Thanks for posting them. Good chance I'll be on Detroit at least, but not great being against him on two. Detroit is skyrocketing and it's looking like a good shot at getting Verlander at +150, which is nuts. And still have a lot to look at in the Toronto game, although I was leaning toward Buerhle as a big dog. I know he's not all that high on Buerhle though, so that might account for it. Plus, the Chi Sox looked absolutely awful yesterday while Toronto has been playing a bit better lately.
I don't know how someone can back Toronto unless you are Halliday's doctor you have no idea how he feels or is going to pitch. Right now you are paying for Halliday's name and only that. Halliday himself don't even know how he is going to pitch. I had the ChiSox in that disaster yesterday and I am still disgusted from that game. I myself just skipped over this game
Kind of how I felt initially, but if BG is on a game, I know there's a good reason behind it. While I lean toward staying away as well at this point, I can't imagine the Jays sending him out there this early if he's not at or close to 100%.
Still plan on responding to your thoughts on those games, but they deserve more time than I have right this second.
great work agains yesterday. went 7-1 losing only the mets game (idiot me said they'd blow them out and they get shut out) cost me a $10 8 team parlay
i with everyone on the mariners game. stunned by that line. worst ive seen in a month. also love the dodgers again today. will probably tail you on the mets game as i think they bounce back with a dominate hernandez on the hill.
im also kinda with the other guy who likes the angels runline for the reasons above. going to look a little deeper at white sox, but it scares me that buffett is on the blue jays. reds line seems nice, but i see buffett on the astros grr. at first glance this morning i liked the tigers at that juicy price, but my god the indians are awesome at home. i may be against you in the padres game, will look a little deeper. anyone like the cards or marlins? the one total im looking at is the over in the marlins game.
have stayed away from the nba recently but i might not be able to resist the cavs +6. the cavs have dominated this series and probably should have swept detroit. might take a stab at the over as well. more later. thanks jibba
i with everyone on the mariners game. stunned by that line. worst ive seen in a month. also love the dodgers again today. will probably tail you on the mets game as i think they bounce back with a dominate hernandez on the hill.
im also kinda with the other guy who likes the angels runline for the reasons above. going to look a little deeper at white sox, but it scares me that buffett is on the blue jays. reds line seems nice, but i see buffett on the astros grr. at first glance this morning i liked the tigers at that juicy price, but my god the indians are awesome at home. i may be against you in the padres game, will look a little deeper. anyone like the cards or marlins? the one total im looking at is the over in the marlins game.
have stayed away from the nba recently but i might not be able to resist the cavs +6. the cavs have dominated this series and probably should have swept detroit. might take a stab at the over as well. more later. thanks jibba
See while I agree that the Jays wouldn't send him out this early unless he was close to 100%, we can use King Felix as our example. He is not back in his groove yet and he is one of the top pitchers in baseball when on his game, just like Halliday. I think its doubtful that Halliday pitches Hallidayish today, he might be decent but not that dominant pitcher. Halliday is also 1-2 in his career over 6 games vs. WSox.. I just think at -153 that it is over priced and based mostly on his name. I am being cautious and just avoiding it all together.
Don't worry about it, whenever, if you ever do have time, respond to those thoughts.
Well, to be fair, Halladay has earned it more than Felix has. I am absolutely huge on Felix, and wasn't really put off by his subpar performance last year (by standards set for him that is). But he's still a kid and has not earned respect the way Halladay has. I briefly looked at the article on this on covers.com, and think it's worth a quick skim.
Jibba I have 1 more game I am looking to touch today. I am posting these thoughts in your thread because I know you appreciate some discussion and I have skimmed your threads over the yr but have never responded so I feel like I owe you some discussion. Overall I think todays Card is weak. I was interested in the Reds and the line dropped from -128 to -120 but I think something is up with Arroyo. He just has not been the same since the start on the road @ San Diego where he went 8 and I think threw 120pitches or so. Is he hurt? Is he tired? He got waxed last wk by 2 bad teams. Woody is bad but his 1 win this yr is vs the Reds and I don't want to be a victim of the Astros first win in 11 games.
I was going to mess with the Indians and that was my initial lean but I lean heavy to the Under now, especially if the number is 9. I know you don't mess with totals a lot but I took this from my thread at the other side so some of the references are to my posts there. I like Sabathia a lot, I will say that.
Indians -130 / Under 8.5+105:
Anyone who reads this had to know I would have atleast a lean here to CC. Big win for Indians in Boston to not get swept, now they return home (17-4) with their ace on the mound (7-1) to face their division rival. This is a rematch of the game last wk where the Indians won. This is what CC gets paid for, to come up big in big games. The Indians are 10-1 when Sabathia takes the mound, call me a homer all you want but the guy is money.
CC at home: 4-0, 2.70era, 6g, 40ip, 39h, 8bb, 43k and batters hitting .258 off him.
Baseball is not a 6-7inning game, it is a 9inning game and the Detroit bullpen sucks. Indian bullpen can struggle but they are in a better situation right now.
Verlander on the road: 2-0, 1.30era, 4g, 27.2ip, 18h, 9bb, 19k and batters hitting .184 off him.
Verlander is 5-1 on the yr w/ 2.71era and his team is 7-3 when he pitches.
This is why the Under also deserves a very hard look because I feel it is based off the score of last weeks game. There were 4 runs scored by the Indians from the 7th inning on in a 6-3 game. I think this is more of a 4-3, 4-2, 3-1, 3-2, 5-2, 5-3 but under 8.5 type game but it will most likely hinge on the bullpens for both squads to keep it under. Neither starter will give up more than 2runs imo. I can't go full out homer and back CC regardless here, I actually lean under more strongly. I would love to get this number at 9 and than I consider it a play. The weather will be fine with a 5mph wind blowing out. Still no ump info but I don't think the ump is that big of a deal in this game.
I was going to mess with the Indians and that was my initial lean but I lean heavy to the Under now, especially if the number is 9. I know you don't mess with totals a lot but I took this from my thread at the other side so some of the references are to my posts there. I like Sabathia a lot, I will say that.
Indians -130 / Under 8.5+105:
Anyone who reads this had to know I would have atleast a lean here to CC. Big win for Indians in Boston to not get swept, now they return home (17-4) with their ace on the mound (7-1) to face their division rival. This is a rematch of the game last wk where the Indians won. This is what CC gets paid for, to come up big in big games. The Indians are 10-1 when Sabathia takes the mound, call me a homer all you want but the guy is money.
CC at home: 4-0, 2.70era, 6g, 40ip, 39h, 8bb, 43k and batters hitting .258 off him.
Baseball is not a 6-7inning game, it is a 9inning game and the Detroit bullpen sucks. Indian bullpen can struggle but they are in a better situation right now.
Verlander on the road: 2-0, 1.30era, 4g, 27.2ip, 18h, 9bb, 19k and batters hitting .184 off him.
Verlander is 5-1 on the yr w/ 2.71era and his team is 7-3 when he pitches.
This is why the Under also deserves a very hard look because I feel it is based off the score of last weeks game. There were 4 runs scored by the Indians from the 7th inning on in a 6-3 game. I think this is more of a 4-3, 4-2, 3-1, 3-2, 5-2, 5-3 but under 8.5 type game but it will most likely hinge on the bullpens for both squads to keep it under. Neither starter will give up more than 2runs imo. I can't go full out homer and back CC regardless here, I actually lean under more strongly. I would love to get this number at 9 and than I consider it a play. The weather will be fine with a 5mph wind blowing out. Still no ump info but I don't think the ump is that big of a deal in this game.
well i hate to go against the padres, and i may not. would like to get the pirates at about +135. chacon as an era of just over 2 at home. maddux is 1-3 in last 5 starts against the pirates. as dominate as the padres pitching has been this month, maddux hasnt been. era in the mid 4s for may and for the season hardly qualifies as dominate. several players for the pirates have nice numbers against maddux, including wilson and bay. last night everyone was on the padres, including yours truly. throw that game out against a pitcher who is nails on the road and who owns the pirates, and you will see the pirates bats are picking up. im also much happier with the way torres is pitching lately, in case they need him in a close game.
chacon is a considerable upgrade from armas (took em long enough to make the change) and is fighting to stay in the rotation. there are 3 great prospects waiting to take a spot if he fails.
im also more concerned when the pirates face a power/strikeout pitcher as several of their players are prone to being overmatched by someone like randy johnson.
with that being said, maddux will pitch a 2 hit complete game with 8 k's. just my 2 cents
in response to the cavs comment above. cleveland lost 2 games by 3 pts in detroit. both games they had either a point blank shot or a wide open (shoot around open) shot in the closing seconds. maybe i shouldnt have said should have won, but could have won. regardless they were right there and 6 pts in the playoffs in a series this competitive is pretty good value imo. i guess some people are just waiting for the pistons to "flip that switch"
also agree with what the poster said about halladay.
chacon is a considerable upgrade from armas (took em long enough to make the change) and is fighting to stay in the rotation. there are 3 great prospects waiting to take a spot if he fails.
im also more concerned when the pirates face a power/strikeout pitcher as several of their players are prone to being overmatched by someone like randy johnson.
with that being said, maddux will pitch a 2 hit complete game with 8 k's. just my 2 cents
in response to the cavs comment above. cleveland lost 2 games by 3 pts in detroit. both games they had either a point blank shot or a wide open (shoot around open) shot in the closing seconds. maybe i shouldnt have said should have won, but could have won. regardless they were right there and 6 pts in the playoffs in a series this competitive is pretty good value imo. i guess some people are just waiting for the pistons to "flip that switch"
also agree with what the poster said about halladay.
Thanks 5 star. Same to you.
Finman,
Have to disagree with your assessment of Maddux. Maddux has lost 3 of his last 5 against SD, but he did so with a 3.60 ERA and has a career ERA of 2.62 in 50 career starts against them (25-16, 7 CGs, 5 SOs). As for how he's done this month, he's had 4 quality starts (I believe) in 5 starts while showing the control that we're used to with Maddux. Aside from his one bad road performance this year, which skewed his stats (and was against the AL), he's given up 11 ERs and 24 hits in starts at Atlanta, Florida, Colorado, and the Cubs. Those are 4 very solid offenses and quality starts on the road against those teams shouldn't be taken lightly IMO.
I also disagree on Chacon, who I've seen my share of in the past. The fact that he wants to stay in the rotation doesn't equate with him being able to pitch well enough against a good team to do so. He's just not that good, which is why he couldn't even make the Pirates' opening day rotation (and lost out to Armas). His ERA may be 2.05 at home this year, but he hasn't started a game there this year (he only has 7 relief apperances there. Because he's transitioning from a reliever, we likely won't see more than 5 or so innings out of him tonight anyways (3.2 in his first start). And I have faith that if the game is close at that point, this scrappy Padres offense will take advantage of Pittsburgh's weakish bullpen. Either way, BOL tonight.
Will likely be back in a bit.
Finman,
Have to disagree with your assessment of Maddux. Maddux has lost 3 of his last 5 against SD, but he did so with a 3.60 ERA and has a career ERA of 2.62 in 50 career starts against them (25-16, 7 CGs, 5 SOs). As for how he's done this month, he's had 4 quality starts (I believe) in 5 starts while showing the control that we're used to with Maddux. Aside from his one bad road performance this year, which skewed his stats (and was against the AL), he's given up 11 ERs and 24 hits in starts at Atlanta, Florida, Colorado, and the Cubs. Those are 4 very solid offenses and quality starts on the road against those teams shouldn't be taken lightly IMO.
I also disagree on Chacon, who I've seen my share of in the past. The fact that he wants to stay in the rotation doesn't equate with him being able to pitch well enough against a good team to do so. He's just not that good, which is why he couldn't even make the Pirates' opening day rotation (and lost out to Armas). His ERA may be 2.05 at home this year, but he hasn't started a game there this year (he only has 7 relief apperances there. Because he's transitioning from a reliever, we likely won't see more than 5 or so innings out of him tonight anyways (3.2 in his first start). And I have faith that if the game is close at that point, this scrappy Padres offense will take advantage of Pittsburgh's weakish bullpen. Either way, BOL tonight.
Will likely be back in a bit.
Buffet just added Texas to his card. I hope he isn't trying to throw the touts off or something.
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="5">Thursday, May 31
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Cleveland</td> <td class="datacell"> -
-</td> <td class="datacell">7:05 PM ET</td> <td class="datacell">Detroit +140</td> <td class="datacell">500</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datacell">San Diego
Pittsburgh</td> <td class="datacell"> -
-</td> <td class="datacell">7:05 PM ET</td> <td class="datacell">Pittsburgh +124</td> <td class="datacell">500</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datacell">Chi. White Sox
Toronto</td> <td class="datacell"> -
-</td> <td class="datacell">7:07 PM ET</td> <td class="datacell">Toronto -157</td> <td class="datacell">500</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datacell">Cincinnati
Houston</td> <td class="datacell"> -
-</td> <td class="datacell">8:05 PM ET</td> <td class="datacell">Houston +112</td> <td class="datacell">500</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datacell">Texas
Seattle</td> <td class="datacell"> -
-</td> <td class="datacell">10:05 PM ET</td> <td class="datacell">Texas +160</td> <td class="datacell">500</td></tr></tbody></table>
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="5">Thursday, May 31
</td> </tr> <tr class="datahead"> <td width="32%">Game</td> <td width="15%">Score</td> <td width="15%">Status</td> <td width="29%">Pick</td> <td width="9%">Amount</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datacell">Detroit
Cleveland</td> <td class="datacell"> -
-</td> <td class="datacell">7:05 PM ET</td> <td class="datacell">Detroit +140</td> <td class="datacell">500</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datacell">San Diego
Pittsburgh</td> <td class="datacell"> -
-</td> <td class="datacell">7:05 PM ET</td> <td class="datacell">Pittsburgh +124</td> <td class="datacell">500</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datacell">Chi. White Sox
Toronto</td> <td class="datacell"> -
-</td> <td class="datacell">7:07 PM ET</td> <td class="datacell">Toronto -157</td> <td class="datacell">500</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datacell">Cincinnati
Houston</td> <td class="datacell"> -
-</td> <td class="datacell">8:05 PM ET</td> <td class="datacell">Houston +112</td> <td class="datacell">500</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datacell">Texas
Seattle</td> <td class="datacell"> -
-</td> <td class="datacell">10:05 PM ET</td> <td class="datacell">Texas +160</td> <td class="datacell">500</td></tr></tbody></table>
