Not another word about West Coast teams!

[WCBias]

What a dumb thread. Cal won, in Haiti, or whatever that **** town's name is, against a bowl team. If the debate is Cal vs. Texas, then why don't you compare Texas performance at Kansas...WHO IS NOT GOING BOWLING and has a losing record, and if not for jack-ass coaching, we wouldn't be having this debate. Or how about CAL's only loss coming to the number 1 team in the country, by 6 points, with four plays and nine yards to a win, compared to Texas, that didn't get a whiff at the end-zone losing to the number 2 team in the country. It's all relative Pete, and I'd love to see Cal play Texas because they would own their sorry one dimensional ass.

I'm not going to sit here and say Auburn sucks and the entire SEC sucks because they barely beat a team (Tennessee) that lost at home to ND, and barely beat Kentucky last week.

USC would *****-slap Auburn, will struggle with Oklahoma but will still win, and Cal will beat whoever they play in a bowl game, and it better be Michigan, because I gotta stadium to pay for in Corvallis and Sun Bowl funds ain't gonna cut it.

 

[EasyMoney]

Hey I thing Meyer is a great coach. He took 2 average teams and made them very good, but it's not like carr sucks. He's won a national championship. Since 1997 he's won73 games. That's over 9 wins a year. There is what like maybe 2 or 3 coaches that have won more over that span. Oaklahoma hasn't. Miami has't. The only one's I can think of off the top of my head are FSU and Tenn.

 

[GoSooners]

You put either of the Stoops brothers in that conference and they would have that many wins too. I'll give Meyer kudos for all of those wins. Not saying he's just your average coach. But he's going into the big leagues now. I want to see how far that funny looking offense he runs will get in the SEC. Bigtime defenses will probably have that option/pass offense figured out after the first game. He's still got a lot to prove in my opinion.

 

[EasyMoney]

WC,

I think most peoples problem with Cal is that the USC game was the only good team they played all year. I will admit that most people are biased against the west coast. I like to think that I'm not. I think USC is #1 and Cal is certainly good but lets face it S. miss lost to Memphis and lost badly to Cin, and TCU. If you gave Texas, Mich, Va Tech, Miami, Loisville, Utah, or UGA Cal's scheduale they would all have 1 loss at the most.

 

[WCBias]

Easy M

I'll be the first to admit the Pac 10 is not that great this year, as opposed to others who feel their conference is god's gift to college football.

In defense of Cal, they gave Oregon State their worst beating in Corvallis in years, while LSU needed Oregon State's kicker to win in BR. They beat four bowl teams and other than tonight and Oregon, beat most teams convincingly, brutally in some cases. As for tonight's game, Add that TD that was called back on a bogus clipping call and its a 17 point victory. Like I said in my Pac 10 thread, this was S-Miss's Bowl game, it certainly isn't N. Texas.

My point was simply that if you are going to compare Cal with Texas, look a little deeper than tonights game. Texas played at Kansas a few weeks back and played brutally, had no business winning the game. You're going to ding a team that beats a bowl team on the road but forget about Texas at Kansas? I know, Kansas is in the Big 12 North, the toughest conference in football. And texas beat a bunch of 4-loss teams. But really, who did Texas beat that is a good football team, not just above average.

As for comparing them with other teams, I would have no problem whatsoever if Utah or Louisville was ranked above them. Georgia, Miami, and V-tech have two losses and had let-down games also during the season. Of those teams, if Georgia was ranked over Cal, I don't think I would argue. But certainly Cal played USC better than V-tech, and played them at USC...and should have won! And V-tech just beat Miami, so they are not even considered.

If Cal is guilty of anything, it is that they picked a bad time to not blow out a team. Like I said, if they were to be leapfrogged by Georgia or Louisville, I'd be OK with it. Texas is a one-dimensional joke of a football team with a good defense and a whiny beyatch for a coach.

 

[LSUpete]

"In defense of Cal, they gave Oregon State their worst beating in Corvallis in years, while LSU needed Oregon State's kicker to win in BR."



JESUS Christ you ALWAYS bring up this same old lame point. OKAY....I'll give you the missed extra points in that game if you give me the missed field goals by LSU's kicker. Oregon State played a great game that night, but they DID not lose simply because of their missed extra points.

My original point was and still is that Cal is very overated, and does not deserve to be the #4 team in the country. You can put whomever you want into the Rose Bowl (I used Texass because they're next in line) just don't give it to a Cal team that obviously feasted on a weak Pac-10 schedule.

 

[wwpid]

For those of you who feel that cal should be in the rose bowl over texas, please answer me this. How can you include Cal over texas when Cal hasnt beaten one top 25 bcs team the whole year,while texas has soundly beaten 3. wwpid

 

[winkyduck]

Win,

Here's one for ya. Name the only team to beat 4 teams with at least 9 wins this season. Give up. Auburn. OU and USC combine for 3.

Also curious why you think a Utah/ Mich game would be a huge coaching mismatch.

Here's one for ya. Name the only team to play a NON-D1 team this season. Give up. Auburn. Ou and USC combine for ZERO!

why do i think Utah/Michigan would be a huge coaching mismatch? lloyd carr has all the imagination of a Nuclear Bomb. if he gets up 10 he is as predictable as the sun rising in the east and setting in the west.

now - if UT/Hail to the Victors meet up the road from me - i can't bet Michigan fast enough. Texass playing a bowl game outside the state and with a coach who gags under the pressure more than Greg Norman is too good to pass up.

 

[EasyMoney]

WC,

I like the point you make about Cal and Texas. I think you could easily drop both of them down below, Louisville, UGA or Utah. I also agree that every team has a game or 2 during the course of the year that they don't play great in and that shouldn't hurt them. It is unfortunate for Cal that that game for them was the last game.

Win,
Auburn played that game against Citadel because the team they had on the scheduale (8-3 Bowling Green) backed out of the game. As for Carr, he must be doing something right to win that many games. If he's that predictable then why does he win 9 or 10 games a year. I'm a huge Mich fan and he's far less predicatable than Moller or even Bo was toward the end of his carrer.

 

[EasyMoney]

win,

Here's another one for ya, which is the only team this season that beat 3 teams that was ranked #10 or higher at the time of the game. Auburn. Allthough USC and OU do at least combine for 3.

 

[FairWarning]

It would like to see USC play those 2 BCS teams now. Because they barely got by Va.Tech and were lucky to beat Cal.:finger:

At least they had the balls to play a team like Va Tech on the road. What tough nonconference road games did OU and Auburn play?

If the Rose Bowl picks Cal ahead of Texas, they will lose a little luster. They like to preach the Big 10-Pac 10 tradition.

 

[WCBias]

Pete,

You make my point for me. If you want to call the Pac 10 lame, why not call the SEC lame? How many teams with winning records did LSU beat this year? If I sat here and said LSU is one of the most overrated teams and does not deserve to be ranked 11th you'd crap your pants, yet you call out Cal's schedule. I'm calling out LSU's schedule. Arkansas State, Vanderbilt, Troy, Mississippi, Mississippi State is no different that Arizona, Washington, Washington State, and Oregon.

Why LSU? Because they are the 2nd best team in the SEC, just like Cal is the 2nd best team in the Pac. I'll go through the same process with Texas, Florida State, Michigan.

It's an ignorant comment to say Cal is overrated after watching them play one game, especially since you probably lost a bet, as you were on here saying how bad Cal would crush S. Miss.

There is trash at the bottom of every conference and on every schedule. If you want to say Cal is overrated, fine. But then so is Texas, Utah, Boise State...where does it end? Quit with calling the Pac 10 weak and I'll lay off of LSU's pansy schedule, one that had a common opponent with Cal.

By the way, a team from the Pac 10 beat the ACC champion and the Big 10 champion...did a team from the SEC beat any conference champion this year? No, because their OOC schedule is littered with Arkansas States and Citidels and Louisiana Laffs.

How about the SEC is weak, and the only reason Auburn went undefeated is because they feasted on a weak SEC conference. It's true, so STFU an quit whining.

 

[DanTanna]

Pete,

You make my point for me. If you want to call the Pac 10 lame, why not call the SEC lame? How many teams with winning records did LSU beat this year? If I sat here and said LSU is one of the most overrated teams and does not deserve to be ranked 11th you'd crap your pants, yet you call out Cal's schedule. I'm calling out LSU's schedule. Arkansas State, Vanderbilt, Troy, Mississippi, Mississippi State is no different that Arizona, Washington, Washington State, and Oregon.

Why LSU? Because they are the 2nd best team in the SEC, just like Cal is the 2nd best team in the Pac. I'll go through the same process with Texas, Florida State, Michigan.

It's an ignorant comment to say Cal is overrated after watching them play one game, especially since you probably lost a bet, as you were on here saying how bad Cal would crush S. Miss.

There is trash at the bottom of every conference and on every schedule. If you want to say Cal is overrated, fine. But then so is Texas, Utah, Boise State...where does it end? Quit with calling the Pac 10 weak and I'll lay off of LSU's pansy schedule, one that had a common opponent with Cal.

By the way, a team from the Pac 10 beat the ACC champion and the Big 10 champion...did a team from the SEC beat any conference champion this year? No, because their OOC schedule is littered with Arkansas States and Citidels and Louisiana Laffs.

How about the SEC is weak, and the only reason Auburn went undefeated is because they feasted on a weak SEC conference. It's true, so STFU an quit whining.

You're way off here. The SEC is 10 times a stronger conference than the Pac10. It's almost criminal that Auburn isn't playing for the national title.

I guarantee you that Tennesse would beat the **** out of California.

 

[LSUpete]

I'll say it one more time......

Cal does not deserve to go to the Rose Bowl OR their #4 ranking. This has nothing to do with the LSU Tigers or THEIR ranking, just my opinion.

CONGRATULATIONS W.C. Bias.....I am through with you. From now on, let's just agree to stay away from each other.

 

[jwunderdog]

I am laughing at everyone that thinks Cal is not better then Texas based on last nights game. Very Short memory, What the hell was that Fine performance by the Longhorns 3 weeks ago against Kansas? If anyone should be bitching it is Bosie or Louisville. I don't really care either way who gets the bid, but it is not up to the committee, the Top 4 in the BCS standings automatically get the bid.

 

[EveryGamblersDream]

Winky are we still on?

Nickel Oklahoma/USC SU winner. Oklahoma crushes these frauds.

 

[EveryGamblersDream]

I am laughing at everyone that thinks Cal is not better then Texas based on last nights game. Very Short memory, What the hell was that Fine performance by the Longhorns 3 weeks ago against Kansas? If anyone should be bitching it is Bosie or Louisville. I don't really care either way who gets the bid, but it is not up to the committee, the Top 4 in the BCS standings automatically get the bid.

Cal would beat Texas by ATLEAST 14. Don't get me started on Boise St as they belong in the Orange Bowl to bring down the whole BCS in the process!

 

[WCBias]

Dan.....Tennessee?......Bwaawaawaawaaa...two words...notre dame

Pete, you start an arrogant thread bashing west coast teams and you think I'm not going to respond? If I was dumb enough to start a thread called "Not Another word About the SEC" judging Georgia on their game at home vs. Marshall or Tennessee at home vs. Notre Dame/Kentucky, or yes, LSU at home vs. OSU or Troy, you, Dan, and every other person on this board would ride my ass back to Oregon. Rightfully too, because that, like this one, would be a stupid moronic thread.

So now you are going to break up with me in front of everybody at the party? No worries, there are plenty of other girls to take to the dance. Remove the tampon and have a nice day.