Last week he stayed in the pocket and didn't get hit much to protect his knee. I think he ran once and got out of bounds. He had a 104 QB rating which would of been much higher accept a ball hit his WR in both hands and was tipped for a interception...
He seems to be pretty good in the pocket and does not have to rely on his legs.
He seems to be pretty good in the pocket and does not have to rely on his legs.
Im guessing you haven't watched too many Skins games. RG3 had us in position to beat Atlanta and cousins came in. He threw a td on his first pass then proceeded to throw pick after pick. RG3 single handely wins the redskins games, cousins just doesnt have that ability. Look at the 1st giants game, the plays he made on 4th down were incredible. Cousins would be no better than a Christian Ponder, Bradford, etc in their 1st year, probably 6 wins max
The thing with threads like this, i have no problem stating my opinion. I just go off of past history which is usually injury heavy. That is why i give examples of the past but no one will be considered "right" for 3 or 4 years but like I said, name me a black quarterback who has gotten better year after year, it just does not happen. In a pass happy league, he has not even thrown for 3,000 yards.
Because of their "excitement level" and the biased media, they make them sound better than they are. Come on, Michael Wilbon was making a legit case for him being rookie of the year.
Another thing, the hardcore serious NFL quarterbacks do not mess with endorsements until they are proven...Peyton has 50 commercials, but he did not do 1 until he won his 1st MVP. Same with Rodgers, Brees, Brady, but yet Cam Newton and RG 42 can't get enough of it.
The best thing about when Peyton was QB of the colts, from 1999 on, fans always knew we had a shot and would be in it. That is a great feeling. Dungy screwed alot of it up but that is another story. But with RG version 42, you will not have that feeling, every game could be the last of his season. And sure Luck or Brady could go down this week as well, but statistically speaking, RG 42 has a greater chance of injury. He has already missed over 20% of his last 5 football years.
I still think it is a little sad at some games, when a parent holds up a sign that says "My child was saved at Peyton Manning children's hospital". This happened more in the pre-season though.
You ever notice most black quarterbacks have their best seasons in their rookie seasons, there is a reason for that. while now at 36, Manning may be having his best season ever. In my opinion, in 3 or 4 years, it will be 50/50 if RG 42 will still be a Redskin. He will get hurt, someone else will come in and play better.
Because of their "excitement level" and the biased media, they make them sound better than they are. Come on, Michael Wilbon was making a legit case for him being rookie of the year.
Another thing, the hardcore serious NFL quarterbacks do not mess with endorsements until they are proven...Peyton has 50 commercials, but he did not do 1 until he won his 1st MVP. Same with Rodgers, Brees, Brady, but yet Cam Newton and RG 42 can't get enough of it.
The best thing about when Peyton was QB of the colts, from 1999 on, fans always knew we had a shot and would be in it. That is a great feeling. Dungy screwed alot of it up but that is another story. But with RG version 42, you will not have that feeling, every game could be the last of his season. And sure Luck or Brady could go down this week as well, but statistically speaking, RG 42 has a greater chance of injury. He has already missed over 20% of his last 5 football years.
I still think it is a little sad at some games, when a parent holds up a sign that says "My child was saved at Peyton Manning children's hospital". This happened more in the pre-season though.
You ever notice most black quarterbacks have their best seasons in their rookie seasons, there is a reason for that. while now at 36, Manning may be having his best season ever. In my opinion, in 3 or 4 years, it will be 50/50 if RG 42 will still be a Redskin. He will get hurt, someone else will come in and play better.
List of every black quarterback i could think of. Look at how many of those guys flat out suck or are hurt. Also understand the generational difference in the game. Moon was a pocket passer, I will give him some credit but at at the time was considered a gimmick offense as the Oilers were the 1st team along with the Lions to go to a run and shoot. Teams just didn't have the personnel to cover 4 receivers. Also, Randal Cunningham, game was not played at the speed it is today; that is what made Lawrence Taylor so valuable as he was basically the 1st rush linebacker. Michael Vick would have looked like the best QB ever if he played in that era. This is why I do not consider 1950-s football real. Vick would be considered the greatest qb ever if he played thenm.
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1. Donovan McNabb : 1[SUP]st[/SUP] round pick #2overall
2. Randall Cunningham
3. Warren Moon
4. Aaron Brooks
5. Jamarcus Russell #1 overall
6. Michael Vick #1 overall
7. Robert Griffin III # 2 overall
8. Vince Young # 3 overall
9. Doug Williams
10. Cleo Lemmon
11. Quincy Carter
12. Byron Leftwich # 7 overall??
13. Daunte Culpepper : #13 overall?
14. Cam Newton #1 overall
15. Akili Smith #3 overall
16. David Garrard
17. Jason Campbell: 1[SUP]st[/SUP] round
18. Shaun King
19. Charlie Batch
20. Steve McNair #3 overall
21. Kordell Stewart
22. Andre Ware : 1[SUP]st[/SUP] round
23. Rodney Pete
24. Tavarris Jackson
25. Jeff Blake
26. Tony Banks
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2. Randall Cunningham
3. Warren Moon
4. Aaron Brooks
5. Jamarcus Russell #1 overall
6. Michael Vick #1 overall
7. Robert Griffin III # 2 overall
8. Vince Young # 3 overall
9. Doug Williams
10. Cleo Lemmon
11. Quincy Carter
12. Byron Leftwich # 7 overall??
13. Daunte Culpepper : #13 overall?
14. Cam Newton #1 overall
15. Akili Smith #3 overall
16. David Garrard
17. Jason Campbell: 1[SUP]st[/SUP] round
18. Shaun King
19. Charlie Batch
20. Steve McNair #3 overall
21. Kordell Stewart
22. Andre Ware : 1[SUP]st[/SUP] round
23. Rodney Pete
24. Tavarris Jackson
25. Jeff Blake
26. Tony Banks
Since you live in DC and I assume a skins fan, are you completely sold on him? You do not worry about the typical regression and injury probability?
Would you want to trade Cousins this offseason? They could prob. get a 2nd round pick for him.
By the way, I am a Grossman fan but that is just because I saw him in Indiana light it up in high school. I understand he is not the answer now.
I am not a fan of running qb's either... But I am sold on him being a pocket passer in the future. Like Steve young had to learn to stay in the pocket so will RG3 or as you said he will not be playing long.
I felt much better about him after last week when I saw him have a qb rating of 104(His rating would have been higher accept for a tip pass for int) an have to run just once. He was barely touched the entire game and skins were still able to put up 31. He seems to read defenses well, make progressions, and has a strong/accurate arm. He has all the tools to be a pocket passer.
I would trade cousins for a #2 and draft someone later to develop. Let Grossman back up. They have many holes to fill.
I felt much better about him after last week when I saw him have a qb rating of 104(His rating would have been higher accept for a tip pass for int) an have to run just once. He was barely touched the entire game and skins were still able to put up 31. He seems to read defenses well, make progressions, and has a strong/accurate arm. He has all the tools to be a pocket passer.
I would trade cousins for a #2 and draft someone later to develop. Let Grossman back up. They have many holes to fill.
I know mocks project that but that is the problems with these NFL teams that draft wrong year in and year out. It is as if they say "we def. need a QB" so they take the best 1 available when they pick or at least the best 1 that they think is available. They should be saying "I think this guy can be our franchise quarterback for the next 15 years" and then you take them. But really, who sees Geno freakin Smith as even a decent quarterback.
For instance, if this draft class was last years class and the colts had the 1st pick, Manning would still be a Colt. So far i am a beleiver in the new GM, Colts got 5 starters from last years draft and they are all on offense. And I think the 3-4 is such a better defense, gives more looks to it than nice guy Dungy's vanilla tampa 2.
So many times, these morons get infatuated with some kid in a tanktop and shorts at the combine or they just say "we need a quarterback" and try to sell themselves on it....Assuming you can't trade, i would take left tackle or basically best player in draft because you know what, the chiefs and jags will suck next year too. Then maaybe take Barkley early in round 2.
It is such a pass happy league, some of these teams might just start drafting a quarterback in one of the first 3 rounds hoping to get Brady lucky because you just do not win consistantly without 1.
I still can't beleive how ridiculously " lucky" the colts got. I think eventually draft will change to lottery system or something because unless you have good to great quarterback, you are not winning big in todays NFL.
Each time I see a person say K. Cousins is better than RGIII I feel dumber.
Forumville is a strange place. It reminds me of that scene in Reservoir Dogs where they're sitting at the table arguing over whether to leave a tip or not. Just a cast of mostly misfits who can't come to a consensus on anything. That happens each day in Forumland.
Forumville is a strange place. It reminds me of that scene in Reservoir Dogs where they're sitting at the table arguing over whether to leave a tip or not. Just a cast of mostly misfits who can't come to a consensus on anything. That happens each day in Forumland.
I am the only one saying it. I don't buy into the black quarterback, waiting for 1 to prove me wrong and it takes more than 1 decent season to do it in. he has throwed short most of the year, already been hurt, and is playing in a gimmick offense. He has missed 20% of time in his last 5 years. And each year, he will get slower and those hits will pile up. And then he will have a hit that he misses a season for, then it will take another season just to get the rust off. Like I say, the black quarterback has a short shelf life. Everyone loved Vince Young, Vick, Cam Newton when they came in the league, now everyone knows all 3 suck.
Also, the fact that they do not have a 1st round pick in 2013 and 2014 does not bode well for them either. I beleive skins fans would like the results much better if cousins played all 16 games....Like I said, if it doesn't work out, you know fairly quick (see Blaine Gabbert)
Also, the fact that they do not have a 1st round pick in 2013 and 2014 does not bode well for them either. I beleive skins fans would like the results much better if cousins played all 16 games....Like I said, if it doesn't work out, you know fairly quick (see Blaine Gabbert)
