You can also add in addition to that the 5 FGs DET settled for.. Make 1 TD they win.. Refs did screw them tho..
I had GB -4.. OMG score the TD at the end
after seeing Tout total 10-0 on Over (or whatever it ended at) you “knew” it would end on 45 vs 49
Maybe watched 5 minutes and haven’t seen highlights..
Notoriously Fixed League moniker stays on....sad, I actually used to watch a whole games years ago
TR: So you are saying the NFL fixed the total to be an under? For Vegas? That is a reach if I ever saw one...
- I think the players these days are too strong and way too fast for the refs, and more importantly, the players have found ways to cheat. Eg last night the head snap both times when #90 pushed OL players upper pads (not face) deked refs into assuming it was illegal contact to the face
- I also think, yes, that sometimes a ref will help a team for his own wager, but it is rare.
- I also think, yes, that sometimes a ref (or a few in the same game) are secretly instructed to help one team for better NFL brand recognition, better ratings for the playoffs.
Try officiating a game sometime.
I am as annoyed as anyone else by refs controlling the game, but they are an essential part of the game and their job is more difficult than people imagine.
I tried spotting the ball in a game once and it's amazing how much of a guess it is with everything moving so fast and chaotic - the pro refs still get it right most of the time...
I do agree though that NFL officials should be made full time employees with extra training in the offseason, there is simply too much money on the line.
I am as annoyed as anyone else by refs controlling the game, but they are an essential part of the game and their job is more difficult than people imagine.
I tried spotting the ball in a game once and it's amazing how much of a guess it is with everything moving so fast and chaotic - the pro refs still get it right most of the time...
I do agree though that NFL officials should be made full time employees with extra training in the offseason, there is simply too much money on the line.
They have a good system in College, if any of the calls seem close the replay official takes a look and they seem to end up with the right call, and the game proceeds.
Not rocket science.
I would think that the zebras would like this to protect them from the consequences of making a blatantly obvious bad call, at least obvious to the TV viewers who get the benfit of replay.
Not rocket science.
I would think that the zebras would like this to protect them from the consequences of making a blatantly obvious bad call, at least obvious to the TV viewers who get the benfit of replay.
Hey Serbone,
No, I don’t think that the refs are controlled by Vegas.
I relate all the “conspiracy theories” or “superstitions” to Craps players who “know” when the dice bounce off the table the next roll will be a 7.
We all have short term memory or just remember when “everyone is on Over” but they kicked FG’s all day and whatever caused it to go under.
Like crazykind said it’s not easy to officiate. I’ve done all except football and soccer. You can only call what you see.
With so much coverage, slow mo, and reality that a penalty happens on every play, we gamblers are going to get upset when the break doesn’t go our way.
So what I’ve done to avoid getting too upset over a stupid game is bet little and watch less.
It’s just nice to have games not impacted by so many flags late in a game.
BOL to all remainder of football season.
Agree.
Again, athletes are too strong and fast for the officials these days, and have figured out how to game the system.
Or maybe (sigh) add a few more officials onto the field.
Or maybe increase the penalty yardage for certain infrractions to reduce the NUMBER of penalties in a game.
Eg, certain downs, field postition, yardage and clock/game situations, DBs are rewarded for holding calls (5 yards), it they get away with it, fine, if not, it's only 5 yards.
yup, how many times have we heard 'a hold can be called on every play' and 'that's not PI, that's just hand-fighting' - the rules are subjective and thus will always be subject to controversy
Some teams like the Patriots clearly coach their DBs to walk the line since the reward is so high, and I'm sure linemen are taught sneaky ways to hold etc
Btw, on both of those controversial calls on Trey Flowers last night - i agree he didn't put his hands to the face but he sure as hell had a hold of the guy lol
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