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— Bloggers on Wednesday, March 1st, 2017 in a headline
Reports falsely accuse Democrats of refusing to stand for Gold Star widow
By Joshua Gillin on Wednesday, March 1st, 2017 at 5:41 p.m.
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<figcaption class="art-block__caption" style="margin: 1em 0px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: italic; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; line-height: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-size: 0.845em; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(126, 126, 126);">Carryn Owens, the widow of slain Navy SEAL Ryan Owens, received an emotional standing ovation during Trump's speech to Congress on Tuesday.</figcaption></figure></header>Conservative blogs accused Democrats of sitting through an ovation for the widow a slain Navy SEAL during President Donald Trump’s first address to Congress, but video shows a different story.
In his speech, Trump thanked Carryn Owens, who was married to William "Ryan" Owens, the SEAL killed in a Jan. 29, 2017, raid in Yemen. The mention drew the crowd to their feet for extended applause, lasting more than two minutes. But some outlets focused on what they saw as disrespect from Democrats.
"Horrible! Top Democrats refuse to stand for Gold Star widow," read the headline on a March 1, 2017, post on 100PercentFedUp.com.
A photo showed U.S. Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida, the former chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, and Keith Ellison of Minnesota, the current deputy chairman of the DNC, seated together. (Snopes determined the image was taken more than a half an hour prior to the ovation.)
Another post from DailyWire.com read, "Awful: Top Democrats refuse to stand, clap for Navy SEAL widow honored by Trump." That post originally showed the same photo of Wasserman Schultz and Ellison but was later changed after we inquired about it. The post also excoriated House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont by name. The post did say that "Democrats initially stood for the widow," but the headline suggests otherwise.
TheBlaze.com said the incident was "truly disgusting." Other posts focused onTwitter outrage over the incident. State GOP organizations piled on.
Even Florida Sen. Marco Rubio mentioned the incident the morning after the speech on Fox & Friends.
"I turned back around my shoulder and I see half the room, most of them sitting down, I was just shocked by that," Rubio said. "I noticed as soon as the speech was done they got up and walked out."
The show alluded to the incident with a chyron that read, "Dems sat during POTUS tribute to SEAL’s widow."
Democrats weren’t too thrilled with Trump’s speech, to be sure. But upon reviewing recordings of the speech, there’s ample evidence that Democrats did stand — just not as long as their Republican counterparts. And that’s a fairly typical thing for the opposition party to do, an expert told us.
Tale of the tape
Ryan Owens was the first American combatant killed during the Trump administration. Critics have questioned whether the raid in which he was killed should have been approved, and Owens’ father refused to meet with Trump. More recently, Trump been criticized for appearing to assign the blame to the military.
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Here’s a breakdown of what happens in the video.
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This video from NBC shows some different angles, including a wide, panning shot showing Democrats seated while Republicans cheer.
That image was used on some blogs to "prove" Democrats didn’t stand, but it’s actually about 2 minutes and 45 seconds into the NBC video.
Breaches of etiquette do happen during speeches before Congress — U.S. Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., shouted "You lie!" during a 2009 speech by President Barack Obama.
"Republicans often sat stone-faced during Obama's State of the Union addresses. Democrats laughed derisively when Reagan promised to balance the budget," said Craig Smith, a former speechwriter for Gerald Ford and George H.W. Bush and director emeritus of the Center for First Amendment Studies at California State University, Long Beach.
Smith said Trump’s tribute to the Navy SEAL was a "moment unmatched since Reagan paid tribute to Lenny Skutnick, who actually was in the gallery. And that began the tradition."
Skutnik was a former Congressional Budget Office employee who helped rescue a plane crash survivor from the Potomac River in January 1982. Reagan recognized him days later in his State of the Union speech, which is considered the first time the practice of noting an ordinary citizen became routine.
Our ruling
Bloggers said, "Top Democrats refuse to stand for Gold Star widow."
That makes it sound as if the blue side of the aisle stubbornly stayed seated while the GOP cheered for the widow of a Navy SEAL killed in a raid in Yemen. A more accurate headline would be, "Top Democrats don’t stand as long as Republicans for Gold Star widow." A video review shows Democrats including Sanders, Pelosi, Wasserman Schultz and Ellison stood. But most sat down while Republicans renewed their applause.
To say they outright refused to stand up is inaccurate. We rate these headlines False.
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"Top Democrats refuse to stand for Gold Star widow."
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— Bloggers on Wednesday, March 1st, 2017 in a headline
Reports falsely accuse Democrats of refusing to stand for Gold Star widow
By Joshua Gillin on Wednesday, March 1st, 2017 at 5:41 p.m.
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<figcaption class="art-block__caption" style="margin: 1em 0px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: italic; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; line-height: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-size: 0.845em; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(126, 126, 126);">Carryn Owens, the widow of slain Navy SEAL Ryan Owens, received an emotional standing ovation during Trump's speech to Congress on Tuesday.</figcaption></figure></header>Conservative blogs accused Democrats of sitting through an ovation for the widow a slain Navy SEAL during President Donald Trump’s first address to Congress, but video shows a different story.
In his speech, Trump thanked Carryn Owens, who was married to William "Ryan" Owens, the SEAL killed in a Jan. 29, 2017, raid in Yemen. The mention drew the crowd to their feet for extended applause, lasting more than two minutes. But some outlets focused on what they saw as disrespect from Democrats.
"Horrible! Top Democrats refuse to stand for Gold Star widow," read the headline on a March 1, 2017, post on 100PercentFedUp.com.
A photo showed U.S. Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida, the former chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, and Keith Ellison of Minnesota, the current deputy chairman of the DNC, seated together. (Snopes determined the image was taken more than a half an hour prior to the ovation.)
Another post from DailyWire.com read, "Awful: Top Democrats refuse to stand, clap for Navy SEAL widow honored by Trump." That post originally showed the same photo of Wasserman Schultz and Ellison but was later changed after we inquired about it. The post also excoriated House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont by name. The post did say that "Democrats initially stood for the widow," but the headline suggests otherwise.
TheBlaze.com said the incident was "truly disgusting." Other posts focused onTwitter outrage over the incident. State GOP organizations piled on.
Even Florida Sen. Marco Rubio mentioned the incident the morning after the speech on Fox & Friends.
"I turned back around my shoulder and I see half the room, most of them sitting down, I was just shocked by that," Rubio said. "I noticed as soon as the speech was done they got up and walked out."
The show alluded to the incident with a chyron that read, "Dems sat during POTUS tribute to SEAL’s widow."
Democrats weren’t too thrilled with Trump’s speech, to be sure. But upon reviewing recordings of the speech, there’s ample evidence that Democrats did stand — just not as long as their Republican counterparts. And that’s a fairly typical thing for the opposition party to do, an expert told us.
Tale of the tape
Ryan Owens was the first American combatant killed during the Trump administration. Critics have questioned whether the raid in which he was killed should have been approved, and Owens’ father refused to meet with Trump. More recently, Trump been criticized for appearing to assign the blame to the military.
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Here’s a breakdown of what happens in the video.
| Video time stamp (approx.) | What’s happening | The scene |
| 0:30 | Trump says, "We are blessed to be joined tonight by Carryn Owens, the widow of U.S. Navy special operator, Senior Chief William "Ryan" Owens. Ryan died as he lived: a warrior, and a hero — battling against terrorism and securing our nation." Both sides of the aisle stand to acknowledge Owens. In the lower lefthand corner of the video you can see Ellison and Wasserman Schultz standing. Sanders is seen standing a few rows closer to the front. |
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| 0:45 | Republicans and Democrats sit down and Trump continues. |
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| 1:20 | Trump says, "I just spoke to our great Gen. Mattis, just now, who reconfirmed that, and I quote, ‘Ryan was a part of a highly successful raid that generated large amounts of vital intelligence that will lead to many more victories in the future against our enemy.’ Ryan’s legacy is etched into eternity." People in the chamber rise and applaud. The video shows Carryn Owens in the gallery. |
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| 1:50 | The camera pans away to show Democrats and Republicans both standing. Some Democrats begin to take their seats. We can see Pelosi standing, but it appears Wasserman Schultz, Ellison and Sanders are seated. |
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| 2:00 | A wide shot shows that many Democrats have sat down. Republicans remain standing. |
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| 2:20 | Most Democrats are seated, but it appears some are still clapping, and some are standing. |
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| 2:55 | Applause ends and entire chamber sits down. |
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This video from NBC shows some different angles, including a wide, panning shot showing Democrats seated while Republicans cheer.
That image was used on some blogs to "prove" Democrats didn’t stand, but it’s actually about 2 minutes and 45 seconds into the NBC video.
Breaches of etiquette do happen during speeches before Congress — U.S. Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., shouted "You lie!" during a 2009 speech by President Barack Obama.
"Republicans often sat stone-faced during Obama's State of the Union addresses. Democrats laughed derisively when Reagan promised to balance the budget," said Craig Smith, a former speechwriter for Gerald Ford and George H.W. Bush and director emeritus of the Center for First Amendment Studies at California State University, Long Beach.
Smith said Trump’s tribute to the Navy SEAL was a "moment unmatched since Reagan paid tribute to Lenny Skutnick, who actually was in the gallery. And that began the tradition."
Skutnik was a former Congressional Budget Office employee who helped rescue a plane crash survivor from the Potomac River in January 1982. Reagan recognized him days later in his State of the Union speech, which is considered the first time the practice of noting an ordinary citizen became routine.
Our ruling
Bloggers said, "Top Democrats refuse to stand for Gold Star widow."
That makes it sound as if the blue side of the aisle stubbornly stayed seated while the GOP cheered for the widow of a Navy SEAL killed in a raid in Yemen. A more accurate headline would be, "Top Democrats don’t stand as long as Republicans for Gold Star widow." A video review shows Democrats including Sanders, Pelosi, Wasserman Schultz and Ellison stood. But most sat down while Republicans renewed their applause.
To say they outright refused to stand up is inaccurate. We rate these headlines False.
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"Top Democrats refuse to stand for Gold Star widow."
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ROFL. Politifact. What a joke site that is.
http://www.politifactbias.com/
ROFL. Politifact. What a joke site that is.
http://www.politifactbias.com/
Sane people saw those scum libtard Democrats sitting on their asses with scowls on their face all night long.
We even had a scum Democrat libtard get fired for spewing out nasty twitters about the Navy seal widow.
Sane people saw exactly what was going on, and some stupid biased website cut/paste from you doesn't prove a thing, other
than that you are a lying farrrrr left fringe irrelevant crusty old man.
I'm so glad that people like you have pushed the Demoscum so far left, that sane people will continue to take political power from
the scum far left.
So, in that regards, I thank you for your stupidity.
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[FONT="][FONT="]The optics could not have been starker – President Donald Trump stood before America with an overarching message of unity. Meanwhile, Democrats sat firmly planted in their chamber chairs, still seething from their electoral pummeling.
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As Trump delivered promises of soaring optimism, Democrats almost appeared disappointed – for their aims of regaining electoral control sunk as hopes for America’s future lifted.
Trump began by acknowledging that while “we might be a nation divided in policy… we are a nation that stands united in condemning hatred.” He ended with a similar message of American unity: “(W)e are one people with one destiny. We all bleed the same blood. We all salute the same American flag. And we all are made by the same God.”
America heard and received Trump’s proposal of unity, with a full 78 percent of viewers polled by CNN seeing it as very or somewhat positive.
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As Trump delivered promises of soaring optimism, Democrats almost appeared disappointed – for their aims of regaining electoral control sunk as hopes for America’s future lifted.
Trump began by acknowledging that while “we might be a nation divided in policy… we are a nation that stands united in condemning hatred.” He ended with a similar message of American unity: “(W)e are one people with one destiny. We all bleed the same blood. We all salute the same American flag. And we all are made by the same God.”
America heard and received Trump’s proposal of unity, with a full 78 percent of viewers polled by CNN seeing it as very or somewhat positive.
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This isn't about the merit of politifact, lets not pretend that whatever articles get posted done come from writers with their own slant, that's just the state of media today but we got eyes and facts are facts, no slant should affect the facts...the report was dems didn't stand...they did... can we agree to that, you can see it and whatever you think of them and I am no fan of much of their politics but can we agree that they did the right thing and this blow up was just an attempt to smear. There are real enough reasons to attack them that making them up should not be tolerated by either side. Util we jointly attack the bullshit and tell these fake news makers that it is not accepted we will keep getting it shoved down our throat.
