Remember when the NBA Draft use to be so intriguing?

[ClipJoint]

The 2 most exciting days of the year for me were always the NBA Draft Lottery, and draft day. My Clippers were always a major participant in both. I feel lost this year as we weren't/aren't major players in either. I kind of miss the excitement.

 

[Journeyman]

Here's a list I did out of boredom the other day. It consists of the top 5 players out of draft classes from 1995 to 2003.

1995
1.Kevin Garnett #5
2.Rasheed Wallace #4
3.Michael Finley #21
4.Jerry Stackhouse #3
5.Damon Stoudamire #7
Biggest busts- Ed Obannon(#9), Gary Trent (#11) and Shawn Respert(#8)
Biggest steals- Micheal Finley(#21), Kevin Garnett(#5)
1996
1.Kobe Bryant #13
2.Allen Iverson #1
3.Ray Allen #5
4.Steve Nash #15
5.Jermaine Oneal #17
Biggest busts- Samaki Walker(#6), John Wallace(#18)
Biggest steals- Kobe Bryant(#13), Jeff McInnis(#37), Zydrunas Ilgauskas(#20)
1997
1.Tim Duncan #1
2.Tracy McGrady #9
3.Chauncey Billups #3
4.Stephan Jackson #42
5.Tim Thomas #7
Biggest busts-Keith Van Horn(#2), Tony Battie(#5), Antonio Daniels(#4)
Biggest steals-Stephan Jackson(#42), Tracy McGrady(#9), Bobby Jackson(#23)
1998
1.Dirk Nowitzki #9
2.Paul Pierce #10
3.Vince Carter #5
4.Rashard Lewis #32
5.Antawn Jamison #4
Biggest busts- Micheal Olowokandi(#1), Raef LaFretz(#3), Robert Traylor(#6)
Biggest steals- Rashard Lewis(#32), Cuttino Mobley(#41), Paul Pierce(#10), Dirk Nowitzki(#9)
1999
1.Elton Brand #1
2.Ron Artest #16
3. Shawn Marion #9
4.Richard Hamilton #7
5.Baron Davis #3
Biggest busts- Jonathan Bender(#5), Trajan Langdon(#11), William Avery(#14)
Biggest steals- Manu Ginobili(#57), Ron Artest(#16), Andrei Kirilenko(#24)
2000
1.Michael Redd #43
2.Kenyon Martin #1
3.Jamaal Magloire #19
4.Darius Miles #3
5.Morris Peterson #21
Biggest busts- DerMarr Johnson(#6), Jerome Moiso(#11), Marcus Fizer(#4)
Biggest steals- Michael Redd (#43)
2001
1.Gilbert Arenas #30
2.Pau Gasol #3
3.Richard Jefferson #13
4.Tony Parker #28
tie
5.Joe Johnson #10
5.Jason Richardson #5
Biggest busts- Kwame Brown(#1), Eddie Griffin(#7), Rodney White(#9)
Biggest steals- Gilbert Arenas(#30), Tony Parker(#28), Bobby Simmons(#41), Zack Randolph(#19)
2002
1.Amare Stoudamire #9
2.Yao Ming #1
3.Tayshaun Prince #23
4.Carlos Boozer #34
5.Caron Butler #10
Biggest busts- Jay Williams(#2), Dajuan Wagner(#6), Nikoloz Tskivitvili(#5)
Biggest steals- Carlos Boozer(#34), Amare Stoudamire(#9), Tayshaun Prince(#23)
2003
1.Lebron James #1
2.Dwyane Wade #5
3.Chris Bosh #4
4.Carmelo Anthony #3
tie
5.Josh Howard #29
5.Kirk Hinrich #7
Biggest busts- Darko Milicic(#2)
Biggest steals- Josh Howard(#29), David West(#18), Dwyane Wade(#5)

 

[ClipJoint]

The '96 and '03 drafts are pretty amazing. A lot of superstars out of those 2 drafts alone.

 

[TescoVee]

The NBA channel on Sirius is replaying all the previous NBA drafts. Currently the are doing the 1985 draft. a pretty funny listen

 

[bigdog9933]

The '96 and '03 drafts are pretty amazing. A lot of superstars out of those 2 drafts alone.

remember this dude clip joint i really thought he was next jordan for real!!!!

big bust ucking:

 

[dmmd98]

The NBA channel on Sirius is replaying all the previous NBA drafts. Currently the are doing the 1985 draft. a pretty funny listen

On Raptors tv up here (A mix of NBA TV and Raptors stuff) they have this awesome show where every year they have a film crew in the Raptors war room the day of the draft and leading up to it. Oh the horror of some of these decisions back in 2001 the Raptors were dying to get Richard Jefferson and one of the scouts said don't trade up to get him, Michael Bradley is going to be a great player for us. Another classic Boston is trying to dump Joe Johnson for a future 1st round draft pick Raptors say nope. However its a great insight of what goes on during draft day.

 

[royalfan]

I still think Rudy Gay is the best player with the most upside in the draft...Gay could be another Ray Allen type player, with a bit more inside game, he really lacks on the defensive end and is stll very raw, but has enormous potential IMO..

Not saying he won't be good, but a comparison to Ray Allen doesn't make much sense. One is one of the best shooters in the world, the other cannot shoot at all.

 

[Journeyman]

Not saying he won't be good, but a comparison to Ray Allen doesn't make much sense. One is one of the best shooters in the world, the other cannot shoot at all.

Rudy Gay can't shoot?

 

[TescoVee]

On Raptors tv up here (A mix of NBA TV and Raptors stuff) they have this awesome show where every year they have a film crew in the Raptors war room the day of the draft and leading up to it. Oh the horror of some of these decisions back in 2001 the Raptors were dying to get Richard Jefferson and one of the scouts said don't trade up to get him, Michael Bradley is going to be a great player for us. Another classic Boston is trying to dump Joe Johnson for a future 1st round draft pick Raptors say nope. However its a great insight of what goes on during draft day.

that sounds like a great show. especially for a bumbling front office. would love to see one for an NFL team.

 

[Journeyman]

Rudy Gay can't shoot?

I'm curious why you would say he can't shoot? How many times have you seen him play? He has a very soft touch.

 

[ClipJoint]

remember this dude clip joint i really thought he was next jordan for real!!!!

big bust ucking:

Harold "Baby Jordan" Miner was my favorite college basketball player ever. I really thought he was going to be a star in the NBA. His only highlight came in that dunk contest he won.

 

[gynecologist]

Here's a list I did out of boredom the other day. It consists of the top 5 players out of draft classes from 1995 to 2003.

1995
1.Kevin Garnett #5
2.Rasheed Wallace #4
3.Michael Finley #21
4.Jerry Stackhouse #3
5.Damon Stoudamire #7
Biggest busts- Ed Obannon(#9), Gary Trent (#11) and Shawn Respert(#8)
Biggest steals- Micheal Finley(#21), Kevin Garnett(#5)
1996
1.Kobe Bryant #13
2.Allen Iverson #1
3.Ray Allen #5
4.Steve Nash #15
5.Jermaine Oneal #17
Biggest busts- Samaki Walker(#6), John Wallace(#18)
Biggest steals- Kobe Bryant(#13), Jeff McInnis(#37), Zydrunas Ilgauskas(#20)
1997
1.Tim Duncan #1
2.Tracy McGrady #9
3.Chauncey Billups #3
4.Stephan Jackson #42
5.Tim Thomas #7
Biggest busts-Keith Van Horn(#2), Tony Battie(#5), Antonio Daniels(#4)
Biggest steals-Stephan Jackson(#42), Tracy McGrady(#9), Bobby Jackson(#23)
1998
1.Dirk Nowitzki #9
2.Paul Pierce #10
3.Vince Carter #5
4.Rashard Lewis #32
5.Antawn Jamison #4
Biggest busts- Micheal Olowokandi(#1), Raef LaFretz(#3), Robert Traylor(#6)
Biggest steals- Rashard Lewis(#32), Cuttino Mobley(#41), Paul Pierce(#10), Dirk Nowitzki(#9)
1999
1.Elton Brand #1
2.Ron Artest #16
3. Shawn Marion #9
4.Richard Hamilton #7
5.Baron Davis #3
Biggest busts- Jonathan Bender(#5), Trajan Langdon(#11), William Avery(#14)
Biggest steals- Manu Ginobili(#57), Ron Artest(#16), Andrei Kirilenko(#24)
2000
1.Michael Redd #43
2.Kenyon Martin #1
3.Jamaal Magloire #19
4.Darius Miles #3
5.Morris Peterson #21
Biggest busts- DerMarr Johnson(#6), Jerome Moiso(#11), Marcus Fizer(#4)
Biggest steals- Michael Redd (#43)
2001
1.Gilbert Arenas #30
2.Pau Gasol #3
3.Richard Jefferson #13
4.Tony Parker #28
tie
5.Joe Johnson #10
5.Jason Richardson #5
Biggest busts- Kwame Brown(#1), Eddie Griffin(#7), Rodney White(#9)
Biggest steals- Gilbert Arenas(#30), Tony Parker(#28), Bobby Simmons(#41), Zack Randolph(#19)
2002
1.Amare Stoudamire #9
2.Yao Ming #1
3.Tayshaun Prince #23
4.Carlos Boozer #34
5.Caron Butler #10
Biggest busts- Jay Williams(#2), Dajuan Wagner(#6), Nikoloz Tskivitvili(#5)
Biggest steals- Carlos Boozer(#34), Amare Stoudamire(#9), Tayshaun Prince(#23)
2003
1.Lebron James #1
2.Dwyane Wade #5
3.Chris Bosh #4
4.Carmelo Anthony #3
tie
5.Josh Howard #29
5.Kirk Hinrich #7
Biggest busts- Darko Milicic(#2)
Biggest steals- Josh Howard(#29), David West(#18), Dwyane Wade(#5)

Wow year 2000 sucked.

 

[kobefan08]

I'm curious why you would say he can't shoot? How many times have you seen him play? He has a very soft touch.

he might be able to shoot... but just not at the ray allen type level if you know what I mean

 

[royalfan]

seen him play tons of times. He is a dime a dozen average shooter. Allen is one of the best in the world.

 

[royalfan]

just looked it up to confirm my instinctive thoughts on his game. He always struck me as a poor perimiter shooter when I watched him many times and it appears I am right. 31 percent from downtown this year. Very poor from that short distance considering with all the talent on that team they are normally wide open looks. Doesn't jack up even remotely close to as many as Ray Allen either. I think Gay will be a good player and may eventually learn how to shoot better as he has the strength to do so, but as of now um no, Ray Allen he is not, nor is he within the top 1000 guys that I would compare their games to Ray Allen's game. More of a Richard jefferson type game.

 

[Journeyman]

he might be able to shoot... but just not at the ray allen type level if you know what I mean

lol, he is 19 years old, of course he is not Ray Allen, I'll say this though, he is a much better player at this age than Ray Allen was...

I never said he could shoot like Ray Allen can now, I said I feel he has that potential...We'll see in a couple years.

 

[Journeyman]

seen him play tons of times. He is a dime a dozen average shooter. Allen is one of the best in the world.

Ok take what I said out of context to try and make me look
foolish...Gay will be a great player...and a great shooter/ scorer....he is far from an average shooter.

 

[Journeyman]

just looked it up to confirm my instinctive thoughts on his game. He always struck me as a poor perimiter shooter when I watched him many times and it appears I am right. 31 percent from downtown this year. Very poor from that short distance considering with all the talent on that team they are normally wide open looks. Doesn't jack up even remotely close to as many as Ray Allen either. I think Gay will be a good player and may eventually learn how to shoot better as he has the strength to do so, but as of now um no, Ray Allen he is not, nor is he within the top 1000 guys that I would compare their games to Ray Allen's game. More of a Richard jefferson type game.

Gay was 28-60 (49%) from 3 pt range as a freshman...and 56 -148 in his two years 38% , hardly as bad as you're making him seem...he is the complete package.

 

[royalfan]

Ok take what I said out of context to try and make me look
foolish...Gay will be a great player...and a great shooter/ scorer....he is far from an average shooter.

Didn't think I was taking anything out of context, just pointing out that they do not play similar types of games at all. Many players in the NBA would be a better comparision as Ray Allen's game is three point shooting, Rudy Gay's isn't at all as he is very mediocre if not downright poor from out there. Only comparison I see, is they played for Uconn. If you meant that he will have the same kind of impact in the NBA as Ray Allen, I tend to agree, he very well could, but just not in the same style as Allen does it. You should know my style by know, I just simply like people to know the truth, but possibly I was misinterpreting what you meant, as it sounds like you have watched him play a lot, and would know he isn't a great outside shooter.

 

[royalfan]

Gay was 28-60 (49%) from 3 pt range as a freshman...and 56 -148 in his two years 38% , hardly as bad as you're making him seem...he is the complete package.

So are you saying that he plays a similar style of game to Ray Allen?