Should a bet stand after the game started and was in the bottom of the 1st inning?

[chips]

This thread is comical! There are 2 things that need to happen for a bet to be made, a player needs to want to make a wager and a bookmaker needs to accept that wager, bith happened here. This is not a past post where the book had no idea what was going on, it was a Playoff Baseball game, were they are going to write 10 times more than the average baseball game, the book did the right thing accomodating all thier customers they are trying to get down at post, EVERY BOOK HAD THIS GAME ON THEIR TV SETS!!! The book knew there was no advantage to them or the player and accepted the bet. Here is all you need to know about this thread:

Cuban, once you turned on the TV and saw the game had already started, WHY DIDNT YOU PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL THEM IMMEDIATELY TO SEE IF THE BET WOULD STAND????? I can answer that for you, you figured if you won the game you would be paid and if you lost the game you would cry to the Forums, you were taking a shot and the bet lost, its over with, MOVE ON!

For those of you that dont know, I have run offshore books and here is what happens on an NFL Sunday at 1.01 pm est. I have 10 TV's with every single games kickoff and my phones are still ringing off the hook, one by one the clerk will ask me if a certain game is still good, I will look at the TV and give out all bets until a team crosses the 50 yrd line, they all wont come down at the same time, if a kick is returned for a TD or there is a early turnover the game is down, the others I will continue to write. A bookmaker works on volume and I want to write as much action as possible AS LONG AS NOBODY HAS THE EDGE! I have written 20 dime bets at the 10.50 mark of the 1st Q(not totals obviously).

 

[Chester]

Chips,
You are 1000% correct here...

"I can answer that for you, you figured if you won the game you would be paid and if you lost the game you would cry to the Forums, you were taking a shot and the bet lost, its over with, MOVE ON!"

 

[theswami]

This post represents the main problem with bookmaking, off and on shore.....BOOKMAKERS AND PLAYERS LOVE TO TAKE SHOTS.

What a scummy bunch of people (Not everyone but many).

Whether this was a shot by CG or the book we will NEVER know. My feeling is that CG wanted the bet and when he realized that the game started he did nothing to ensure that the wager was cancelled.

THEREFORE, IT IS CLEAR THAT HE WOULD NOT BE HERE IF HE WON. I SAY NO FVCKING CHANCE THAT HE CALLS THE BOOK AND SAYS "HEY, THE GAME STARTED WHEN I MADE THE WAGER SO CANCEL IT EVEN THOUGH I WON." HIS ASSUMPTION WOULD BE THAT THEY LEFT THE GAME UP SINCE IT HAD JUST STARTED AND THEY WANTED TO ACCOMODATE THE PLAYERS.

CG- Intentional (the day of the wager) or unintentional (after the wager lost and you realized it wasn't cancelled), I think you are taking a shot at the book. You wanted the bet and you are here only b/c it lost.

After reading this stuff day after day and responding to it on occasion, I've started to realize that I'm glad I couldn't make it to Vegas since I was out of the country. I'm not sure I would want to associate with too many of the posters on this site. This forum is filled with angle shooters.

It would be great to hear CG step up and say that he wouldn't be here if the bet won. Instead he's pointing to the rules to make a case (which he has done). You wouldn't get paid though if I ran the book.

 

This is going to be my last post in this thread about this. Swami Im not so sure now that if the bet had won I would have been paid maybe/maybe not. Chester as a guy on the other side of the counter im sure your saying this because it has happened to you where people have taken a shot at you. Let me get one thing straight. I took no shot at the book by posting this on this forum period. I took no shot by thinking that I had no bet since the game started. The way you learn the way things work is by going through it yourself. I just did. Now I know if this should ever occur again with any book I will call to make sure that the bet was on for sure like comical chips says. To me if I had known that the marlins already had 3 outs I would not have made this bet. Why cant anyone understand this. This to me is an advantage to the book as I would have 24 outs left to their 27. Hell I want to make a bet at the begining of the game anyways not when it already started. If the game started there will be other games on the board to play on. I thought if any bet is put in after the game had started it would be a no play no matter what. If I had won the bet I did not expect for this book to pay my wager as it was put in late. My mistake for going by the rules. The reason I came here was to see what views both sides had on this issue. Some people think it should have been a bet some dont. We all dont think alike. Thats why colors were made. Some may like blue some may like green. The final say was with the book anyways who has control over the money not me or you. We know many times that books cancel wagers after the game for past posting and even if you won the bet they dont pay it. Thats the way it should be. If its late its late no go. I bet this money. I thought I had no bet since the game had started. I didnt call to verify right away to see if I did. They kept the money. Theres many books out there that would come to some sort of agreement on this as this could be looked at both ways. Halifax I did not contradict myself as I had a wager that was canceled but he said it was a push so it was the same thing. Next time I wont use the internet Ill just pick up the phone and know for sure I have action on the game regardless.
Go marlins go.

 

[Buzzsaw]

The bet should stand. As soon as you saw the game in the bottom of the first did you call to confirm the bet was valid? NO. And you know why you didn't? Because if it lost you felt you might have a case to get it cancelled.

 

[-Slim-]

Um, Cuban, just for the record, I dont work for the book you bet at it, at least I dont think so. I was just explaining the situation from a bookmakers point of view. We try to accomodate if possible those that for x reason called 2 secs after the game begun. As long as certain conditions are met (youre not a shot taker, no one on base, etc etc, we will probably give you the bet) just to be nice.

Just wanted to make this clear before you call up your book and demand to speak to me

 

[TheGeneral+]

When the ball is tossed, the kick is in the air, and the first pitch is thrown, the game should be off, especially if the rules state this.

 

[Tekari]

I am not sure if this has been addressed above but what did the book say when you emailed them and said according to your rules this bet should be canceled?

I am curious what the book had to say about this. And also you should ask if my bet had won, would I have gotten paid since I am breaking rule # whatever

 

[PIPE]

CubanGambler the book got you. They had a win win situation no matter the outcome of this game. I wonder what shrinks opinion is on this matter. General can you try to help this player out in anyway by talking to the book?

 

[chips]

Pipe, yopu should hit that Pipe with statements like that, The book was in a win-win situation?????? How do you Figure???? The bet was made and accepted, player took a shot and lost, the book will laugh at you for trying to get some sort of settlement. All the player had to do was call the book once he saw the game has started but he didnt, he is a shot taker and comes crying to the Forum. The phone call would have taken 2 mins to clear up the situation, this is a guy who wasnt looking to clear it up but purposely try to leave it in a gray area till the outcome was known.

 

[PIPE]

Chips you know that if the bet had won the book would of not paid the bet. You say the player took a shot. Well I say the book took a shot.
We agree to disagree. I guess you have not read all of cgs replys. He didnt know. Oh just to let you know im hitting the pipe right now as I type.

 

[chips]

Hope you got the good shit

Anyway, CG turned on his TV and saw the game in the bottom of the 1st and never called, this is open and shut.

 

[5teamparlay]

should a BOOK continue booking action on this cubs game?? In a rain delay game hasnt started, at times they go off the board.

 

[PIPE]

THATS IN RAIN DELAY TOTALY DIFF 5TEAM. NOBODY ON THIS WEBSITE WENT TO BAT FOR THIS KID. GENERAL CANT YOU HELP THIS KID OUT ON THIS BET? HE HAS BEEN CALLING ME ALL DAY LONG. HE EVEN SAID HE CALLED THE SHRINK WHICH HASNT RETURNED HIS CALL BECAUSE HE WAS IN A MEETING. THAT SOUNDS SO FAMILIAR TO SOME BOOKIES I KNOW.

BRB MY BOWL IS BURNING.

 

[Halifax]

Cuban better not open an account at Cascade - apparently, they too honour the bets that they take.