I joined the Prescription almost 3-months ago, in between these 3-months I cant count on both of my hands how many times a #1 poster would complain about a book, that they did this or that or whatever. the General never once turned his back on none of them, his famous words shoot me an EMAIL. everybody is replying to the issue, because all is concerned. so many things happen that I dont hear on the streets, but I do hear on the Prescription. people need to realize nothing in life is a GURANTEE. all the TEA in China couldnt keep me away from the Prescription, its a BLESSING for me. on the streets over the years I use to hear the famous words his MONEY is good as GOLD.before I start reading the Prescription I would say give me the GOLD...
John,
Here are the reasons :
WWTS has undergone tremendous changes these past months. One of the things we've BOTH noticed is that WWTS no longer segregates players funds, as we BOTH saw reading their financials. BCN Sports has a separate players escrow account audited by a third party on regular basis.
FYI I am in the process of reviewing some ratings, including WWTS.
Legendz has the same business model of VIP, that you rate A+. they both cater the recreational market and don't hide the fact that wise action is not welcome there.
Pinnacle is one of the best books out there as far as content, risk management, booking skills and payout go, yet their customer service has room for improvement, contrary to Legendz and VIP which both have a great cs.
Fish, TOW has three sponsors. You may wish to check the site, none of them is Legendz nor a book operated by Legendz.
Lastly, let me briefly mention a recent case. Intertops went into an admitted slowpay mode a few weeks ago. You maintained their rating (B+) for a while, despite the situation, until I provided you guys proof that Itops had lied to you.
No one is perfect, and we all make mistakes. Being capable of admitting our own mistakes instead of covering them up is a sign of strenght, not a sign of weakness.
Peace.
Here are the reasons :
WWTS has undergone tremendous changes these past months. One of the things we've BOTH noticed is that WWTS no longer segregates players funds, as we BOTH saw reading their financials. BCN Sports has a separate players escrow account audited by a third party on regular basis.
FYI I am in the process of reviewing some ratings, including WWTS.
Legendz has the same business model of VIP, that you rate A+. they both cater the recreational market and don't hide the fact that wise action is not welcome there.
Pinnacle is one of the best books out there as far as content, risk management, booking skills and payout go, yet their customer service has room for improvement, contrary to Legendz and VIP which both have a great cs.
Fish, TOW has three sponsors. You may wish to check the site, none of them is Legendz nor a book operated by Legendz.
Lastly, let me briefly mention a recent case. Intertops went into an admitted slowpay mode a few weeks ago. You maintained their rating (B+) for a while, despite the situation, until I provided you guys proof that Itops had lied to you.
No one is perfect, and we all make mistakes. Being capable of admitting our own mistakes instead of covering them up is a sign of strenght, not a sign of weakness.
Peace.
TOW---
In all seriousness, if you asked 600 seasoned offshore wiseguy bettors/industry insiders/forum owners/square bettors/gerbils/canarys.......... how many would rate LEGENDZ ahead of PINNACLE?
Having answered that question honesty, how can a man in your semi-high offshore position rate Legendz higher?
They do not cater to WISE GUY action and make this clear, therefore they rate higher than Pinnacle?
Wow!
Oh well, this strange rating comparison between Pinnacle and Legendz is giving you publicity, so that is good for you.
---FISH---
In all seriousness, if you asked 600 seasoned offshore wiseguy bettors/industry insiders/forum owners/square bettors/gerbils/canarys.......... how many would rate LEGENDZ ahead of PINNACLE?
Having answered that question honesty, how can a man in your semi-high offshore position rate Legendz higher?
They do not cater to WISE GUY action and make this clear, therefore they rate higher than Pinnacle?
Wow!
Oh well, this strange rating comparison between Pinnacle and Legendz is giving you publicity, so that is good for you.
---FISH---
We like to measure twice and cut once. We lowered Intertops when it was clear there was a reason to. You had SportsInteraction AND Dimeplayer rated as good books. SBR had them as D's so when the slow pays started we didn't have to adjust our ratings, they were already correct. I don't see you complaining about those?LOL Get your ratings right and you won't have to change them much.
And btw, WWTS is soooo much stronger than BCN Sports Roberto. Who in Gods name do you really think you are fooling???
Tow, please dont tell nobody SMART that you have Legendz rated ahead of Pinnacle. they will laugh right in your face. if you said you rated OLYMPIC ahead of PINNACLE I couldnt argue with you. PLEASE think before you say something stupid like that. or BCN ahead of WWTS if my memory is correct BCN hasnt even had a Birthday yet. I let you figure that out about the birthday.
TOW--You do not receive money for being an AFFLIATE for Legendz?
If not........ why not?
Thanks,
--FISH--
Commission Structure
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=160>Net Monthly Revenue
</TD><TD>Your Percentage
</TD></TR><TR><TD>$1 to $25,000
</TD><TD>20%
</TD></TR><TR><TD>$25,000-$50,000
</TD><TD>25%
</TD></TR><TR><TD>$50,000 +
</TD><TD>35%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Let us use for example that over a period of time you have referred 28 players to LegendzSports.com. Last month your players generated $50,100 of revenue for the Sportsbook and Casino. With the 35% commission structure, you would earn $17,535 for the month ($50,100 x .35%).
That is $17,535 we pay you for one month of net revenue! As you can imagine, the longer you are an affiliate and as your referral numbers increase, so will your profits. The income potential is truly unlimited. All you have to do is direct the player to our programs, and we do all the work!
You are paid ON TIME every month! We value every affiliate and understand that receiving your payments on time is very important. You will never be left waiting for a payout from Legendz Sports Affiliates. If you ever have any questions, comments, or concerns regarding payments, please do not hesitate to contact us at: customer_service@legendzsports.com
If not........ why not?
Thanks,
--FISH--
Commission Structure
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=160>Net Monthly Revenue
</TD><TD>Your Percentage
</TD></TR><TR><TD>$1 to $25,000
</TD><TD>20%
</TD></TR><TR><TD>$25,000-$50,000
</TD><TD>25%
</TD></TR><TR><TD>$50,000 +
</TD><TD>35%
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Example of your earnings:
Let us use for example that over a period of time you have referred 28 players to LegendzSports.com. Last month your players generated $50,100 of revenue for the Sportsbook and Casino. With the 35% commission structure, you would earn $17,535 for the month ($50,100 x .35%).
That is $17,535 we pay you for one month of net revenue! As you can imagine, the longer you are an affiliate and as your referral numbers increase, so will your profits. The income potential is truly unlimited. All you have to do is direct the player to our programs, and we do all the work!
*Important Note: You are paid ON TIME every month! We value every affiliate and understand that receiving your payments on time is very important. You will never be left waiting for a payout from Legendz Sports Affiliates. If you ever have any questions, comments, or concerns regarding payments, please do not hesitate to contact us at: customer_service@legendzsports.com
Fish,
How many of these 600 people would have rated ACES GOLD ahead of lets say..BCN ? I'd say 599 at least....
DOn't get me wrong, I understand where you're coming from and respect your opinion, yet my attention is usually more focused on financial stability as main criteria, then content, booking skills, risk management, customer service.
I honestly believe I have disclosed why there is a MINIMAL difference in ratings. John makes it sound like if it were the end of the world, yet a + for top level books is a mere reward for a sign of distinction, and usually customer service is the determining factor for that.
Lastly...I have Hollywood at 10+, John has it as an A. His opinion, my opinion....bottomline Holly is a top notch book.
How many of these 600 people would have rated ACES GOLD ahead of lets say..BCN ? I'd say 599 at least....
DOn't get me wrong, I understand where you're coming from and respect your opinion, yet my attention is usually more focused on financial stability as main criteria, then content, booking skills, risk management, customer service.
I honestly believe I have disclosed why there is a MINIMAL difference in ratings. John makes it sound like if it were the end of the world, yet a + for top level books is a mere reward for a sign of distinction, and usually customer service is the determining factor for that.
Lastly...I have Hollywood at 10+, John has it as an A. His opinion, my opinion....bottomline Holly is a top notch book.
No one here can deny that the Rx had a habit of some pretty blantant censorism in the past. Anyone who followed the "vanishing threads" Bodog situation is well aware of that.
During the last few months, it seems that the Rx has taken a much more lenient approach and is not being nearly as blatant in their protection of advertisers. This is definitely a step in the right direction.
Also, I really hope that no one here is ignorant enough to believe that a site's advertisers are not going to get some kind of preferential treatment from that site & it's staff.
During the last few months, it seems that the Rx has taken a much more lenient approach and is not being nearly as blatant in their protection of advertisers. This is definitely a step in the right direction.
Also, I really hope that no one here is ignorant enough to believe that a site's advertisers are not going to get some kind of preferential treatment from that site & it's staff.
Fish,
I believe affiliate deals weaken sites' position.
If you run affiliate deals ( nothing wrong with that ) you will always tend to grant your "business partners" a more positive image. On the other hand, when your business partner is having troubles you may end up being somehow "invited" not to expose them, with an obvious leverage on owed commissions .
None of my "Elite Books" has a sponsorship agreement with my site, let alone an affiliate deal. It is my opinion that they are Elite. Some may argue, some may disagree, bottomline my opinion on these books is by no means influenced by any kind of "deal".
I believe affiliate deals weaken sites' position.
If you run affiliate deals ( nothing wrong with that ) you will always tend to grant your "business partners" a more positive image. On the other hand, when your business partner is having troubles you may end up being somehow "invited" not to expose them, with an obvious leverage on owed commissions .
None of my "Elite Books" has a sponsorship agreement with my site, let alone an affiliate deal. It is my opinion that they are Elite. Some may argue, some may disagree, bottomline my opinion on these books is by no means influenced by any kind of "deal".
TOW said:
If thats the case how can 99.9% people know for a FACT that Pinnacle is that far above LegendZ and 999.9% also know that WWTS is the same over BCN, and you think DIFFERENT of both. not a very good % to go by, thats for sure. I sure wouldnt want to go in with you in either spot. I"m not saying that either one dont pay, but thats RIDICULOUS to even compare. A dummy knows thats a no brainer.
Fish,
Honestly speaking affiliate deals is not an area of my concern, and therefore I have little information on who provides the best deals.
My advice to the ones that would like to start affiliate deals would be to look for books who offer a percentage on volume rather than net losses.
Rainbow :
I explained the criteria on which those differences are based. Let me try to explain myself in a different way.
From a player's perpective no one, I say NO ONE, would have dared to question Betpanam two years ago. As a matter of fact the book was praised and considered to become the next Pinnacle.
It is my opinion that they might have even succeeded. Their weak point was in their financials, not booking skills, not marketing skills, not risk management, not customer service. Everything was indicating that Betpanam COULD have become the next Pinnacle.
Unfortunately their financials were a disaster. No one knew until AFTER the fact.
Having said that I am more than certain that if anyone would have dared to post a negative comment about them in the fall of 2003 ....99.9% would have posted the contrary.
Honestly speaking affiliate deals is not an area of my concern, and therefore I have little information on who provides the best deals.
My advice to the ones that would like to start affiliate deals would be to look for books who offer a percentage on volume rather than net losses.
Rainbow :
I explained the criteria on which those differences are based. Let me try to explain myself in a different way.
From a player's perpective no one, I say NO ONE, would have dared to question Betpanam two years ago. As a matter of fact the book was praised and considered to become the next Pinnacle.
It is my opinion that they might have even succeeded. Their weak point was in their financials, not booking skills, not marketing skills, not risk management, not customer service. Everything was indicating that Betpanam COULD have become the next Pinnacle.
Unfortunately their financials were a disaster. No one knew until AFTER the fact.
Having said that I am more than certain that if anyone would have dared to post a negative comment about them in the fall of 2003 ....99.9% would have posted the contrary.
