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A more silly idea is the fact that people spend 100K to go to a university and major in business. That PhD academics that have never managed a lemonade stand are somehow business experts that are going to help people get business savvy. I have a business degree and I really don't have the slightest idea about what it was that I was supposed to have learned when I was there. Maybe if I had majored in accounting I would have gotten a specialized trade, but a business degree is a complete joke. College in general is going to be priced out of relevance in the coming years, unless you are going to be a doctor or lawyer.

Wow you are on a roll

This might be the best post I've read in 2015

Absolutely spot on
 

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It won't be priced out but disrupting the current model in terms of cost and quality should definitely happen.

That should happen in a lot of industries that somehow manage to protect themselves and keep the status quo going though. Powers that be tend to be good at protecting their interests.
 

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A more silly idea is the fact that people spend 100K to go to a university and major in business. That PhD academics that have never managed a lemonade stand are somehow business experts that are going to help people get business savvy. I have a business degree and I really don't have the slightest idea about what it was that I was supposed to have learned when I was there. Maybe if I had majored in accounting I would have gotten a specialized trade, but a business degree is a complete joke. College in general is going to be priced out of relevance in the coming years, unless you are going to be a doctor or lawyer.

Excellent post

In the year 2015 and beyond, paying tens (or even hundreds) of thousands of dollars to prepare oneself for a life as an employee seems a very poor ROI

The USA and the Western world in general have frankly raised our standard of living to such a point that there is little reason for employers to pay more than $20-25 an hour for upwards of 90% of Jobs. Both service and manufacturing have been so progressive and streamlined that the pool of people who can do most jobs is large and plentiful.

The days of starting with a company at an entry level of (using 2015 dollars) $10-15 an hour and then reliably seeing pay raises of 3-5% annually for 20-30 years are long gone.

As ILLINI notes, save for specialty professions (medicine, engineering, science&research), choosing a life of being an employee assures one of being very unlikely to ever get paid more than the household average income.

And with regards to medical, the past half century of doctors and medical personnel commanding higher than average incomes is falling to the wayside as the pool of qualified medical personnel is huge and the populace in general is becoming smarter and more able to self-medicate.

As for the theme of the OP by my forum pal ENFUEGO (smile) astutely note, if someone feels grumpy about how much the CEO of a company gets paid, MYOFB

And while you're at it, start your own business and build it to a level where it is producing hundreds of millions in annual revenue. Then lead by example and see to it that you and/or your stockholder elected CEO is paid a more middlin' wage than whatever you originally deemed to be Too Much.
 

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Oh and most certainly if one has been paying any attention to the true financial opportunities of the legal profession in the 21st century, it would be fair to say that spending tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to get a law degree is at best a long shot to lead one to financial independence.

Some of my closest colleagues are long time attorneys and can point to plenty of empirical data showing that the averrage income in first ten years of law school grads is likely in the $500,000 range due to the glut of new law school grads created during the past quarter century
 

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This is the part I don't get. Why not millions and millions? It's their company. They can get paid what they want.

CEO aka Boss don't get either so your not alone Enfuego...... If they shared with their employees who are part of the reason they are successful this probably would mean more everyone. Now if the CEO did all the work themselves then they can have the millions!

Enfuego do you understand now?
 

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CEO aka Boss don't get either so your not alone Enfuego...... If they shared with their employees who are part of the reason they are successful this probably would mean more everyone. Now if the CEO did all the work themselves then they can have the millions!

Enfuego do you understand now?

Uh no. If the CEO/owner is the boss, they can pay themselves what they want. When you own the company, that's what you get to do.

They have workers and pay them accordingly. Just because there are guys that do the actual physical labor, doesn't mean they should make as much money as you. If you didn't create the company, they wouldn't have a job.
 

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Uh no. If the CEO/owner is the boss, they can pay themselves what they want. When you own the company, that's what you get to do.

They have workers and pay them accordingly. Just because there are guys that do the actual physical labor, doesn't mean they should make as much money as you. If you didn't create the company, they wouldn't have a job.

Why are you under the impression that all CEO's are the person who founded the company?
 

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I'm not. I'm talking about the two dudes or one dude that usually make the most money. That's why I said CEO/owner.

I think there a huge difference between the two and it's not really fair to group them together


If someone founded the company (man or woman), they deserve any number they want to pay themselves. I would never complain about that.
 

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Yeah if companies like Nike didn't exist their would be a few less 3rd wolrd labor camps that pay $200 a year

If some RXer was the CEO/Boss seems like America would be losing some more jobs to the strong 3rd wolrd economy of $200 a year with no benefits :ohno:
 

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Wow you are on a roll

This might be the best post I've read in 2015

Absolutely spot on

Um, you claimed to have gone to a top ranked business school. To get an MBA at a top ranked business school it costs more than $100,000.

Care to change your claim you went to a top ranked business school? Or can we just chalk this up as another one of Cruise's lies?
 

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A more silly idea is the fact that people spend 100K to go to a university and major in business. That PhD academics that have never managed a lemonade stand are somehow business experts that are going to help people get business savvy. I have a business degree and I really don't have the slightest idea about what it was that I was supposed to have learned when I was there. Maybe if I had majored in accounting I would have gotten a specialized trade, but a business degree is a complete joke. College in general is going to be priced out of relevance in the coming years, unless you are going to be a doctor or lawyer.

Probably because you didn't go to a good school.

I can tell you that the people teaching in MBA programs are also often consultants and have started and sold businesses.

I love the fact that this fake business school dummy Cruise is agreeing with your utter bullshit.
 

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Um, you claimed to have gone to a top ranked business school. To get an MBA at a top ranked business school it costs more than $100,000.

Care to change your claim you went to a top ranked business school? Or can we just chalk this up as another one of Cruise's lies?

I don't have an MBA (and have never said I did), just an undergrad business degree at a top program and feel exactly the same as Illini. I left college with about 40k of student loan debt, about half of that now. Scholarships,parents, and a summer job assisted on some of the costs. Not sure what I was supposed to learn while I was there. I came out cocky as hell and quickly realized I knew NOTHING about the real business world.

Going to college for a business degree can maybe be justified if you are walking into a family business, maybe. But otherwise it makes a lot more sense to spend that money on something specialized like medicine, engineering, etc.
 

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Of course they deserve more pay then everyone else since they are the boss

But not the millions and millions more than everyone else.

Most of them are pretty clueless, ever seen the show undercover boss?

Please tell us why the CEO of Pepsi or Boeing shouldn't make "millions and millions" more than the guy running the IT department?

Further, tell us which business school taught you these concepts as part of the MBA curriculum? I'm curious.
 

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Probably because you didn't go to a good school.

I can tell you that the people teaching in MBA programs are also often consultants and have started and sold businesses.

I love the fact that this fake business school dummy Cruise is agreeing with your utter bullshit.

Why are you getting so offended by Illni's post?:think2:. Heavy flow this morning?

Anyway, I think an MBA is only worth it if you are working at a company that will saddle the costs and you have a guaranteed significant pay raise/promotion waiting for you upon completion.

A ton of my fellow millennials jumped into an MBA program because they couldn't get a job out of college and this is a huge mistake. Now most of them are underemployed at best. There area lot of late 20's bartenders/substitute teachers out there with an MBA, 100k plus student loan debt, and zero real work experience.
 

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If you don't know what to do with your degree or what is was intended to teach you, that isn't anyone else's fault but your own.

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