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[PatsFan1283]

Do you play a few big ones or a lot of little ones?

How much lineup variance do you have ?

Do you have a core of players in every lineup?

Do you play big pools, small pools, heads up, or all 3?

1. I scale out from $5 to 50 in the 50/50's usually, can't post below that because I've reached certain threshold on both sites. If I could I would though, the lower the stakes the better the ROI for the most part. I post h2h much higher but tough to get too many taken at higher stakes.

2. The way I hedge against variance is by playing multiple slates. 1pm only, main slate, thursday to monday slate, sunday/monday slate on both sites. So you get naturally hedging this way. But I do think you need the best optimal lineup every slate, or atleast to strive for that. Hedging was fine back in '14-16 when the ROI was bigger and you could give up some EV to reduce variance, but I think the games are too competitive to do that now. Although a lot of reg players still do it.

3. Yeah, obviously some guys are just smash value and are in every lineup. Gio Bernard this week vs Atlanta, their defense just funnels receptions to RB's all game and he is a pretty good receiver. There are guys you will have 100% exposure to. Just hope they don't twist an ankle first quarter.

4. I dabble in GPP's but I mostly play cash games/scale out action. I hate to say "You can't beat this" because obviously people do it but at 18% rake and tons of regs putting in 150 lineups nowadays, I do think the edge is small in NFL large scale GPP's. I just stay more engaged this way, I can't really be heavy GPP and lose 3-4 weeks in a row waiting for a big score. Some people do it and they do it really well, but I'd rather just grind.

 

[slapshot]

HC is the only poster I've ever made a ban bet with

Oh that’s right it was a lock play that lost with a year ban guarantee it would win

 

[Betallsports]

If you think my behavior on this site is in any way similar to him, we'll have to agree to disagree. I wouldn't even dignify that with a response.

You and I get along pretty well and I really don't see how I could start rattling off bad moves I think the RX has made and why the site has declined without offending you. But if you want, we can do a full blown SWOT analysis of the site in this thread. But again, it'll be almost impossible for me to do so w/o offending you.

As far as RC goes...He's 1 of many from just 6 months ago that volume is way down......DNoonan, Jstack, MattyMatt, HC/Chop posts less until recently. That's off my head. It isnt just because of Welch, it's because of a lot of reasons. Again, I have 0 equity in this site but I've posted pretty regularly for years and I think I am half smart (as Ricky Williams once said), so if you wanna talk about every misstep we can. If you wanna analyze a business, we can. There is probably a lot you can tell me that I don't know but I'm not lying when I say traffic is down. The OS gets like 10 posts an hour these days, threads never get to 2 pages unless it is politics/arguing, etc

Well when you say things like Bad Decisions, I take it to Heart.
We had a Hands off owner who really didn't care about this place and Myself and Hache have worked our asses off ( even when we had Full time help )

The place was sold last year and Hopefully they will do Half of the things they said they will
But in the mean time for about a Year Both Hache and I have worked 80-100 hour weeks, and even worked the first 7 months without a Day off.
You might say, well how hard could it to run a forum ? Well it's a lot more than just posting a few things each day.

The problem that I have always had with Forums is you can never make Everyone happy. I had a fight with someone a few year back that said Mods shouldn't be posting, they should just do your Mod duties ...
then I had a argument where I Don't post enough.
One guy doesn't like this guy, that guy doesn't like this guy and on and on BS.

You name a few that don't post much, or don't post as much as they once did. I also get the argument that Long time posters who have stopped, maybe grew up, or grew tried of the BS that are not around anymore.
People come and go, people might not gamble anymore... Some have left because of jobs... Do you know how many requests we get to Delete their accounts because they have either New jobs or Married
and don't want their posts to still be up ? Plenty ... especially over the past 2-3 years

I even post Less ... and it's not because of the " BAD DECISIONS " at the RX

anyway I said my peace. I'm done fighting with any of you guys

 

[JustinCruise]

1. I scale out from $5 to 50 in the 50/50's usually, can't post below that because I've reached certain threshold on both sites. If I could I would though, the lower the stakes the better the ROI for the most part. I post h2h much higher but tough to get too many taken at higher stakes.

2. The way I hedge against variance is by playing multiple slates. 1pm only, main slate, thursday to monday slate, sunday/monday slate on both sites. So you get naturally hedging this way. But I do think you need the best optimal lineup every slate, or atleast to strive for that. Hedging was fine back in '14-16 when the ROI was bigger and you could give up some EV to reduce variance, but I think the games are too competitive to do that now. Although a lot of reg players still do it.

3. Yeah, obviously some guys are just smash value and are in every lineup. Gio Bernard this week vs Atlanta, their defense just funnels receptions to RB's all game and he is a pretty good receiver. There are guys you will have 100% exposure to. Just hope they don't twist an ankle first quarter.

4. I dabble in GPP's but I mostly play cash games/scale out action. I hate to say "You can't beat this" because obviously people do it but at 18% rake and tons of regs putting in 150 lineups nowadays, I do think the edge is small in NFL large scale GPP's. I just stay more engaged this way, I can't really be heavy GPP and lose 3-4 weeks in a row waiting for a big score. Some people do it and they do it really well, but I'd rather just grind.

Can you elaborate on the cost of the games? never played DFS How much are you posting up to win $65,000?

 

[HarryCaray]

Forgive me if this is a stupid question as I have never played DFS


But are you saying you won $65,000 playing games that cost 50 bucks?

dude

 

[PatsFan1283]

Forgive me if this is a stupid question as I have never played DFS


But are you saying you won $65,000 playing games that cost 50 bucks?

Avg buyin is around $30-50, yeah. You gotta realize this is scaled out over 4 different slates and hundreds of games that are head to heads, double ups, triple ups, 50/50s, 3 mans, 5 mans

It's similar to poker except in poker you can only sit at 1 time at a table, in DFS you can sit in a ton (and honestly, I think the sites should set a strict game limit so the top .001% of posters can't scale so easily, however, those players pay a ton in rake and drive liquidity and these sites are short-term focused because in DK's cse they want to IPO and cash out)

 

[JustinCruise]

Avg buyin is around $30-50, yeah. You gotta realize this is scaled out over 4 different slates and hundreds/thousands of games that are head to heads, double ups, triple ups, 50/50s, 3 mans, 5 mans

It's similar to poker except in poker you can only sit at 1 time at a table, in DFS you can sit in a ton (and honestly, I think the sites should set a strict game limit so the top .001% of posters can't scale so easily, however, those players pay a ton in rake and drive liquidity and these sites are short-term focused because in DK's cse they want to IPO and cash out)

On average how much do you have at risk per week?



And you're saying you are playing hundreds of different games per week? How in the world do you find the time for that unless it's your full time job?



Or are you basically choosing one lineup and inserting that same lineup into every single game?

 

[HarryCaray]

Move it to a different thread please

 

[CHOPTALK]

DFS would be right up your ally JC.
That way we only have to hear you bitch about Cooper one week instead of 16 weeks

 

[PatsFan1283]

On average how much do you have at risk per week?



And you're saying you are playing hundreds of different games per week? How in the world to find the time for that unless it's your full time job?

It takes 1 second to join games man. You click a button, you joined the game. And a lot to your first question.

Joining games is easy, winning them is the hard part.


edit: Saw your edit.....I answer that in the first post, yes. I am only playing 8 lineups a week and these lineups have significant overlap based on the 8 slates I play.

Some people play the 2 game slates (MNF/TNF or 4pm only) but I don't really do all that.

 

[CHOPTALK]

DFS should come out with weekly draft leagues .
Have a quick draft with 10 or 12 random players for a weekly team.

That would be interesting to me.

 

[PatsFan1283]

Well when you say things like Bad Decisions, I take it to Heart.
We had a Hands off owner who really didn't care about this place and Myself and Hache have worked our asses off ( even when we had Full time help )

The place was sold last year and Hopefully they will do Half of the things they said they will
But in the mean time for about a Year Both Hache and I have worked 80-100 hour weeks, and even worked the first 7 months without a Day off.
You might say, well how hard could it to run a forum ? Well it's a lot more than just posting a few things each day.

The problem that I have always had with Forums is you can never make Everyone happy. I had a fight with someone a few year back that said Mods shouldn't be posting, they should just do your Mod duties ...
then I had a argument where I Don't post enough.
One guy doesn't like this guy, that guy doesn't like this guy and on and on BS.

You name a few that don't post much, or don't post as much as they once did. I also get the argument that Long time posters who have stopped, maybe grew up, or grew tried of the BS that are not around anymore.
People come and go, people might not gamble anymore... Some have left because of jobs... Do you know how many requests we get to Delete their accounts because they have either New jobs or Married
and don't want their posts to still be up ? Plenty ... especially over the past 2-3 years

I even post Less ... and it's not because of the " BAD DECISIONS " at the RX

anyway I said my peace. I'm done fighting with any of you guys

I get all that. Why I said I don't feel like rattling off every decision I perceive as bad (letting OS do politics too much because it was a quick fix, letting Vitterd/few others run around, letting Welch be an asshole too much, etc etc) because I'm sure I wouldn't wanna deal w/ random loons either when there is no real appreciation for the effort it takes you.

But when someone like Welch is acting out of line, what do you think my go to is gonna be? Welch you gutted the forum. It's just easy and many posters agree w/ me that it has some truth to it. Who wants to be called an idiot because you say you can't believe Doug Marrone should kneel at halftime? I mean, I don't care I laugh at it. But most people just gonna go to 1 of the 2395922095 other places you can to talk sports online.

 

[PatsFan1283]

Move it to a different thread please

Isn't this kinda topic cooked? What else can we say?

 

[CHOPTALK]

So on a typical week you could have let’s say 50 teams in a week .
Just throwing a random number out there .

And someone like Bernard or Kamara would be on every lineup?

 

[PatsFan1283]

Nah, I have 7-8 cash game teams a week but yeah the best plays like Gio/Kamara this week would be in every lineup. Where did you get 50?

Conner week 1 vs Cle, every lineup.

 

[GoBlue34]

I was gone for probably 8 or 9 months of a 12 month ban bet and worked out an agreement to come back with HC who I made the bet with



But yea that's comparable to being gone for less than 24 hours of a 24 month ban bet and then trolling the person who won the bet on top of it

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=1005487

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=1004215

Which ban did you welch on again? There's been so many I can't keep track of them. You couldn't even be gone for 2 weeks loser and didn't hold up on any of the ban bets you have lost.

Such a weirdo but damn those 2 threads were funny. Chop you were on a roll

 

[Greenbacks]

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=1005487

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=1004215

Which ban did you welch on again? There's been so many I can't keep track of them. You couldn't even be gone for 2 weeks loser and didn't hold up on any of the ban bets you have lost.

Such a weirdo but damn those 2 threads were funny. Chop you were on a roll

Great post Blue.

Especially 1005487.

 

[MrsCruise]

Great post Blue.

Especially 1005487.

How is can you live with yourself? I mean, all these lives you have ruined!

my son was doing very well. We had hopes of him leaving the basement, having real life friends, possibly a date.

You have ave ruined all that.

 

[MrsCruise]

Patsfan, would it be possible to get a portrait of you?

My my son is raving about you. I want to surprise him with a poster of you. It would be nice to replace at least one of his Call of Duty posters with someone real.

Maybe be one of you standing in front of a DFS poster or something similar. It would mean the world to us as that mean old MEANbacks has him whimpering again.

 

[PatsFan1283]

Patsfan, would it be possible to get a portrait of you?

My my son is raving about you. I want to surprise him with a poster of you. It would be nice to replace at least one of his Call of Duty posters with someone real.

Maybe be one of you standing in front of a DFS poster or something similar. It would mean the world to us as that mean old MEANbacks has him whimpering again.

Absolutely.



How bout standing over a Khalil Mack poster like I just trucked him?

Stay down Khalil. If ya know what's good for ya.