than you really are.

" I just stepped back into the office after an extended lunch meeting "

What really happened:

I just got back home to my computer in the den after I stopped for a beer at noon cuz Im an alcoholic.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

IF YOU NEED TO KNOW THE EXACT TRUTH, I ACTUALLY HAD LUNCH AT A SOUP AND SALAD BAR, STOPPED BY MY POST OFFICE TO GET MAIL, and STOPPED AT THE LIBRARY to pick up a book for my neighbors child, and returned.

Happy?
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DickyW:
Good post Fish.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you sir
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JimFiestSux:
I'm sure they owe the RX some coin but if its all bout Advertising I think their customers shouldn't worry if they are still being paid! Any NOPays or Slowpays will show up here I'm sure but for now they seem solid and just a company who chose to advertise elsewhere! VERY UNPROFESSIONAL not to stop their advertising at a certain point and say OK how much do we owe and I'll cut a check but I think there is something going on with the Advertising department at V-Wager!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

EXACTLY. As a customer I reacted since IT IS NOT TRUE! On the advertising I have no idea. Anyway it should not be placed as having problems for payouts. Sounds like B***kmail to me involving the clients.
 

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I asked for a neteller payout for $2500 and got it in about an hour today.

Funny thing is they told me payouts was busy, call back in 10 minutes (first time they ever told me that.)

Probably busy due to a small run on the bank thanks to these "rumours"
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