hno:
bostonbettor said it best...manny had already checked out of the hotel...he already had shown he wasnt gonna give an effort...he was timed running (errr i mean trotting to 1st base) in 5seconds...
the red sox had to trade him...they had no choice but to get him out of boston...they have already shown they arent gonna overpay like the nyy do...his option wasnt being picked up...manny had a hair across his ass and was done playing for them....
i was out in the city last night so i really dont know all about the trade what i would like to know is how many years are left on bay's contact and how much is he making...
manny was one of my fav players on the team and i agree with what fishhead said about past redsox not delivering WS's titles and manny did bring us 2 so i wish him the best wherever he ends up next year
...having said all that Pittsburgh was the biggest winner on this trade...
the red sox had to trade him...they had no choice but to get him out of boston...they have already shown they arent gonna overpay like the nyy do...his option wasnt being picked up...manny had a hair across his ass and was done playing for them....
i was out in the city last night so i really dont know all about the trade what i would like to know is how many years are left on bay's contact and how much is he making...
manny was one of my fav players on the team and i agree with what fishhead said about past redsox not delivering WS's titles and manny did bring us 2 so i wish him the best wherever he ends up next year
...having said all that Pittsburgh was the biggest winner on this trade...
My 2 cents.
IMHO The Red Sox are better off getting rid of a player that was everything you don't want in a leader or even the last man on your bench. He was and will continue to be a detriment in the clubhouse and everywhere else in LA.
History sometimes, as many know repeats itself, Boston dumped Nomar Garciaparra on July 31st 2004 to the Chicago Cubs, they received Orlando Cabrera and Doug Mientkiewicz in return and won the World Series that fall. Omar was not even close to the negative influence Manny has turned into this summer.
I am not predicting Boston will win the WS again this season (although anything could happen) but Boston ownership bit the bullet and did what they had to do. In the end, Manny had few friends in his own clubhouse and much of the fan base had turned against him. Which should come as no surprise when you see him use 5 seconds to run out grounders, stand there in a cruical game and take three straight called strikes to end a one run run game with the tieing run on third against Mariano Rivera as a pinch hitter because it was his day off.
Throwing the 64 year old team traveling secretary Jack McKormack to the ground when his request at the last minute for an impossible to find number of tickets at a sold out ballpark was not granted. Slapping fellow player Kevin Youkilis in the dugout for being upset after he made an out. However the worst sin of all is to not give your best effort on the field of play when the other 24 guys around you are giving theirs.
Who is going to miss his mystery injuries and lame excuses for not playing, Terry Francona won't - I know that for sure. Natrually losing his bat will hurt but Boston on the field but this is a great franchise that has a fan base second to none and they will carry on, just like they did post Nomar and post Pedro, post Clemens etc etc..
As a baseball fan for over 50 years (not just a Red Sox fan) to me Manny's way of behaving on and off the baseball field this summer has been an insult most importantly to the game itself, followed by the fans both for or against him. His antics have also been an insult to the 1,000 or so other major league ballplayers that play the game with hustle and pride game in and game out currently on big league rosters and finally to the tens of thousands of players who came before him in over a century of major league baseball that made the game so great, not to mention possible for players to earn $20M per season as Manny is doing...
If this season is lost for Boston so be it, they will be back with a fine team next year and for years to come. Regardless of what Jason Bay does as a Red Sox, he is a huge improvement over the almost tragic, greedy and finger pointing figure Manny had become. Crying to all that would listen that Boston did not deserve him. Well lets see how Joe Torre and The Dodgers, another great and storied franchise enjoy Manny.
Boston paid dearly to dump Manny but in the end if you ask me it will turn out to be a bargain.
wil.
IMHO The Red Sox are better off getting rid of a player that was everything you don't want in a leader or even the last man on your bench. He was and will continue to be a detriment in the clubhouse and everywhere else in LA.
History sometimes, as many know repeats itself, Boston dumped Nomar Garciaparra on July 31st 2004 to the Chicago Cubs, they received Orlando Cabrera and Doug Mientkiewicz in return and won the World Series that fall. Omar was not even close to the negative influence Manny has turned into this summer.
I am not predicting Boston will win the WS again this season (although anything could happen) but Boston ownership bit the bullet and did what they had to do. In the end, Manny had few friends in his own clubhouse and much of the fan base had turned against him. Which should come as no surprise when you see him use 5 seconds to run out grounders, stand there in a cruical game and take three straight called strikes to end a one run run game with the tieing run on third against Mariano Rivera as a pinch hitter because it was his day off.
Throwing the 64 year old team traveling secretary Jack McKormack to the ground when his request at the last minute for an impossible to find number of tickets at a sold out ballpark was not granted. Slapping fellow player Kevin Youkilis in the dugout for being upset after he made an out. However the worst sin of all is to not give your best effort on the field of play when the other 24 guys around you are giving theirs.
Who is going to miss his mystery injuries and lame excuses for not playing, Terry Francona won't - I know that for sure. Natrually losing his bat will hurt but Boston on the field but this is a great franchise that has a fan base second to none and they will carry on, just like they did post Nomar and post Pedro, post Clemens etc etc..
As a baseball fan for over 50 years (not just a Red Sox fan) to me Manny's way of behaving on and off the baseball field this summer has been an insult most importantly to the game itself, followed by the fans both for or against him. His antics have also been an insult to the 1,000 or so other major league ballplayers that play the game with hustle and pride game in and game out currently on big league rosters and finally to the tens of thousands of players who came before him in over a century of major league baseball that made the game so great, not to mention possible for players to earn $20M per season as Manny is doing...
If this season is lost for Boston so be it, they will be back with a fine team next year and for years to come. Regardless of what Jason Bay does as a Red Sox, he is a huge improvement over the almost tragic, greedy and finger pointing figure Manny had become. Crying to all that would listen that Boston did not deserve him. Well lets see how Joe Torre and The Dodgers, another great and storied franchise enjoy Manny.
Boston paid dearly to dump Manny but in the end if you ask me it will turn out to be a bargain.
wil.
