Matt Ryan just won the Heisman Trophy

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Heisman trophy winners are typically on winning teams and they have memorable performances.
Stats are usually secondary.

ex: Desmond Howard, Tim Brown, Gino Torretta, Jason White.

That was my point. Right or wrong, Green D is correct on what it takes to win the Heisman. Tebow probably deserves it, but there has been a practice over the years of shunning underclassmen--particularly freshmen and sophomores--in favor of less talented, less deserving juniors and seniors.

Barring disaster, Ryan will win the Heisman. I'm going to drop a few bucks on it later.
 

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That was my point. Right or wrong, Green D is correct on what it takes to win the Heisman. Tebow probably deserves it, but there has been a practice over the years of shunning underclassmen--particularly freshmen and sophomores--in favor of less talented, less deserving juniors and seniors.

Barring disaster, Ryan will win the Heisman. I'm going to drop a few bucks on it later.

3-1 at wsex. I think you are far too optimistic on his chances right now. As mentioned his schedule is pretty tough and its still unlikely BC finishes undefeated. Without an undefeated season he'll have to come up with another moment or two to win.

Tebow is still probably ahead of Ryan at the moment.

My personal choice is Dennis Dixon winning the award (when factoring betting odds). Oregon has a better chance of running the table and he is being slightly overlooked despite the fact his numbers are similar to Tebow's.

Here is the latest Scripps poll;

Complied by the Rocky Mountain News in Denver, the Scripps Poll is the longest-running weekly Heisman poll in the country, in its 21st year. The final poll taken in December correctly has predicted the Heisman winner 17 of the previous 20 seasons.

There are 10 voters, all college football writers and two from each voting region, who vote for five players each week. The tabulations are made on a 5-4-3-2-1 basis, with first place receiving five points, second four, etc. First-place votes are in parentheses.

This week’s poll, with statistics from last week:

Name, Position, School, Last week, Points

1. Tim Tebow, QB, Florida, 18-of-26, 256 yards passing, 4 TDs; 78 rushing, 1 TD, 48 (9).

2. Andre Woodson, QB, Kentucky, 35-of-50, 415 yds passing, 5 TDs, 30

3. Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College, did not play, 29 (1).

4. Dennis Dixon, QB, Oregon, 19-of-30, 196 yds passing, 1 TD; 99 rushing, 1 TD, 20.

Others receiving votes: Darren McFadden (RB, Arkansas) 4; Ray Rice (RB, Rutgers) 4; Chase Daniel (QB, Missouri) 3; Mike Hart (RB, Michigan) 2; James Laurinaitis (LB, Ohio State) 2; Jonathan Stewart (RB, Oregon) 2; Brian Brohm (QB, Louisville) 1; Michael Crabtree (WR, Texas Tech) 1; Graham Harrell (QB, Texas Tech) 1; Jeremy Maclin (WR, Missouri) 1; Steve Slaton (RB, West Virginia) 1; Pat White (QB, West Virginia) 1.

Voters: Wendell Barnhouse (Fort Worth Star-Telegram); Kirk Bohls (Austin American-Statesman); Dennis Dodd (CBSSports.com); Vahe Gregorian (St. Louis Post-Dispatch); Mike Griffith (Knoxville News-Sentinel); Randy Holtz (Rocky Mountain News); Michael Lewis (Salt Lake Tribune); Tom Luicci (The (Newark) Star-Ledger); Dana O’Neil (Philadelphia Daily News); and John Rohde (The Oklahoman).
 

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Ryan gets the Heisman for this performance? No.

Last play of the game VTech rushes 3 and still allows a receiver to get behind them in the endzone. Coaches never to seem to learn.
 

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Ryan sucked ass for 58 minutes and then gets a gift on the chokies playing zone and picking up and onside kick. Next thing I know I flip back to the world series and they are putting a comparison of Ryan to Tom Brady up on the screen. Makes no sense. Sports are a fucking joke and Ryan didn't earn anything last night.
 

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Don't know if Ryan is the front runner, but Tebow with 2 loses under his belt and a 12-26 performance against LSU in a lose certainly isn't rising to a Heisman deserving level. Tebow threw for less then 200yds at home against Auburn in another losing performance.
 

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tebow has also played against men while ryan has the womans schedule.
still think hart is as good as anyone in the country.
 

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Enjoy watching Tebow play. If Fla runs the table and beats LSU in the SEC Championship he's the runaway winner. If not and he doesn't get hurt running full force into SEC defenses he still should get it. His schedule is much tougher than either Ryan or Harts.
 

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No question. Ryan's done. Dixon of Oregon is hurt, also.
 

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Can we officially put the Ryan for Heisman hype to bed?

its now Dixon, McFadden, or Tebow
 

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Dont forget Booty. Big win by them today...

Mark May and Kirk Herbstreit will vote for Booty. So funny to look back on these threads and see how many over-emotional sheep jump the gun because ESPN feeds them something. Ryan played a horrific 58 minutes vs VT
 

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Someone made a great point that if OSU wins the table that James Lauranitis should get some attention. Dude has been an absolute tackling machine and the best defensive player in the country.
 

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you guys check out that RB from Central Florida last Sun. night? if he rec'd more media, he'd win the Heisman.
 

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