Just Started Reading a Book Called "Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became one of America's Leading Atheists"

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This should clear everything up:


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very interesting. for every logical argument made against the folks who believe in God, these folks have offered a logical rebuttal.....

Festering Zit vs Death Eats A Cracker in a heated debate on the local religious channel is a program i would PAY to see

And you wouldn't want to see me in this debate too?? I think I add some good points to these threads, LOL!
 

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deac and zit have a pretty good history of going back and forth.....some classic quotes from those 2

"you shut your whore mouth" being my most recent favorite
 
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deac and zit have a pretty good history of going back and forth.....some classic quotes from those 2

"you shut your whore mouth" being my most recent favorite

DEAC said that when I intimated that his favorite show possibly contributed to violence in society (Dexter).

I was slightly amused at that response myself...
 

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"there was nothing and nothing happened" POOF, shit just happened! I find it stupid that we are talkin' about this on a gambling forum. If someone where to come in and drop some actual facts the other point would just dismiss them, yet you guys feel compelled to argue your point. I believe what I believe and you believe what you believe, awesome. Have a nice night and get over it.
 

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and the moment i saw that thread from you -- which was something like 2 seconds after deac stated how much he liked dexter -- i thought@)
 

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our someone can refer to some random book that two people read and he/she can feel smarter about their side of the arguement.
 

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"there was nothing and nothing happened" POOF, shit just happened! I find it stupid that we are talkin' about this on a gambling forum. If someone where to come in and drop some actual facts the other point would just dismiss them, yet you guys feel compelled to argue your point. I believe what I believe and you believe what you believe, awesome. Have a nice night and get over it.

You sound fat.
 

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very interesting. for every logical argument made against the folks who believe in God, these folks have offered a logical rebuttal.....

Festering Zit vs Death Eats A Cracker in a heated debate on the local religious channel is a program i would PAY to see

Only because there's no way that it could happen without erupting into a cage match.
 

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I'll make one someday. I won't have a lot of vacation left after spending 13 days in Thailand.

Now back to yelling at each other.
 

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i can understand why Christians, Jews, Muslims, Budhists etc would want to spread their word or beliefs to non-believers or anyone for that matter. And that is to spread the word of their God and possibly get the non-believers to "heaven" or whatever that religion sees as the afterlife.

I don't understand, however, why non-believers (atheists) want to spread their thinking. What good are you doing for someone if you are wrong? Why is it imprtant for an atheist to make everyone non-believers?

it also seem's when talking to one of these atheist most of them seem to be so bitter and angry toward's those who choose to believe in their faith of choice....i have never been angry w a non believer and it make's no sense to me what so ever to do so.....i feel like alot of them must of had a really bad experience early in their live's. to each their own...
 

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What I dont understand is how non believers make fun of the believers based on having "faith" as the core reasons for believing in Christ.
When at the same time it also takes "faith" to believe in evolution.

There is no science to back evolution other then some guy who came up with a story of people coming from monkeys. There is no science behind that.

The thought of a higher being creating the world is no bigger of a leap of faith then someone believing that we evolved millions of years ago from some energy substance millions of years ago out of nowhere.

So if you want to have faith in evolution, dont go making fun of the people who have faith in creation.

They both require faith, and they both have no science behind them.

bingo....common sense at it's best chopt...:toast:
 

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I should not of said stoning, "put to death" would be more accurate. We both know, however, that crimes of this nature were most often carried out through stoning.

what if mean's for the punishment to be carried out after your human life end's???
 
it also seem's when talking to one of these atheist most of them seem to be so bitter and angry toward's those who choose to believe in their faith of choice....i have never been angry w a non believer and it make's no sense to me what so ever to do so.....i feel like alot of them must of had a really bad experience early in their live's. to each their own...

I'm not an atheist, but I do not believe in the "God" of the Bible, nor do I believe that the Bible is anything other than a propaganda piece. I am, what you call a non-believer. I am not bitter or angry toward people who believe that the Bible is the word of "God". I will, if asked, rip their belief system to shreds, not out of a sense of anger, but out of a sense of righteous indignation. I find that most people who claim to believe in the Bible don't know it and haven't read much of it, and they don't know much, if any, of the extremely large body of other historic and religious texts which teach us a lot about the people and the events referenced in the Bible. Most Bible thumpers that I have talked to are told by their religious leaders not to read such material. That always confused me and I have said to them, "If you have the truth, how can anything else be a danger to you?", but that question is never answered properly.
 
I see nothing wrong with most of the moral teachings of Christianity. It's the religion part that gets me.

I have spent a lot of time with aboriginal natives, in Central America, South America, and some Pacific Islands. Some of these tribes were exceedingly peaceful, possessing no words for hurt, fight, harm, lie, kill, murder, etc. I found it extremely difficult to believe that they had no word for 'lie'. I did not believe this at first, so I tested the tribe on this. I tried to get them to tell a lie. They could not do it. Then I told one and no one would speak for several hours, and their faces were drenched in looks of sadness, it was heartbreaking.

These people do not have a written moral code, but they live a moral code that puts the behavior of every Christian I have ever known to shame. I have read the Bible many times and I do not believe that it contains a moral code. Yes, the New Testament has a few verses that discuss behavior, but these statements are very weak and incomplete.

I am guessing that you will say that I am wrong, so please list the moral code that is taught in the Bible.
 

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I'm not an atheist, but I do not believe in the "God" of the Bible, nor do I believe that the Bible is anything other than a propaganda piece. I am, what you call a non-believer. I am not bitter or angry toward people who believe that the Bible is the word of "God". I will, if asked, rip their belief system to shreds, not out of a sense of anger, but out of a sense of righteous indignation. I find that most people who claim to believe in the Bible don't know it and haven't read much of it, and they don't know much, if any, of the extremely large body of other historic and religious texts which teach us a lot about the people and the events referenced in the Bible. Most Bible thumpers that I have talked to are told by their religious leaders not to read such material. That always confused me and I have said to them, "If you have the truth, how can anything else be a danger to you?", but that question is never answered properly.
i can respect that....i like to ask question's about the thing's that i don't understand, and this includes the bible. i, myself am not one of those 'bible thumper's', and have asked many question's myself about certain issues in the bible. good question you ask about the truth. you would think that if you ultimitely knew the truth, that you would be on fire to share it. i have learned in life that there will never be a rt answer or a pleasing one for any and all question's asked. it is up to the individual to find whatever make's him or her happy that make's their life more enjoyable...you bring up some very interesting point's for thought, this is what i like.....
 

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