hno: I am not too big on these numbers ( but I believe the more we know, the better we should be able to select a few of these horses, right ),....so here are the Class and Race Ratings for the past few races leading up to the Derby for the possible entries.....................Average Ratings for ................RR..............................CR
..........Black Onyx................................115.3.........................116.6
..........Charming Kitten.........................116.3.........................118.6
..........Code West................................116.6.........................118.6
..........Falling Sky................................116.3..........................119.3
..........Frac Daddy...............................118.0..........................117.3
..........Golden Soul.............................116.6...........................118.3
..........Goldencents.............................117.3..........................120.6
..........Governor Charlie.......................114.6..........................117.6
..........Itsmyluckyday..........................117.3..........................122.0
..........Javas War................................116.6..........................118.3
..........Lines of Battle..........................116.3..........................117.6
..........Mylute.....................................116.0..........................119.3
..........Normandy Invasion...................117.0..........................120.6
...........Orb........................................117.3..........................121.3
...........Overanalyze............................117.3..........................120.3.
...........Oxbow...................................116.6..........................120.6
...........Palace Malice............................117.3.........................119.6
...........Revolutionary..........................115.3.........................120.0
...........Super Ninety Nine....................117.3.........................119.3
...........Tiz A Minister...........................117.0........................119.3
...........Verrazano...............................117.3.........................122.3
............Vyjack....................................117.0........................120.0
............Will Take Charge......................116.3........................118.3
I can almost smell the roses........................
:howdy: Now here we go with one of my favorite numbers to look at when deciding how to cap the Derby.............. The Late Pace numbers.................
If you like the closers...........and are looking for the runners that fit into this criteria.....enjoy...............
Highest Late Pace Number that the possible entries have posted as a 3 year old
Tiz A Minister.....................118
Normandy Invasion.............114
Vyjack...............................112
Javas War..........................110
Verrazano..........................108
Orb...................................105
Charming Kitten..................104
Itsmyluckyday....................102
Revolutionary.....................102
Golden Soul.......................100
Governor Charlie.................99
Palace Malice.......................99
Overanalyze.......................98
Goldencents.......................97
Mylute...............................96
Black Onyx........................94
Oxbow..............................94
Super Ninety Nine...............94
Will take Charge.................94
Code West........................92
Falling Sky.........................90
Lines of Battle....................81
Frac Daddy........................81
Absolutely love looking at this number, as I am always looking for the late charger coming down the stretch in the Derby.......................
My Late Pace Numbers for the possible entries..............
Normandy Invasion..................110.0
Tiz A Minister..........................107.3
Vyjack....................................104.6
Verrazano...............................102.0
Javas War...............................101.3
Itsmyluckyday..........................99.3
Orb.........................................99.0
Revolutionary...........................97.0
Overanalyze.............................97.0
Mylute.....................................96.6
Charming Kitten.......................93.3
Governor Charlie......................93.0
Golden Soul.............................92.6
Palace Malice............................89.3
Oxbow....................................88.0
Goldencents............................87.0
Code West..............................86.0
Will Take Charge......................85.6
Falling Sky..............................83.3
Super Ninety Nine....................81.3
Black Onyx.............................79.3
Frac Daddy.............................77.0
The horses at the top of this list are the ones most likely to be charging coming down the strecth and the last 1/8 mile............ love it...........
Be well all...................talk to you soon............
If you like the closers...........and are looking for the runners that fit into this criteria.....enjoy...............
Highest Late Pace Number that the possible entries have posted as a 3 year old
Tiz A Minister.....................118
Normandy Invasion.............114
Vyjack...............................112
Javas War..........................110
Verrazano..........................108
Orb...................................105
Charming Kitten..................104
Itsmyluckyday....................102
Revolutionary.....................102
Golden Soul.......................100
Governor Charlie.................99
Palace Malice.......................99
Overanalyze.......................98
Goldencents.......................97
Mylute...............................96
Black Onyx........................94
Oxbow..............................94
Super Ninety Nine...............94
Will take Charge.................94
Code West........................92
Falling Sky.........................90
Lines of Battle....................81
Frac Daddy........................81
Absolutely love looking at this number, as I am always looking for the late charger coming down the stretch in the Derby.......................
My Late Pace Numbers for the possible entries..............
Normandy Invasion..................110.0
Tiz A Minister..........................107.3
Vyjack....................................104.6
Verrazano...............................102.0
Javas War...............................101.3
Itsmyluckyday..........................99.3
Orb.........................................99.0
Revolutionary...........................97.0
Overanalyze.............................97.0
Mylute.....................................96.6
Charming Kitten.......................93.3
Governor Charlie......................93.0
Golden Soul.............................92.6
Palace Malice............................89.3
Oxbow....................................88.0
Goldencents............................87.0
Code West..............................86.0
Will Take Charge......................85.6
Falling Sky..............................83.3
Super Ninety Nine....................81.3
Black Onyx.............................79.3
Frac Daddy.............................77.0
The horses at the top of this list are the ones most likely to be charging coming down the strecth and the last 1/8 mile............ love it...........
Be well all...................talk to you soon............
the horse we know nothing about is lines of battle who won the 2 million dollar stakes in dubai who is going to tackle the dirt track at churchill. the europeans have never won the derby and the us has never won the dubai classic until this year do the europeans have a sleeper this year at churchhill? i will definitely use him along with java"s war and normandy invasion this year
I am thinking the "BEST" horse is NOT going to win the 139th Kentucky Derby.
On another scary note. Churchill Downs Racetrack will strengthen security and hospitality policies and expand screenings for patrons, employees and vendors who will enter the track for the 139th runnings of the Kentucky Oaks on May 3rd and the Kentucky Derby on May 4th.
Because, as of this posting, Watertown Mass. Police, FBI, Homeland Security, and helicopters doing air survailance, cannot corral a 19 year old terriorist.....who in the US is helping this kid. ??
On another scary note. Churchill Downs Racetrack will strengthen security and hospitality policies and expand screenings for patrons, employees and vendors who will enter the track for the 139th runnings of the Kentucky Oaks on May 3rd and the Kentucky Derby on May 4th.
Because, as of this posting, Watertown Mass. Police, FBI, Homeland Security, and helicopters doing air survailance, cannot corral a 19 year old terriorist.....who in the US is helping this kid. ??
im looking for all the help i can get for this race as i have not followed any horse racing at all this year.im not up to date on any of the horses involved so ill be asking for some good advice on who to go with as we get closer to race day.
i appreciate all who share their information in this thread
i appreciate all who share their information in this thread
Workout updates....
Verrazano breezed 5F in 1:00.20 @ Churchill on 4-21.......Rank 3/40
Revolutionary breezed 4F in :48.80 @ Churchill on 4-21....Rank 22/81
Mylute breezed 4F in :47.80 @ Churchill on 4-21..,,,,,,,,,,..Rank 2/81
Vyjack breezed 4F in :51.60 @ Fair Hill on 4-19................Rank 11/11
Verrazano breezed 5F in 1:00.20 @ Churchill on 4-21.......Rank 3/40
Revolutionary breezed 4F in :48.80 @ Churchill on 4-21....Rank 22/81
Mylute breezed 4F in :47.80 @ Churchill on 4-21..,,,,,,,,,,..Rank 2/81
Vyjack breezed 4F in :51.60 @ Fair Hill on 4-19................Rank 11/11
:think2: Here are some numbers from the Brisnet Past performances......... they are the Run Styles of the horses and the Early Speed Points.......... I normally do not like the early pace setters for this kind of race, bit I think that is obvious. So here we go.........................
..........................................Brisnet Run Styles........Early Speed Points
..........Black Onyx.............................P........................4
..........Charming Kitten.................................................
..........Code West...........................E/P.......................7
..........Falling Sky............................E/P.......................8
..........Frac Daddy.......................................................
..........Golden Soul..........................S..........................2
..........Goldencents.........................E/P........................8
..........Governor Charlie...................E/P........................5
..........Itsmyluckyday.......................E/P.......................6
..........Javas War..............................P.........................2
..........Lines of Battle........................P.........................4
..........Mylute..................................E/P.......................4
..........Normandy Invasion.................S........................2
...........Orb......................................P........................2
...........Overanalyze.........................E/P......................5
...........Oxbow.................................E........................6
...........Palace Malice........................E/P.......................4
...........Revolutionary........................S.......................3
...........Super Ninety Nine..................E.......................7
...........Tiz A Minister........................S......................
...........Verrazano...........................E/P......................7
............Vyjack...............................E/P......................4
............Will Take Charge..................P........................3
E - early run style
E/P - lay behind the pacesetter
P - middle of the pack
S - back of the pack closer
Early Speed Points range from a low of 0 to a high of 8, the higher the number the more early speed the horse shows at the first call.....
....................... Less than 2 weeks to go...............................be well all.............
..........................................Brisnet Run Styles........Early Speed Points
..........Black Onyx.............................P........................4
..........Charming Kitten.................................................
..........Code West...........................E/P.......................7
..........Falling Sky............................E/P.......................8
..........Frac Daddy.......................................................
..........Golden Soul..........................S..........................2
..........Goldencents.........................E/P........................8
..........Governor Charlie...................E/P........................5
..........Itsmyluckyday.......................E/P.......................6
..........Javas War..............................P.........................2
..........Lines of Battle........................P.........................4
..........Mylute..................................E/P.......................4
..........Normandy Invasion.................S........................2
...........Orb......................................P........................2
...........Overanalyze.........................E/P......................5
...........Oxbow.................................E........................6
...........Palace Malice........................E/P.......................4
...........Revolutionary........................S.......................3
...........Super Ninety Nine..................E.......................7
...........Tiz A Minister........................S......................
...........Verrazano...........................E/P......................7
............Vyjack...............................E/P......................4
............Will Take Charge..................P........................3
E - early run style
E/P - lay behind the pacesetter
P - middle of the pack
S - back of the pack closer
Early Speed Points range from a low of 0 to a high of 8, the higher the number the more early speed the horse shows at the first call.....
....................... Less than 2 weeks to go...............................be well all.............
:think2: OK, here are some more 'numbers or stats' that I lie to look at , the number of Grade I races which each horse has run in, and if the horse's last race was in April................
................................. # G1 Races Run........Last Race Run Was In April
...........Black Onyx.....................0........................no
..........Charming Kitten...............2........................yes
..........Code West......................0........................no
..........Falling Sky.......................1.......................yes
..........Frac Daddy......................2.......................yes
..........Golden Soul.....................0.......................no
..........Goldencents.....................2......................yes
..........Governor Charlie...............0......................no
..........Itsmyluckyday...................1......................no
..........Javas War.........................2.....................yes
..........Lines of Battle...................1......................no
..........Mylute..............................0......................no
..........Normandy Invasion............1.....................yes
...........Orb.................................1......................no
...........Overanalyze.....................1.....................yes
...........Oxbow............................1.....................yes
...........Palace Malice.....................1.....................yes
...........Revolutionary...................0......................no
...........Super Ninety Nine.............1.....................yes
...........Tiz A Minister...................1.....................yes
...........Verrazano........................1.....................yes
............Vyjack............................1.....................yes
............Will Take Charge..............0......................no
................................. # G1 Races Run........Last Race Run Was In April
...........Black Onyx.....................0........................no
..........Charming Kitten...............2........................yes
..........Code West......................0........................no
..........Falling Sky.......................1.......................yes
..........Frac Daddy......................2.......................yes
..........Golden Soul.....................0.......................no
..........Goldencents.....................2......................yes
..........Governor Charlie...............0......................no
..........Itsmyluckyday...................1......................no
..........Javas War.........................2.....................yes
..........Lines of Battle...................1......................no
..........Mylute..............................0......................no
..........Normandy Invasion............1.....................yes
...........Orb.................................1......................no
...........Overanalyze.....................1.....................yes
...........Oxbow............................1.....................yes
...........Palace Malice.....................1.....................yes
...........Revolutionary...................0......................no
...........Super Ninety Nine.............1.....................yes
...........Tiz A Minister...................1.....................yes
...........Verrazano........................1.....................yes
............Vyjack............................1.....................yes
............Will Take Charge..............0......................no
