Now do you think Tom Brady is better than Peyton Manning?

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Brady is 3-4 in Super Bowls if Seattle n ATL don't literally hand him the trophy. He's played for the best coach to ever coach in the NFL. Brady is top 10 all time but he's not top 5 in my book. Peyton was better

i can make a legitimate argument that Tony Romo is better then Brady. Romo has a better completion % more yards per attempt and a higher passer rating and QBR.

superbowls are a team stat not a way to judge players that's my opinion

And they also are 7-0 save for just as improbable catches/wierd shit.... this stuff has evened out for the Pat's... remeber Tyree? Asante Samuel?
 

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The only problem with this (besides the fact that Brady played in 3 more Super Bowls), is that SF could spend as much money as they wanted.

The Pats can only spend the same as everybody else. HUGE (like Trump HUUUUGE) difference.


Yes and it also just meant in 3 seasons Montana lost a playoff game, other than the SB where Brady won them. The idea that 4-0 is better than 5-2... I don't get it. But I will say this: if there is an argument it isn't Manning, it would sooner be Montana. And this is subjective... but I think it is fair to say that someone saying anyone other than BB is issuing a contrarian view. That is OK, but I don't think they are have the ammo to win the argument.
 
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Place Manning with the New England coaching staff and we MIGHT have an honest discussion.

I love Brady but Manning in the same situation....come on.

The NE organization is just better than all the rest.


See, that's the thing. There's no questioning that Brady is an all time great. But the Patriots organization is an all time great. Would Drew Brees be the best ever if he played for that organization for 20 years? Yep. And they still would have won 5 super bowls with Brees.

Fuck Manning. Manning played in a dome with a great offensive line for most of his career with top tier receivers and was nothing more than a pure pocket passer. Manning isn't even top 4, regardless of stats. Brady and Brees have done much more with much less than Manning, period.

I've watched last weeks super bowl 3 times now. Brady was slinging shit in the first half, and slung shit in the second half. He could easily have wound up with 3 interceptions. Everything just came together, though. And, don't get me wrong; he fucking slung some beauties......but he was a gunslinger and got away with it.

Brady is the best ever because he works for the best organization ever.
 

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why didn't Montana play in more SB's?

Do you actually think it's better to lose before you get there than it is the lose when you get there?

why did Montana play in only 6 Conference Championship games? going 4-2? Brady is 7-4. Do you think 4-2 is better than 7-4 too?

Total playoffs; Brady 25-9 and Montana 16-7

Career record regular season

TB 183-52 77.9%
JM 117-47 71.3%

For the record, I don't believe any of this in and by itself proves who's better, and I don't think anyone can win these arguments

But if you do so strongly that you think this "puts it to rest", then you have to conclude Brady is better

Its not like San Fran beat juggernauts in those super bowl wins.....the no defense Dolphins, bungles.....plus San Fran had good defense and the starters all played on special teams....plus Jerry rice was the best receiver that ever played the game.
 

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Brady is the GOAT as he has all those rings, but if you were going to start a team from scratch who would you rather have? My answer would be Manning as he is not only a QB, but is a pseudo offensive coordinator as well and virtually guarantees about 12 wins per season no matter where he goes. In that respect I think Manning is more valuable while Brady has played his entire career for the best coach most likely of all time and Manning is the only QB to win Superbowls for two different teams.
 

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If you'd start your team with manning over Brady, you are a mook and don't know much about football
 

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You got to give Eli some credit or else best season ever would belong to New England . Yes I’m a giant fan but he earned that Super Bowl and put an end to the perfect season
 

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