Questions About Justbet Payout

[Funguy]

Don't do it. Books vary on how they handle situations like that, at the very least they just wouldn't count those bets toward your rollover, but more likely they will indeed revoke the bonus $.

While it isn't spelled out in JustBet's rules, I think it falls under the broad "bonus abuse" term which is mentioned in the rules.

OF COURSE its too much to ask that they put their rules on their website!

For what its worth, I just went though all NCAA games and picked the first 20 teams with the best ATS record but only if their ATS record was better than 50/50. It will be interesting to see what my win percentage ends up being...

 

[scottcarter]

As for the credit card fraud, again this makes no sense to me. With every sports book I've ever seen way back in the day, if you depost by credit card, the book themselves reverses the charge if you request a payback, up to the amount of your deposit. This actually saves them money and makes fraud impossible. For example, if I deposited $400 on my credit card, they would reverse the $400 then send me the rest another way (check for example). Are you saying it doesn't work this way anymore?

times have changed since 2006 especially. Turn the 1033 into 3000 or whatever. We wil pay you every cent

 

[Betallsports]

As for the credit card fraud, again this makes no sense to me. With every sports book I've ever seen way back in the day, if you depost by credit card, the book themselves reverses the charge if you request a payback, up to the amount of your deposit. This actually saves them money and makes fraud impossible. For example, if I deposited $400 on my credit card, they would reverse the $400 then send me the rest another way (check for example). Are you saying it doesn't work this way anymore?

??? Name the Book you did this at ? ( way back Then ? )

 

[Funguy]

We did absolutely nothing wrong here. Those that know us understand that if we goof, we will admit it and make it right. What did we do here?

I guess what frusterates me the most is that you don't see the problem. Apparently I am unable to explain it. Did you read the ripoff report on justbet? Maybe that guy can explain it better than me. Its real simple, but I don't know how many ways I can say it. Just add a clear explanation of your promotions to your website that is available from every promotion link, and also add all of your rules, there should be no such thing as an unwritten rule.

Got it?

 

[Betallsports]

fun guy what did you think 6x meant?

They have offered Bonuses ever since I could remember for post Up shops, EVERYONE knows what a 3X, 4X, 5X,6X, ETC. ETC is.

AND they use the Term "ROLLOVER" Everyone knows what that means too.

 

[aceduecetrey]

Simply not true. Google searches aren't that simple. There are a lot of politics behind how books get higher up on the list. Try some sportsbook watch dogs instead. Osga.com and others.

The bigger point here is simple, JustBet has been around 20 years. We are known for fast payouts and good bonuses. We earned that reputation. No one just gets a good reputation. We did absolutely nothing wrong here. Those that know us understand that if we goof, we will admit it and make it right. What did we do here? We allowed a new player to come aboard and deposit with a CC. How many books will accept CC for NEW U.S. Player's? Hardly any. We added a decent bonuses plus a free $50 bet on the super bowl. He won his Bonus Play bet and would like to withdraw it without making a few more bets. Let me know where else you can do that because I sure a hell will would trust them and I doubt they will be in business long enough for you to see your cashout. Guy win guys lose. That will always be the case. Whether you take a bonus or not, I could give a damn. Either way, we will always pay you when you win.

Maybe I missed spoke when I said "rankings". What I meant to say is that if you just simply searched google for offshore sports books, that you guys would not have been very high up in the results. I ma y be wrong as I have not tried it, but I am just guessing. I do know a little about how googles algorithms work and that is why I am guessing this btw.

 

[Funguy]

??? Name the Book you did this at ? ( way back Then ? )

All of them worked that way. Intertops, Island, cryptologic.

 

[Funguy]

They have offered Bonuses ever since I could remember for post Up shops, EVERYONE knows what a 3X, 4X, 5X,6X, ETC. ETC is.

AND they use the Term "ROLLOVER" Everyone knows what that means too.

Ah yes, Rollover, lets see, maybe you can edit the definition for the benefit of all:
rollover

Definition from Wiktionary, the free dictionary

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See also roll over
[edit] English

[edit] Noun

rollover (plural rollovers)

Wikipedia has an article on:Rollover

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1. the act of rolling over
2. a road traffic accident in which a vehicle overturns
3. (computing) a graphic element that changes its shape or colour when the cursor moves over it
4. the process of reinvesting funds in a new issue of the same or similar investment
5. (UK) in the National or European lottery, the situation in which a jackpot that has not been won is carried over to the next week
6. (pinball) A target on the pinball table that is activated when the ball rolls over it. [quotations ▼]
   • 2010, Bob LeVitus, Incredible iPhone Apps For Dummies (page 78)One thing I hate about some pinball games is that they don't let you know your current objective, what happens when you hit specific targets or rollovers, or what targets you should be aiming for right now.

 

[aceduecetrey]

Funguy- i guess you are frustrated, but I can tell you this, that I am sure nothing is going to change and you will surely get only more frustrated.

 

[Betallsports]

Why would you Search it that way ?

If you would have searched it as a "Gambling" Term you would have Found this

Gambling/Rollover

Question
Can you explain to me the concept of rollover.From what i understand you cant withdraw your money until youve bet a certain amount and does this only refer to if youve accepted the bonus or not?Can you give me an example with dollars etc. and does every sportsbook give u the option of rollover or not?



Answer
Your understanding of rollover is accurate.

Rollover is the aggregate amount of wagers that must be made before you can make a withdraw. Generally, rollover is described as a function of the amount of the deposit, the amount of the bonus, or the amount of the deposit plus bonus. A rollover requirement can apply regardless of if you accept a bonus or not; however, a rollover requirement is much more likely when you do accept a bonus. Both the amount of the rollover requirement and whether or not a rollover requirement applies depends on the sportsbook, so you'll need to refer to their terms and conditions.

Here is an example. A sportsbook is offering a 50% bonus on all deposits up to $1000, with an 8 times rollover requirement on the deposit plus bonus. So, if you made a $1000 deposit, you would get a $500 bonus, and your $1000 plus $500 = $1500 bankroll would carry a 8 X $1500 = $12000 rollover requirement.

Also, be aware that not all wagers would apply to the rollover requirement. In general, only bets at -110 or worse apply to the rollover requirement, e.g. bets on favorites at odds of -120 or more would not count toward meeting your rollover requirement. Again, you'll want to refer to terms and conditions.

Take a look at the 5-star rated sportsbooks as rated at my site, The Online Casino Gambling Directory. You can view them here:
http://www.theonlinecasinogamblingdirectory.com/s.php?as_rat=5&t=Sportsbook

1) The first offers a 25% bonus on deposits of between $25 and $400, with an 8x rollover requirement on the deposit plus bonus.
2) The second offers several promotions. One is a 50% bonus on deposits of between $100 and $500; the other is a 10% bonus on deposits of between $20 and $1990. Both have a 20x rollover requirement on the deposit plus bonus.

Best of luck!

Robert Medl

 

[Soriano12]

Ah yes, Rollover, lets see, maybe you can edit the definition for the benefit of all:
rollover

Definition from Wiktionary, the free dictionary...

So which of these explanations from the wiktionary did you think applied for your bonus?
I guess none, so if it had been me and I didn't know what rollover meant in that case, I had contacted their CS BEFORE depositing and using the bonus...but why should anybody do that, if he can just agree to bonus T&Cs that (s)he obviously didn't understand...far easier to just blame a bookie without reason hno:

 

[Betallsports]

http://www.bing.com/search?q=gambln...n&sk=&qs=SC&sk=&pq=gambling+roll&sp=1&sc=2-13


http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/2071021

A rollover is a restriction on a bonus offered by a casino and is a multiplier of the bonus and a minimum deposit. For example, in a 3X rollover, you might be given $50 to gamble with when you deposit $100. In this example, you would have to bet a total of $450 ($150 multiplied by three) to earn the original bonus when you cash out.

Read more: What does rollover mean in casinos? | Answerbag http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/2071021#ixzz1lp4TM4Wp
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[boatboatboat]

funbet, so you REALLY thought you could deposit 400, get a 150 bonus, bet 550 on a game, and if you won the book would send you the 400, plus the 550 the next day?

I have a low milage Van I would like to sell you.............

 

[Betallsports]

IMHO, don't believe the OP is a Seasoned Gambler.

I would think if he was a Gambler that Only in the past placed bets at a Local Bookie on Credit, then i could 100% Understand that he didn't know what a Bonus was or what 6X Rollover is.

In the above case, I would have asked Questions.

Just my 2 cents as how i see it.

Being a Long Time Credit Player myself, i could Understand if that was the case.
There are NO Bonuses as a "Credit" Player.

 

[bigbet1234]

OK - to YOU GUYS this is all "common knowledge" but I would submit to you that for 99% of the population this is NOT common knowledge. Don't you think it would be ethical and appropriate for ALL gambling sites that use this bonus system to fully explain it? I just signed up, I'm VERY USED TO getting incentives for signing up for various new accounts for example I just got $250 worth of bonus money for signing up for a new credit card. I thought it was an incentive for new users to sign up with the site. I never said I expected to be able to withdraw the bonus money the next day. What I expected, and I still think this is a very resonable expectation for someone who didn't know better - is that I would be able to withdraw my actual deposit and winnings from my deposit. I expected the bonus money and winnings would have to stay in the account until the 6x rollover.

At any rate, thanks for your help and your comments.

Regarding the idea of placing a lot of small bets and hoping for 50% win rate. Considering I'd have to bet the full balance more than 3 times, even if I was fortunate enough to be 50% right, I'd lose more than 30% of my account, leaving me with around $700. Not taking the bonus would have resulted in $880 ($400 * 1.2 moneyline on Giants). So I'm worse off by about $180 by taking the "bonus" - WHAT A DEAL!

this explains it, you're retarded

 

[bigbet1234]

if you are that hard up for 1K, I will paypal you $700 and turn your account over to me

 

[bigbet1234]

in all seriousness dude, just roll it over, and take this as a "lesson learned" do the small bets, and hope for 50% win rate and you will come out on top

 

[boatboatboat]

no need to hope, bet both sides of the same game. 50%=done deal.

 

[douglas]

if you are that hard up for 1K, I will paypal you $700 and turn your account over to me

Your Truly a sharp ...........We are still waiting for you in NY

 

[MIKEY.1TIME]

no need to hope, bet both sides of the same game. 50%=done deal.

lots wont accept that