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Atlanta +1 for sure...I know the Seahawks pretty well.
 
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That NYG/Pitt game should go OVER easy.....both teams should move the ball up and down. Big Ben back is a 100000% upgrade for Pitt
 

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Chargers seems like a solid play week 1 purely on burrows lack of experience and San Diego’s defense

Rookie qb’s tend to not do so well week 1. Seems Valid. No preseason games no tape. May be advantage for Burrows. Especially if they just let him loose and don’t protect him, for good chance to see what he has. Lots of weapons on Bengals offensive side imo. Personally no lean either way myself. I don’t feel the Bolts offensive units are anything too special. Taylor is a good QB though, and wins ballgames.

I would think Bolts play vanilla offensively and they let Taylor do his more conservative style play. Same may be done with Burrows who knows. Low scoring game seems optimal with Bolts defense vs rookie qb. But turnovers can produce points. Tough game imo.
 

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That NYG/Pitt game should go OVER easy.....both teams should move the ball up and down. Big Ben back is a 100000% upgrade for Pitt

Agree with Ben back. But will he be in tune you think? And where would you see a high effectiveness with Giants on offense as far as strengths vs Pitt? Does new O scheme with Garret and his liking of more balanced ball control with run attacking help or play to a disadvantage for Giants?
 

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Interesting. Any bits of information towards this? Pass it along and chat it up.


Blair starting at the nickel will be exposed for starters the secondary is bad vs multiple receiver packages..Blair will be a stud.. he's long and hits but I doubt he's ready.
The offensive line is still is a problem and the defensive line isn't going to be better than last year..Bruce Irvin replaces Clowney for instance....Clowney wasn't that impressive but Irvin?

I think the Seahawks give up points this year..
 

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Without a threatening running game it's all on Wilson again....back to that O line and it's long running problems.

I don't like them much this year unless the second year guys step up and the rookies can contribute..Blair for one.
 

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I had to look this up it's been a revolving door on the line.

[h=3]Offensive Line[/h]The 2019 season started with Justin Britt at center, D.J. Fluker at right guard, Germain Ifedi at right tackle and George Fant as the sixth offensive lineman in jumbo packages. Britt is now a free agent while rehabbing from knee surgery, Fluker is a member of the Baltimore Ravens, Ifedi plays for the Chicago Bears and Fant is on the roster of the New York Jets. In their place are projected to be first year starter B.J. Finney at center, rookie Damien Lewis at right guard and Brandon Shell at right tackle. While all of those players certainly have potential, it’s once again a group that will need to show that they can put it together on the field before any judgement is made.
In addition, there are many fans clamoring for either Jamarco Jones or Phil Haynes to be the starter at left guard. If that comes to pass and either of those players is given the nod over Mike Iupati, the Hawks could potentially have three first year starters on the offensive line, which is not exactly a recipe for success. The last time Seattle had three first year starters on the offensive line was 2016 when Fant, Ifedi and Mark Glowinski all graced Seahawks fans with their performances. Other teams that have had three first year starters have included the 2015 New England Patriots and Kansas City Chiefs, teams that were not regarded as having quality line play. Basically, the offensive line group appears to be in much the same position as the defensive line group: loaded with potential, but that potential needs to be realized on the field.
 

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Agree with Ben back. But will he be in tune you think? And where would you see a high effectiveness with Giants on offense as far as strengths vs Pitt? Does new O scheme with Garret and his liking of more balanced ball control with run attacking help or play to a disadvantage for Giants?



I think this game goes under,Pitt games are ugly and a offense like watching paint dry.The Giants will play enough D to hang around,and Ben has been out quite awhile so his accuracy could be off to start the season, Giants also will keep it on the ground with Barkley to try and keep that clock ticking,..JMO


The game i like over is Arizona/49ers as the new offensive additions will score more points this year,and SF has lost some players from last season but will still put up some nice points
 

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I think this game goes under,Pitt games are ugly and a offense like watching paint dry.The Giants will play enough D to hang around,and Ben has been out quite awhile so his accuracy could be off to start the season, Giants also will keep it on the ground with Barkley to try and keep that clock ticking,..JMO


The game i like over is Arizona/49ers as the new offensive additions will score more points this year,and SF has lost some players from last season but will still put up some nice points

Was just getting ready to talk about the Arizona game. Not so much the total though.

Where do you see points from (tempo, run game, pass, defense) and any information/opinions towards Arizona +7-5?

Fire away! All opinions welcomed.
 

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Arizona +7.5

Any nuggets or under the Radar info on these 2 teams?

Both teams bring back coaches on both sides of ball. Familiarity with systems should help. Not a big Jimmy G fan but Shanny is a hell of a coach and his offense is a bit vanilla but excels as he utilized run game with great effectiveness.

Niners- may catch a bit of SB slow start. Wr’s are not a strength and already have a few hurt. O-line is a nice unit. Trent at LT is nice addition but that’s a long time of no football and with a new team. Staley retired. Don’t see a big advantage and I will lean a bit sloppy with both run game and pass as things get under way. I believe the defense takes a step back and may have overachieved a bit last year. They have a few holes imo.

Cards-Back end of defense will be the special unit. May help fill and cover a few holes up front. O-line is okay and Murray bouncing around should help bail them out a few times. Murray with his weapons obviously has some firepower. Kliff kicking up the temp more with Hopkins additions? Like to see if Maxx Williams gets a role. Doesn’t seem like Kidd is a TE guy but he abused teams with Jace Amaro for couple years in college. He has some similar skill sets and size to Maxx.

Offense slight edge Arizona
Defense slight edge Arizona (matchup reasons)

QB Cards
O-LINE Niners
RB Niners
WR Cards

D-Line Niners
LB Cards
Secondary Cards

Advantage to the Cards on offense with tempo, mobility QB and skill at WR. Niners last year from a Defense turnover/sack stand point didn’t do too much if memory serves me correctly. Murray in general did not turn the ball over much at all the entire year. The legs of Murray will extend plays as well as help hide weaknesses on line. Don’t feel Niners Defense will be as productive as expected. And the name and reputation of last years team may be overweighted. Personally feel Cards will fare well this game.

Not sold on Niners offense out the gate. More disciplined and well coached so they will be equipped to challenge imo a weak front of Cards. Personally can’t buy into the WR crew and believe they will be better down the road. Cards secondary is a big advantage in this matchup. With the skill in the back end, they could abuse some 8 in the box fronts due to matchup.

Cards 2-3 TD 2-3 FG
Niners 1-2 TD 3-4 FG

Cards 26
Niners 22
 

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Arizona +7.5

Any nuggets or under the Radar info on these 2 teams?

Both teams bring back coaches on both sides of ball. Familiarity with systems should help. Not a big Jimmy G fan but Shanny is a hell of a coach and his offense is a bit vanilla but excels as he utilized run game with great effectiveness.

Niners- may catch a bit of SB slow start. Wr’s are not a strength and already have a few hurt. O-line is a nice unit. Trent at LT is nice addition but that’s a long time of no football and with a new team. Staley retired. Don’t see a big advantage and I will lean a bit sloppy with both run game and pass as things get under way. I believe the defense takes a step back and may have overachieved a bit last year. They have a few holes imo.

Cards-Back end of defense will be the special unit. May help fill and cover a few holes up front. O-line is okay and Murray bouncing around should help bail them out a few times. Murray with his weapons obviously has some firepower. Kliff kicking up the temp more with Hopkins additions? Like to see if Maxx Williams gets a role. Doesn’t seem like Kidd is a TE guy but he abused teams with Jace Amaro for couple years in college. He has some similar skill sets and size to Maxx.

Offense slight edge Arizona
Defense slight edge Arizona (matchup reasons)

QB Cards
O-LINE Niners
RB Niners
WR Cards

D-Line Niners
LB Cards
Secondary Cards

Advantage to the Cards on offense with tempo, mobility QB and skill at WR. Niners last year from a Defense turnover/sack stand point didn’t do too much if memory serves me correctly. Murray in general did not turn the ball over much at all the entire year. The legs of Murray will extend plays as well as help hide weaknesses on line. Don’t feel Niners Defense will be as productive as expected. And the name and reputation of last years team may be overweighted. Personally feel Cards will fare well this game.

Not sold on Niners offense out the gate. More disciplined and well coached so they will be equipped to challenge imo a weak front of Cards. Personally can’t buy into the WR crew and believe they will be better down the road. Cards secondary is a big advantage in this matchup. With the skill in the back end, they could abuse some 8 in the box fronts due to matchup.

Cards 2-3 TD 2-3 FG
Niners 1-2 TD 3-4 FG

Cards 26
Niners 22

I can definitely see Zona beating the 49ers.......
 

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Arizona +7.5

Any nuggets or under the Radar info on these 2 teams?

Both teams bring back coaches on both sides of ball. Familiarity with systems should help. Not a big Jimmy G fan but Shanny is a hell of a coach and his offense is a bit vanilla but excels as he utilized run game with great effectiveness.

Niners- may catch a bit of SB slow start. Wr’s are not a strength and already have a few hurt. O-line is a nice unit. Trent at LT is nice addition but that’s a long time of no football and with a new team. Staley retired. Don’t see a big advantage and I will lean a bit sloppy with both run game and pass as things get under way. I believe the defense takes a step back and may have overachieved a bit last year. They have a few holes imo.

Cards-Back end of defense will be the special unit. May help fill and cover a few holes up front. O-line is okay and Murray bouncing around should help bail them out a few times. Murray with his weapons obviously has some firepower. Kliff kicking up the temp more with Hopkins additions? Like to see if Maxx Williams gets a role. Doesn’t seem like Kidd is a TE guy but he abused teams with Jace Amaro for couple years in college. He has some similar skill sets and size to Maxx.

Offense slight edge Arizona
Defense slight edge Arizona (matchup reasons)

QB Cards
O-LINE Niners
RB Niners
WR Cards

D-Line Niners
LB Cards
Secondary Cards

Advantage to the Cards on offense with tempo, mobility QB and skill at WR. Niners last year from a Defense turnover/sack stand point didn’t do too much if memory serves me correctly. Murray in general did not turn the ball over much at all the entire year. The legs of Murray will extend plays as well as help hide weaknesses on line. Don’t feel Niners Defense will be as productive as expected. And the name and reputation of last years team may be overweighted. Personally feel Cards will fare well this game.

Not sold on Niners offense out the gate. More disciplined and well coached so they will be equipped to challenge imo a weak front of Cards. Personally can’t buy into the WR crew and believe they will be better down the road. Cards secondary is a big advantage in this matchup. With the skill in the back end, they could abuse some 8 in the box fronts due to matchup.

Cards 2-3 TD 2-3 FG
Niners 1-2 TD 3-4 FG

Cards 26
Niners 22

Nice writeup. You underestimate just how bad AZ’s defense is though.
 

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New year. Better understanding of DC Joseph scheme
2nd year in 3-4 from a 43
added pieces that fit 34 style

Secondary B+
Peterson back and healthy
Murphy will be better because of this
Baker and the Thompson’s at safety are very good
Decent veteran cb depth with adding Kirkpatrick and still have Alford

Linebackers B+
Signed Campbell and Kennard much better fits and upgrades to 34
Simmons rookie is a chess piece
Jones had 20 sacks last year but I expect decline play this year

Dline C-
Signed Phillips big help
Allen is interesting entering 2nd year
All in All this is a big weakness imo and vs the Niners I believe the back 7 cover this up

I call it the Tebow effect.
Tebow Broncos D best in league. Gave up 16 pts
Manning Broncos D worst in league.

In one year the defense went from best to worst in points etc. same defense and better the next year with few new pieces. But an offense that score more will make a defense look worse. Manning team scoring 42 a game. Tebow team scoring 17.

Not comparing Broncos to Cards offense. Or the defense. But Kliff does move an uptempo O. It will lead to better field position and more possessions for opposing teams. And thus making defense not look as good.

It’s week 1. Cards played them close last year. Both games if memory is correct was decided by less than a td. Games were high 20’s I believe. Niners off the SB, CV no preseason somebody may be slow out the gates. Niners offense has some concerns imo. A true weakness at WR leans me towards the strength of Cards and a good chance more 8 fronts and 7 front stacks in the box. Helps vs run and could expose secondary but I don’t feel they have the weapons on that position to do too much damage. George is a freak TE and ole Vance is always know to be weak vs TE in his defense. Rookie or not, Simmons spy’s George entire game if I’m Cards. I’m a huge NFL draft guy, and Simmons is the biggest Xfactor talent I have seen in years. If I were the Giants I take him. Though I mocked Thomas to them and that’s where they went.

If the game was week 5 I may go Niners. But the 7.5 and a very legit shot imo SU for the Cards here. Just my thoughts. Sometimes we are right and sometimes we are wrong.
 

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Arizona is 9-0-1 ATS or 10-0 ATS past 10 vs 49ers depending what line you received the 2nd game they played last year......& Zona is 8-2 SU past 10 vs 49ers but 0-2 SU last year.
 

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I heard some cool info RE: Steelers, Last year there were +15 Above the average TO margin for all teams - Teams that have been successfully generating TO's like that drop on Average 3.5 wins the next year. On top of that Opponents missed 20% of the Fg's against the Steelers this was one of the highest miss rates in the league. Several Steelers had career Seasons on that Defense unlikely they all repeat. Big Ben back in at QB but the Steel City could potentially regress if that Defense sags
 

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Do you expect line to drop further? I'm always worried that just when I make a bet an important player gets injured. On the other hand I don't want to wait till line gets under 7.
 

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New year. Better understanding of DC Joseph scheme
2nd year in 3-4 from a 43
added pieces that fit 34 style

Secondary B+
Peterson back and healthy
Murphy will be better because of this
Baker and the Thompson’s at safety are very good
Decent veteran cb depth with adding Kirkpatrick and still have Alford

Linebackers B+
Signed Campbell and Kennard much better fits and upgrades to 34
Simmons rookie is a chess piece
Jones had 20 sacks last year but I expect decline play this year

Dline C-
Signed Phillips big help
Allen is interesting entering 2nd year
All in All this is a big weakness imo and vs the Niners I believe the back 7 cover this up

I call it the Tebow effect.
Tebow Broncos D best in league. Gave up 16 pts
Manning Broncos D worst in league.

In one year the defense went from best to worst in points etc. same defense and better the next year with few new pieces. But an offense that score more will make a defense look worse. Manning team scoring 42 a game. Tebow team scoring 17.

Not comparing Broncos to Cards offense. Or the defense. But Kliff does move an uptempo O. It will lead to better field position and more possessions for opposing teams. And thus making defense not look as good.

It’s week 1. Cards played them close last year. Both games if memory is correct was decided by less than a td. Games were high 20’s I believe. Niners off the SB, CV no preseason somebody may be slow out the gates. Niners offense has some concerns imo. A true weakness at WR leans me towards the strength of Cards and a good chance more 8 fronts and 7 front stacks in the box. Helps vs run and could expose secondary but I don’t feel they have the weapons on that position to do too much damage. George is a freak TE and ole Vance is always know to be weak vs TE in his defense. Rookie or not, Simmons spy’s George entire game if I’m Cards. I’m a huge NFL draft guy, and Simmons is the biggest Xfactor talent I have seen in years. If I were the Giants I take him. Though I mocked Thomas to them and that’s where they went.

If the game was week 5 I may go Niners. But the 7.5 and a very legit shot imo SU for the Cards here. Just my thoughts. Sometimes we are right and sometimes we are wrong.

I just can’t buy any defense drawn up by Vance Joseph. They Really need Peterson to bounce back after a few consecutive subpar seasons or they will need to score 38ppg to be competitive.
 

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Here is some interesting Tidbits on Green Bay

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4.5 over projected wins ttl
Worst pT differential for a 13 win team in a long time
3rd highest take rate in league
They were extremely healthy all year long and went 6-0 in division

Next Year
Teams that go 6-0 avg 3.3 in division next year
opposing QB and Def schedule much harder in 2020
Despite last years team success OL regressed and should further regress this year
 

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