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Railing on an argument, like an ad hominen attack, adds nothing of substance or reason to a discussion.

Neither does it address any of the points i made.

Better to say nothing at all.

"Ad hominem (Latin for "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a term is applied to several different types of arguments, most of which are fallacious. Typically it refers to a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself."


Just stop, you don't even know what the author said in most of the articles you posted, that has become obvious. No logical fallacies apply to anything I say, exclusively using my words and my thoughts.

You appeal to higher authorities, I mock them

You ignore results, I grow from them

Do you really think brilliant people post links to other authors work? Be it good or bad? I laugh at that propaganda

I think smart people THINK, can articulate their positions using their own words, and don't ignore the obvious
 
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Just stop, you don't even know what the author said in most of the articles you posted, that has become obvious. No logical fallacies apply to anything I say, exclusively using my words and my thoughts.

You appeal to higher authorities, I mock them

You ignore results, I grow from them

Do you really think brilliant people post links to other authors work? Be it good or bad? I laugh at that propaganda

I think smart people THINK, can articulate their positions using their own words, and don't ignore the obvious

That continuation of your continued empty blusterous remarks aside, & getting back to the heart of this whole thread, where the vampire was staked:

Willie: what I correctly predicted was that all the worse numbers being thrown out there won't be remotely accurate.

X-Files: Why should anyone care if they were accurate or not? They did their job in slowing the toll of suffering, loss of quality of life, ill health (long & short term) & deaths to young & old. Be thankful if you, your friends or loved ones were not of the unlucky ones.



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The truth matters, at least to me in my world

Always did, always will



The truth is some "truths" (e.g. regarding how many angels can sit on a pinhead) just don't "matter". And if the particular truth you've chosen to make such a big deal about (of your statement above) mattered, you should have at least been able to offer an explanation why you think that is the case, but you didn't.
 
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Shocked to learn this thread is needed really, shocked at out short term memory, shocked at the audacity of authors already rewriting history

March 13, 2020, NYT "a paper of record" (these are the pre shutdown numbers)

Total USA cases; 160 million to 240 million
Total USA hospitalized cases; 2.4 million to 21 million
Total USA deaths; 200,000 to 1.7 million

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After shutdown numbers

CDC 100,000 to 240,000 deaths
CDC now, 60,415 deaths and dropping at faster rates than actual deaths are increasing

IHME total hospitalizations on 4/2/2020; 262,092
IHME total hospitalizations on 4/5/202; 166,890 (95,202 less, a drop of 36% in three fucking days)

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Well after the shutdown, remember all those catastrophic statements about a shortage of hospital beds? a shortage of ventilators? THE FUCKING COLLAPSE OF OUR MEDICAL SYSTEM? How fucking stupid does all that look today?

Was it even two weeks ago Cuomo told Trump to come to NY and pick out the people that have to die? SERIOUSLY? And the fucking lap dogs lick it up

Time is doing it's thing people, it always does

According to Cuomo, on this video (cf. 8:50 to 13.30 minutes) there was a high estimate of deaths (around 1.5 million?) by one group he identifies, which he alleges was without mitigation, i.e. without economic shutdown or social distancing etc:

https://cnycentral.com/news/coronav...ds-daily-briefing-on-coronavirus-pandemic-411

He adds that another estimate of potential US deaths was 100-240K, which he claims was a worst case scenario (BTW, Trump said last month it could be as low as 20K). And the actual estimate has been projected down to as low as 60K.

Then he goes on to address the question of whether all the models he refers to, including several more than the two i mention above, were wrong. His answer is that the game is not over yet. You don't call in your bet as a winner at half time, he says. In connection with that point, earlier in his address he quoted Winston Churchill:

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."
 
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Shocked to learn this thread is needed really, shocked at out short term memory, shocked at the audacity of authors already rewriting history

March 13, 2020, NYT "a paper of record" (these are the pre shutdown numbers)

Total USA cases; 160 million to 240 million
Total USA hospitalized cases; 2.4 million to 21 million
Total USA deaths; 200,000 to 1.7 million

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After shutdown numbers

CDC 100,000 to 240,000 deaths
CDC now, 60,415 deaths and dropping at faster rates than actual deaths are increasing

IHME total hospitalizations on 4/2/2020; 262,092
IHME total hospitalizations on 4/5/202; 166,890 (95,202 less, a drop of 36% in three fucking days)

-------------------------
Well after the shutdown, remember all those catastrophic statements about a shortage of hospital beds? a shortage of ventilators? THE FUCKING COLLAPSE OF OUR MEDICAL SYSTEM? How fucking stupid does all that look today?

Was it even two weeks ago Cuomo told Trump to come to NY and pick out the people that have to die? SERIOUSLY? And the fucking lap dogs lick it up

Time is doing it's thing people, it always does

The following is a corrected version of my previous post:

According to Cuomo, on this video (cf. 8:50 to 13.30 minutes) there was a high estimate of deaths (around 1.5 million?) by one group he identifies, which he alleges was without mitigation, i.e. without economic shutdown or social distancing etc:

https://cnycentral.com/news/coronavi...s-pandemic-411

He adds that another estimate of potential US deaths was 100-240K, which he claims was a best case scenario with mitigation (BTW, Trump said last month it could be as low as 20K). And the actual estimate has been projected down to as low as 60K.

Then he goes on to address the question of whether all the models he refers to, including several more than the two i mention above, were wrong. His answer is that the game is not over yet. You don't call in your bet as a winner at half time, he says. In connection with that point, earlier in his address he quoted Winston Churchill:

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."
 

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We'll have far more deaths coming on the other side with poverty and millions unemployed.. Far bigger crisis coming...
 

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I really hope all of you have your gun permits, guns, and ammo. We are going to need to defend out property and family..
Remember if you shoot someone, shoot to kill. IF they live they will sue you, as it is their family will probably sue you
but without any witnesses and them being in your house you will get the "benefit of the doubt" protecting yourself and family

I see crime going up when things start going back to somewhat normal as lots of businesses closing or downsizing due to this
and the economy being bad. When economy is bad crime goes up Robbery and stealing
 
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Listen, when the apocalypse comes and these mother fuckers start turning.......into zombies. I’m on your guys side, aight? I’m trying to be running with the old crazy confederate flag wearing mofos with all the guns. You guys are going to be running the shit. I’m with you guys
 

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