if you aren't slicing any of your other clubs but just your driver it usually means you are swinging way to hard, try to swing easier and keep your head behind the ball at impact.. alot of people's bodies are way to far ahead of the ball at impact with the driver. Basically what I mean is they are coming up and out of the shot too soon. When you see Tiger do that usually he is swinging too hard and the result for him is a block out to the right.
When you swing too hard the tendecy for a lot of people is to come over the top. So make sure on your backswing (and specifically the takeaway) the club isn't getting stuck inside as most people then come over the top to compensate.
When you swing too hard the tendecy for a lot of people is to come over the top. So make sure on your backswing (and specifically the takeaway) the club isn't getting stuck inside as most people then come over the top to compensate.
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vaseline is very illegal....fun to try, but doesn't make THAT much of a diff....oh yeah, did i mention it is cheating? Can't do it in a tourney, and who would want to cheat buddies....i see zero benefit to this solution.
Seriously, the guy that says hook the ball until you find the medium is the advise I like the best....for me, the harder I swing, the faster I turn the club over and the more draw/hook I get while when I slow it down my body goes through too fast and the club face is open and I get a fade/slice. So in all seriousness, when I slice I have to swing harder....everyone has to learn how their swing works on their own....lessons help you figure this out faster....gl
vaseline is very illegal....fun to try, but doesn't make THAT much of a diff....oh yeah, did i mention it is cheating? Can't do it in a tourney, and who would want to cheat buddies....i see zero benefit to this solution.
Seriously, the guy that says hook the ball until you find the medium is the advise I like the best....for me, the harder I swing, the faster I turn the club over and the more draw/hook I get while when I slow it down my body goes through too fast and the club face is open and I get a fade/slice. So in all seriousness, when I slice I have to swing harder....everyone has to learn how their swing works on their own....lessons help you figure this out faster....gl
Just got back from the range. Hit a full bucket, and sliced every one of them bitches. So frustrating....
Tried everything i could think of and couldn't find a solution. Guess I better bring a full tube of vaseline tomorrow to the course haha.
Railbird I am still laughing from your response.
Tried everything i could think of and couldn't find a solution. Guess I better bring a full tube of vaseline tomorrow to the course haha.
Railbird I am still laughing from your response.
Pyro,
I have played this silly but wonderful game for almost 50 years. I have been where you are; I was in the Navy, and hadn't played in many months. I got a chance to play in Scotland, of all places, and I couldn't hit the fairway even using the Railbird method, ie. aiming 50 yds left. I struggled with a slice for probably 25 years and then one day, it just clicked. I read an article by Gary Player in one of the golf magazines(perhaps these magazines now have an online component where you could view instruction articles?) and tried it out at the range and I've been a happy hooker ever since. But be careful what you ask for as you can talk to a slice but that damned hooker won't listen! LOL
Here's something to work on until we spend our 15 mins together. Assuming you're R-handed; 1) strengthen your grip(V on the R-hand should point to the right of the right shoulder....that's a strong grip and remember it because you will be resorting to a weak grip, ie. the V of the right hand pointing to the left shoulder in no time as that will be necessary to counteract the resultant duck hook...lol)
2) tee the ball off the inside of your left heel
3) take the club back on an inside track and swing from the inside to the outside. (this is very important and without ever seeing you I can say with 100% certainty that you are not doing this but rather, in spite of whatever you think or say, you are swinging from the outside to the inside and cutting across the ball. You have to be; that is the only way you can slice the ball consistently like you say you are).
4) As an old baseball player, what I try to visualize is keeping my right elbow tucked into my right side and swinging from the inside to the outside and then trying to pull the ball to left field. If you swing slow and release at the bottom of your swing arc, then you will draw the ball. Once you figure that out, then we can work on your hook...you only thought you had problems now...LOL
Great response Doug Stewart.
I am right handed and a former baseball player.
Here is what I noticed I am doing:
I start my backswing and act like I am going to strike the ball. However, right before the point of impact I stop my swing to see whats going on. It seems my left hand is leading and has alot of pressure on the palm, but the biggest problem seems to be that the club head has opened up towards the right and is facing that way (thus the slice). I tried strengthening my grip, however the club head still impacts the ball open-faced pointing right.
Just thought I'd throw it out there. Looking forward to your reply.
I am right handed and a former baseball player.
Here is what I noticed I am doing:
I start my backswing and act like I am going to strike the ball. However, right before the point of impact I stop my swing to see whats going on. It seems my left hand is leading and has alot of pressure on the palm, but the biggest problem seems to be that the club head has opened up towards the right and is facing that way (thus the slice). I tried strengthening my grip, however the club head still impacts the ball open-faced pointing right.
Just thought I'd throw it out there. Looking forward to your reply.
Grip the club and then forget about your hands! The hands only grip the club, they should be forgotten during the swing!
You said..."however the club head still impacts the ball open-faced pointing right." You do realize that at some point that is impossible? If you address the ball with the clubface square and your grip weak, then you can swing through the ball with an open clubface and slice the ball. We agree on that. Now let's exaggerate a bit....if you grip the club with a strong grip, and you address the ball, but this time instead of squaring the clubface, you turn the clubface to the left, let's say, (since we're exaggerating anyway), 90 degrees. Do you still maintain that you can swing the club through the ball with an open clubface and thereby slice the ball? Of course not! Of course you wouldn't be able to hit the ball like that either, so now we just have to compromise and adjust so that you're swinging through the ball with a square clubface. It can be done and it's real simple once it dawns on you.
Here's a drill for you...you can do it with a club(which is obviously better), but you can do it without also. If you stretch your hand out palm up, that's called "supination"; if your palm is down, that's called "pronation". Now go back to your baseball swing; if you swing through the ball with supination, then you drive the ball to right field. In order to drive the ball to left field, you have to pronate your right arm. Practice this swing over and over until you feel the pronation. Then practice your golf swing with the same feeling of pronation but try to pronate your right arm right at impact with the ball, If you pronate too soon, you will duck huck or pull to the left; if you don't pronate before hitting the ball, you will slice it or block it to the right (field). Once you get that feeling, and a couple of beers helps immeasurably in my experience, you can swing the club so slowly and then just explode, pronate through impact and the ball will sail with just the sweetest draw!
Agree with Wil....Grip
And imo you need to move the left hand, right
Slice = outside/in swing = Bad. Low,Slow and Away
Looking at my quick tip book sais, check grip, place ball back in stance, check feet...make sure its not open, stand further from ball, start swing with legs then hips
IMO, leave the Driver in the BAG when playing for $$$
Drive for Show...Chip and Putt for Dough
BOL
And imo you need to move the left hand, right
Slice = outside/in swing = Bad. Low,Slow and Away
Looking at my quick tip book sais, check grip, place ball back in stance, check feet...make sure its not open, stand further from ball, start swing with legs then hips
IMO, leave the Driver in the BAG when playing for $$$
Drive for Show...Chip and Putt for Dough
BOL
Figured I'd bump this and see if i get any new responses. Tried widening the stance today, stiffening the grip, and hitting more down on the ball. I hit it straight, but skied the tee shots just past the womens tee haha.
Playing in a pretty big outing tomorrow with alot of people in finance and want to be on the top of my game...
Playing in a pretty big outing tomorrow with alot of people in finance and want to be on the top of my game...
Slicing the ball
:smoker2: I wish i had your problem some time. I have just the reverse. Draw everything. My suggestion is-- I fixed my wife's fade in about 20 swings. A slice is mailnly caused by the shoulder moving first in the downswing. It moves out instead off down or behind the arms. A three wood is the easiest thing to practive with and a standard three has 15 degrees of loft compared to 10.5 for a driver. I hit my three wood as far as my driver because i can work it more right to left and get more roll. Tomorrow, get your three wood, take your stance , drop your right foot back 6 to 8 inches. This will make you swing more inside to out. Take 3/4 swings at first and concentrate on holding that right shouder back as long as possible. Be sure and hold the club lightly so that your arms and clubface can turn over. Gradually you can move your right foot up but i would still keep it at least two inches back. If you lose your balance in the drill, then your shoulders are going first. It will promote you to have an inside to out swing or you will lose your balance. You have to change your swingpath. No more outside to in , but inside to out. With your right foot pulled back, delaying your right shoulder, it's impossible to come across the ball and not lose your balance. Just 3/4 swings at first. It will grove into your swing in no time.
:smoker2: I wish i had your problem some time. I have just the reverse. Draw everything. My suggestion is-- I fixed my wife's fade in about 20 swings. A slice is mailnly caused by the shoulder moving first in the downswing. It moves out instead off down or behind the arms. A three wood is the easiest thing to practive with and a standard three has 15 degrees of loft compared to 10.5 for a driver. I hit my three wood as far as my driver because i can work it more right to left and get more roll. Tomorrow, get your three wood, take your stance , drop your right foot back 6 to 8 inches. This will make you swing more inside to out. Take 3/4 swings at first and concentrate on holding that right shouder back as long as possible. Be sure and hold the club lightly so that your arms and clubface can turn over. Gradually you can move your right foot up but i would still keep it at least two inches back. If you lose your balance in the drill, then your shoulders are going first. It will promote you to have an inside to out swing or you will lose your balance. You have to change your swingpath. No more outside to in , but inside to out. With your right foot pulled back, delaying your right shoulder, it's impossible to come across the ball and not lose your balance. Just 3/4 swings at first. It will grove into your swing in no time.
Good luck...just try to keep it in the short grass. Most of your strokes saved come from 50 yards in. You only hit driver 15-16,(assuming no ob's or lost balls and rehitting driver), strokes per round. You average 100...that leaves 85% of your game other than driver. I wish I would follow that advise myself.
