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Thanks for the input erwinmark.

50% of portfolio on Nexen (NXA): $22.16
50% of portfolio on Encana (ECA): $32.26
 

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You might want to take a look at the TBT, if you like to trade, this goes between 46 and 51 depending on how the rates of long bond are. Bought the puts tues when the shares were 51, then sold too soon took a profit, though. Went to 46 and change.
 

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You might want to take a look at the TBT, if you like to trade, this goes between 46 and 51 depending on how the rates of long bond are. Bought the puts tues when the shares were 51, then sold too soon took a profit, though. Went to 46 and change.

I see, ultrashort treasuries. I'm afraid I don't have much experience there. Can you tell us a little bit about trading in TBT?
 

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Soros is doing the same thing with China. His take is China is a bubble and he's been on TV talking about it. What a joke ... but, this is what big money and the talking heads on TV do.

Your best investment decision ever is to turn off CNBC and TV, and the media in general, and make your own opinion and stick to it.

The talking heads will always be extremely bullish or extremely bearish, it's their nature. They either want to talk stocks/commodities down to load up ... or they want to talk them up so they can get a better short entry position.


Stick to your guns ... 'nuff said.

The thing about these talking heads on TV is that they are so transparent. Even someone with a little bit of training in trading can tell they are full of it.
 

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It seems that gold followed the market for most of the month of February. The market ended up for the month and so did gold, contrary to the average seasonal price that I mentioned earlier in the thread. I thought the price would go down.

I'm out of gold for now and still have the following positions:

50% of portfolio on Nexen (NXY): $22.16 (I had posted the wrong ticker symbol above. Sorry for any misunderstanding.)
50% of portfolio on Encana (ECA): $32.26

I should have waited to post these since futures were down the morning I posted them and I could have posted a lower number toward the end of the day. NXY ended at 22.50 on Friday (up 1.5%) and ECA 32.78 (up 1.9%) so I'm still above water in those 2 investments. I'm not sure how long I'll be keeping them though.
 

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Looks like the dollar is up so oil is down slightly. Oil had been up earlier. I put in a sell order to sell at the original prices to ensure that I don't lose on this trade.
 

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The TBT moves against the market, so if rates go up, they go up, and vice versa. Currently the rates can't go anyway but up, the question is when? The TBT follows the auction, so if they get a well subscribed auction, which has been a given, because FED is going all in, the rates stay low, and TBT goes lower. Weeks where no fed auction they drift up, then get taken back down. It has been cycling back and forth. They should be close to there lows, after this week look for rates to move up, and TBT to move also.
 

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The TBT moves against the market, so if rates go up, they go up, and vice versa. Currently the rates can't go anyway but up, the question is when? The TBT follows the auction, so if they get a well subscribed auction, which has been a given, because FED is going all in, the rates stay low, and TBT goes lower. Weeks where no fed auction they drift up, then get taken back down. It has been cycling back and forth. They should be close to there lows, after this week look for rates to move up, and TBT to move also.

TBT closed at 46.99 today. Let's see where it goes from here.

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It seems that gold followed the market for most of the month of February. The market ended up for the month and so did gold, contrary to the average seasonal price that I mentioned earlier in the thread. I thought the price would go down.

I'm out of gold for now and still have the following positions:

50% of portfolio on Nexen (NXY): $22.16 (I had posted the wrong ticker symbol above. Sorry for any misunderstanding.)
50% of portfolio on Encana (ECA): $32.26

I should have waited to post these since futures were down the morning I posted them and I could have posted a lower number toward the end of the day. NXY ended at 22.50 on Friday (up 1.5%) and ECA 32.78 (up 1.9%) so I'm still above water in those 2 investments. I'm not sure how long I'll be keeping them though.

Sold these 2 today.

Here is the scorecard. The first 3 trades I mentioned 1-31, 2-4 and 2-5 all went the way I said they would so I am 5-1.

Trade#..Symbol..Bought..Sold..Weight..%..Net
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1 DGP 25.00 25.25 1.00 +1.00% +1.00%
2 DZZ 14.13 13.50 1.00 -4.46% -4.46%
3a NXY 22.16 22.84 0.50 +1.03% +0.51%
3b ECA 32.16 33.89 0.50 +1.05% +0.52%
 

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Just bought DGP at 27.65.

Gold spiked this morning. I expect it to continue to go up on strength.
 

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Just bought DGP at 27.65.

Gold spiked this morning. I expect it to continue to go up on strength.

Gold took a dump Friday morning dropping over $15 an ounce in a few minutes. I almost sold my DGP the day before because the XAU index (Gold and Silver sector) was dropping on Thursday.

I still feel gold will go up so I will hold on to DGP unless gold takes another precipitous drop.
 

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Gold took a dump Friday morning dropping over $15 an ounce in a few minutes. I almost sold my DGP the day before because the XAU index (Gold and Silver sector) was dropping on Thursday.

I still feel gold will go up so I will hold on to DGP unless gold takes another precipitous drop.


Gold will probably test 1025ish before moving higher ... Let the dollar finish its bounce before going long gold. It'll save you a headache and some cash. You've got at least another week or two before you need to go long gold again ... jmo.
 

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You might want to take a look at the TBT, if you like to trade, this goes between 46 and 51 depending on how the rates of long bond are. Bought the puts tues when the shares were 51, then sold too soon took a profit, though. Went to 46 and change.


Took off today, looks like heading back to $51.
 

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Gold will probably test 1025ish before moving higher ... Let the dollar finish its bounce before going long gold. It'll save you a headache and some cash. You've got at least another week or two before you need to go long gold again ... jmo.

I've been reading this as well kuwl. I was going to sell today because this has dropped enough but I decided to wait it out until next month when it should go up. Sure enough, it went up right after I thought about selling it.

If it goes down too much further I'll sell and look to buy it back next month. Thanks for the input.
 

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Based on the way the bond auction went today, and if they have a poor 7 year auction on Thursday, it could zoom up.

The Fed could start to buy again to hold down prices, but sooner or later it will rise considerably. I buy the calls and put options on this. Depending on which direction it appears to be moving. The China vs U.S. disput could keep them out of the market which should make rates go up, which will be good for this trade.
 

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Gold took a dump Friday morning dropping over $15 an ounce in a few minutes. I almost sold my DGP the day before because the XAU index (Gold and Silver sector) was dropping on Thursday.

I still feel gold will go up so I will hold on to DGP unless gold takes another precipitous drop.

Gold went up on Friday and continues to go up this morning (Monday). DGP was down quite a bit from the price I bought it at 27.65 but is rebounding.
 

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Crossed 50.50 today, if the T-bill auction goes bad this week we could see 52+ by the end of the week.
 

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Just bought DGP at 27.65.

Gold spiked this morning. I expect it to continue to go up on strength.

Still holding DGP even though it went down to under 26 a couple weeks ago.

It went above 28 today. I have put in a sell at 27.65 for the record.
 

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