Royal is the best book alive

RoyalSportsGroupMarketing · Jun 23, 2005

The support comment was intentionally made due to the amount of negativity we face here. Why schill when it just turns into this. Royal has saved a lot of gamers from other situations.

Ask the question...Who here (any poster) has not gotten paid???

Ask the question...Who here (anyposter) has been saved from other books closing?

Richard.

ClipJoint · Jun 23, 2005

Royal Sports Group Marketing said:
Clip,

All here is well thanks. I can tell you Clip, to your displeasure, we are not going anywhere. I am signing off at this time...let the bashing recommence.

Goodnight,

Richard

No displeasure here Richard...I never cheer for a book to go under with player funds. But that actually wasn't my question. I was hoping to get your opinion of your owner, Tej?

RoyalSportsGroupMarketing · Jun 23, 2005

My opinion is Royal is more profitable than ever in its history. Huge moves into both US and European Markets coming this year.

What is your opinion on Bodog, or BCN, or (Any) books owners?

Journeyman · Jun 23, 2005

Richard in all seriousness, can you not understand why Royal gets bashed? I hope everything you say is on the money, but we have seen enough of the slow pays , charging ridiculous fees sending funds back to the poster in Asia...i could go on and on....if Royal just paid its players when they asked, we could believe it...no doubt about it Royal has bailed out many players, and the contests have been great, why all the slow pays though?

And why would Royal pay to advertise at a dump like Offshore Gamblers Digest, they have 10 members who do nothing but attack and hate everyone else? Why associate with them?

vegasisstilldead · Jun 23, 2005

Journeyman said:
Richard in all seriousness, can you not understand why Royal gets bashed? I hope everything you say is on the money, but we have seen enough of the slow pays , charging ridiculous fees sending funds back to the poster in Asia...i could go on and on....if Royal just paid its players when they asked, we could believe it...no doubt about it Royal has bailed out many players, and the contests have been great, why all the slow pays though?

And why would Royal pay to advertise at a dump like Offshore Gamblers Digest, they have 10 members who do nothing but attack and hate everyone else? Why associate with them?

OGD!!! I forgot about that place....I think they have 4 members... Ak, compaqdork, uncle and the infamous dell dude..The four horseman:lolBIG:

RoyalSportsGroupMarketing · Jun 23, 2005

Journeyman,

Probably the same reason why Pinnacle is there. I like the posters there too. I enjoy dealing with forum players both here and there. But do your page ranking studies, traffic etc. That will answer the main question.

By the way, over 93% of the payments made from our businesses are managed within 24 hours. Only checks and wires are outside of that timeframe. We pay out 7 figures monthly to our members.

Richard.

TheGeneral+ · Jun 23, 2005

Current issue i cant understand is a player gets the boot and his account locked. Royal decides they will only pay him over a 5 week period. I don't understand, but i am willing to listen.

kidslick · Jun 23, 2005

Royal Sports Group Marketing said:
We don't, and never will employ schills. No need to, with all of the Rx support we get. Good luck with your plays tonight, and we'll see you this football season.

Regards,

Richard Jones

sharp post

Journeyman · Jun 23, 2005

Royal Sports Group Marketing said:
Journeyman,

Probably the same reason why Pinnacle is there. I like the posters there too. I enjoy dealing with forum players both here and there. But do your page ranking studies, traffic etc. That will answer the main question.

By the way, over 93% of the payments made from our businesses are managed within 24 hours. Only checks and wires are outside of that timeframe. We pay out 7 figures monthly to our members.

Richard.

Forgot to mention it costs 25 bucks a month :suomi:

riverboatgambler · Jun 23, 2005

i have a piece of the pie in the nba contest tonight and I gurantee i get paid. Please leave this book alone. Go play at all your shit books who screw you over either with shit odds (20 cent lines), and no bonus. You are sending your money halfway around the world you deserve a bonus now and then. The volume of these books is so high they can run on a lower rake than vegas. The bottom line is Royal has never ever stiffed anyone in all these years.

TheGeneral+ · Jun 23, 2005

Is it true that the affiliates who are getting stiffed by Royal have resorted to legal action against Royal or was that reported falsely? Is it true that inside employees are sharing that the Final 4 contest this yr was indeed rigged and that last year No corvette was awared as stated? Just some questions off the top. All could be false, but i am curious since we are having a nice open discussion here which is appreciated.

ClipJoint · Jun 23, 2005

Royal Sports Group Marketing said:
My opinion is Royal is more profitable than ever in its history. Huge moves into both US and European Markets coming this year.

What is your opinion on Bodog, or BCN, or (Any) books owners?

I don't work for Bodog, BCN, or (Any) books owners...but as far as I know, they have not pulled the corrupt shit your owner has. Why are you avoiding the question? I could care less about your inflated opinion of your books financial status...you slow pay, lie, cheat and steal. But all of these characteristics are right on par with the integrity of your owner. It doesn't bother you that you work for the most dishonest man in the industry?

TOW · Jun 24, 2005

Mmmmhhhhh....Royal's Marketing Director dodging a simple question (who's the owner) yet asking questions about other books...that's nice......

Jokes apart Richard is a decent guy.

He has to abide to gag orders so its unreasonable to expect him to post about slow pay tactics, debts towards agents/vendors/employees, rigged contests, the way his collegues have and are being treated let alone about Tej being the sole owner...

RoyalSportsGroupMarketing · Jun 24, 2005

Gen,

This is B2B stuff that I am not aware of. But generalizing (no pun intended) without complete knowlege just leads to speculation. As far as the contests are concerned, it is completely unethical of you to question that in open forum. Kevin flew to the states himself to get the car for the contestant who just actually wanted the money. He was not to happy that we made him accept the car. Also, inside source telling you the contest was fixed. Why would you say something like this? Is there any proof to that statement? I can put you in touch with the winners if you would like. All you have to do is ask. Saying it was fixed is only ok because it is Royal?? Do you ask the same of other books, or speculate in the same way? I really do not think so, it is now just ok with Royal? By the way, isn't posting peoples personal info is against RX policy too? You seem to be willing to do it when it comes to Royal.

Regards,

Richard

RoyalSportsGroupMarketing · Jun 24, 2005

TOW,

No gossip...Just news. Nice avatar. Good luck with BCN this football season.

Regards,

Richard

TheGeneral+ · Jun 24, 2005

No proof whatsoever Richard, thus is why I stated all could be false. Thanks for what you did answer. I tried contacting you guys and no one would respond concerning the 5 week slow pay. Shame on me for trying to do what is right and ask that a guy gets paid immediately when you close his account.

I don't have any agenda vs Royal, nor you Richard. I understand what is going on. I have been involved with a lot of Royal stuff.

Best of luck to you guys on the front lines.

jeffksu · Jun 24, 2005

just my 2 cents...richard jones is a stand up guy....i feel that given the opportunity richard does the right thing for the book as well as the player...i admit about a month ago i was in these same forums ranting and raveing like a lunatic...but i hadn't read the fine print...after the fact, that i felt like a complete ba-ffune...richard and i talked via the phone for appox. 30 minutes and came to a resolution to matter at hand...let me tell you guys one thing...i don't know who owns or who is affiliated with royal...but as long as richard jones is there we are ok...he is a very understanding man from the players side and he has a job to do for the book...but i feel that as long as we can get through to richard jones we are all ok...requested a payout today and am supoosed to pick it up at 3'pm this afternoon...not trying to sway anyone one way or the other just speaking from personal experience...thanks for your time and carry on...at ease...jeffksu

TOW · Jun 24, 2005

Good luck to all books this coming Football season.

I know you guys read TOW, there has been a recent change in advertisement policies....BCN is no longer there. Not because its a bad book, but they have not been in business for four years.

However they do have a flawless track record of payout history....and that's not gossip Richard, but news....

Btw...I was embarassed for you when I received the latest slop pay claim and the player told me you were ready to send him an installment under the promise he'd post everything was fine and he got paid....

Oh well, I guess there's a slight difference between Pinnacle, Olympic, Wsex, VIP, Bodog, BCN and......

Royal...the above mentioned pay on demand..you guys seem to pay only after having gone thru the "Thousand and one ways to slow pay" manual.....

RoyalSportsGroupMarketing · Jun 24, 2005

TOW,

Funny stuff. I would never and have never asked anyone to post anything. Actually quite the contrary. I ask them not to post at all. No gossip...ask the well respected poster Jeff above. He can confirm that one for you...Just news.

Good Luck this coming year in your endeavors,

Best Regards,

Richard Jones

jeffksu · Jun 24, 2005

tow...what richard is saying is the truth..he asked me not to post anything about the situation...but i am one to think that if the right thing is done...it deserves to be stood up for....like i said before i'm not coming on these forums trying to sway not one person....because it's your decision as an indivdual to make your decisions...all i'm saying is that i for one was treated fairly at bet royal...richard and i have had discussions about all different types of topics...and as long as the communication path stays open the results usually return in a positive manner....but instead of always being on the negative end of the spectrum we as humans tend to believe what others have spoken...true or false...he likes it i like it ...she don't like him i don't like him...bullshit give the people a chance to do the right thing....whether it's a sportsbook or everyday life...communication is the key...get both sides of the story before coming to a conclusion...and with that i will conclude my 2 cents worth as it has now turned into about a quarter's worth...thanks again...jeffksu