The number one key is not money managemnet but winning, if you don't think you can hit over at least 56 percent then you are in the wrong game, as far as outs are concerned right now you should only have 4 to 5, all the good ones, cris, pinny, greek, 5dimes, skybook, too much turmoil right now to have 15 outs, and remember you are in it for the long haul, never should one bet make you or break you, and never bet just cause the game is on tv, and most importantly forget your wins, and try to disect why a bet lost and learn from it, you should learn something from every losing day.
I beleive Royalfan makes that kinda money. There is tons to be made if you develope a system and use money management.
Apparently he found a system very few use. I'm still baffles at what he actually does....hell, it may just be fading the public. I can see how the bigger events are easier money, tons of props.
About being unethical, I take what the books offer me. When they call/email me offering me *sometimes* a rediculous bonus, I take it.
I would love to see a list of plays for an event to give me an understanding of what you do.
My screen name at the yahoo thing is my email if you get a chance.
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Apparently he found a system very few use. I'm still baffles at what he actually does....hell, it may just be fading the public. I can see how the bigger events are easier money, tons of props.
About being unethical, I take what the books offer me. When they call/email me offering me *sometimes* a rediculous bonus, I take it.
I would love to see a list of plays for an event to give me an understanding of what you do.
My screen name at the yahoo thing is my email if you get a chance.
BB
RoyalFan has his own style and it is unique but I too have yet to meet one so called winning gambler who bets strictly on feel. No real money maganement, power ratings, no making of lines. Just a keen enough ability to be able to beat the books based on what they see.
More times than not I think it is smart to overlook what you see because the old "things don't look as good as they seem" and vice versa seems to be why the contraian makes money at this.
I am not sure making picks on this forum will tell us how well he picks winners but I would love to see how he is able to win based on his theories and philospohies.
I will give him the benfit of the doubt based on the fact I can't imagine he has a whole lot to gain stating this but I still have never seen a capper/gambler who claims to win at this rate based on his techniques.
Maybe I am not giving hime enough credit on how he goes about picking his games. Maybe it is more complex than he leads us to beleieve.
Gambling is a true grind and 54% is about as good as it gets. Maybe that is what he is claiming to be hitting but he does make it sound much easier than that. Maybe he can explain a little more throughouly(sp) his methods.
Saying hey I am just smarter than everyone else seems a different way too approach it. I know I tried and then started doing what all the winners claim to do (record keeping, scalp, middle, follow line moves, cap, follow winning players, a little of everything) and have WAY more success going with the latter.
I have been one of the most avid sports fan I have ever known. My knowledge of sports is close to unmatched among people I have met personally (IMO) and I know I wouldn't have a prayer betting just by watching games. Too difficult to unscrammble it all and put a price on it.
If he is winning this way I have to beleieve in the next few years the losing will come as I think it is just too hard to win with this as your method but until then good luck. Not a rip but more of a compliment if what he says is true.
More times than not I think it is smart to overlook what you see because the old "things don't look as good as they seem" and vice versa seems to be why the contraian makes money at this.
I am not sure making picks on this forum will tell us how well he picks winners but I would love to see how he is able to win based on his theories and philospohies.
I will give him the benfit of the doubt based on the fact I can't imagine he has a whole lot to gain stating this but I still have never seen a capper/gambler who claims to win at this rate based on his techniques.
Maybe I am not giving hime enough credit on how he goes about picking his games. Maybe it is more complex than he leads us to beleieve.
Gambling is a true grind and 54% is about as good as it gets. Maybe that is what he is claiming to be hitting but he does make it sound much easier than that. Maybe he can explain a little more throughouly(sp) his methods.
Saying hey I am just smarter than everyone else seems a different way too approach it. I know I tried and then started doing what all the winners claim to do (record keeping, scalp, middle, follow line moves, cap, follow winning players, a little of everything) and have WAY more success going with the latter.
I have been one of the most avid sports fan I have ever known. My knowledge of sports is close to unmatched among people I have met personally (IMO) and I know I wouldn't have a prayer betting just by watching games. Too difficult to unscrammble it all and put a price on it.
If he is winning this way I have to beleieve in the next few years the losing will come as I think it is just too hard to win with this as your method but until then good luck. Not a rip but more of a compliment if what he says is true.
bigbet1234 said:
more power to him but I can't imagine someone can win (and win BIG and that is the key word here) going about this way. How many all here have tried and failed with this when they first tried gambling, kind of a pipe dream for all of us at one time or another in our early years.
Maybe 1 sport or 1 hot year but to do this consistently with out doing the little things just seems a little difficult. I could be wrong but I would love to see how this operates.
ICE, I dont think he is living the pipe dream as you put it. He is not watching the games for entertainment purposes, at least that is what I take from it.
Of course it would be a pipe dream, getting paid to watch and enjoy sports. He is watching the sports for something, that something I am unclear of, but I can promise you it is not for enjoyment.
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Of course it would be a pipe dream, getting paid to watch and enjoy sports. He is watching the sports for something, that something I am unclear of, but I can promise you it is not for enjoyment.
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Iceman said:
If I were wagering on typcial wagers like most do, everything you say would be correct. No way in hell I could be that successfull. I am very good at college totals, especially involving Nebraska games, but other than that straight action isnt much more than break even for me.
bigbet1234 said:
Watching games is EXTREMELY important during the NBA playoffs where you can see how certain players are being defended and analyzing how they will be defended in the next game. That is by far my most profitable time of the year and it comes from watching every single game and taking advantage of it the next game.
I think you guys that are relatively new at this want to believe royal fan because like iceman says it is a gambler's pipedream. His posts are damaging because they are leading people to really believe they can be professional gamblers by picking winners. It just does not happen unless you are moving lines yourself. Do the math. It is just impossible
WVU, i'm not new to this. And I don't think he is saying anyone can do it. It's like saying anyone can win at poker, or be a pro poker/athlete, or whatever. You find something you are good at, or a system it works, and you use it.
I am getting out of the whole gambling scene in 3-4 months. I just find it interesing how he picks his spots.
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I am getting out of the whole gambling scene in 3-4 months. I just find it interesing how he picks his spots.
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WVU, you're getting too caught up in "units". royalfan already said that a unit for him is $100. So if he's up 3500 units over 5 years, it means he's up $350,000, not that his bankroll has been multiplied 35 times over that span.WVU said:
Further, he has said that his bankroll is well into the six figures, which means that over that span, he's maybe doubled or tripled his bankroll. In other words, using "1 unit=1% of BR", he would be up 100-200 units over 5 years, not 3500.
