I'll just go ahead and say it...I don't think Blake Griffin is as good as people think he is

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20 points and 7 boards a game is hype and garbage? Hes played for 2 years and everyone is bashing him. How many big men are polished 2 years into the league? He goes 100% everynight, takes cheapshots, and has a strong passion for the game. I have never seen a 2nd year player crucified more than in this thread, and im not even a big blakers fan
 

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20 points and 7 boards a game is hype and garbage? Hes played for 2 years and everyone is bashing him. How many big men are polished 2 years into the league? He goes 100% everynight, takes cheapshots, and has a strong passion for the game. I have never seen a 2nd year player crucified more than in this thread, and im not even a big blakers fan

Dude, most NBA players go 100% each night, take cheap shots and have passion for the game or they wouldn't be in the NBA.

Kevin Love and Lamarcus Aldridge are so much better than Blake Griffin yet get half the publicity he does. Luis Scola and David Lee have numbers that are comparable to Blake Griffin and are much more polished basketball players yet they get no notice. He's not a good NBA player right now.
 

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Love is better than Blake i agree , but if Love was in LA I think he would be getting more attention.
 

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If people think hes sooooooo good then why was LAC +180 to win this series? Sounds like people didn't think he was as good as you would like to think.
 

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Dude, most NBA players go 100% each night, take cheap shots and have passion for the game or they wouldn't be in the NBA.

Kevin Love and Lamarcus Aldridge are so much better than Blake Griffin yet get half the publicity he does. Luis Scola and David Lee have numbers that are comparable to Blake Griffin and are much more polished basketball players yet they get no notice. He's not a good NBA player right now.

Not sure if you watch the same NBA as me, but no one has taken the kind of cheap shots Griffin has all year. People are scared to get dunked on and are fouling him like no one else. Secondly, plenty of players take nights off and dont go full speed. Im not saying he is better than Love or Aldridge, and I dont think many people are making that argument. But Aldridge is in Portland and they were horrible this year so he isn't going to get that much pub. Kevin Love got more ESPN run than anyone this year and it was deserved. Scola and Lee are older than Griffin and they get similar numbers. An emphasis is put on his dunking ability but people aren't saying he is a better basketball player than all those guys you listed
 

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Not sure if you watch the same NBA as me, but no one has taken the kind of cheap shots Griffin has all year. People are scared to get dunked on and are fouling him like no one else. Secondly, plenty of players take nights off and dont go full speed. Im not saying he is better than Love or Aldridge, and I dont think many people are making that argument. But Aldridge is in Portland and they were horrible this year so he isn't going to get that much pub. Kevin Love got more ESPN run than anyone this year and it was deserved. Scola and Lee are older than Griffin and they get similar numbers. An emphasis is put on his dunking ability but people aren't saying he is a better basketball player than all those guys you listed

Dude, Griffin gets fouled like everyone else in the NBA. He gets FOULED but you think it's a cheap shot because he flops around like a European soccer player. I guarantee you no NBA player is intimidated or scared of any other player. You don't get to the NBA, MLB or the NFL by being scared of anyone. It's not in their DNA to be scared on the athletic field of play.

Let me ask you this. If you are asked to create a list with 20 names of guys to be considered for the U.S. Olympic Team, is Griffin on that list? My answer is "hell no."
 

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Dude, Griffin gets fouled like everyone else in the NBA. He gets FOULED but you think it's a cheap shot because he flops around like a European soccer player. I guarantee you no NBA player is intimidated or scared of any other player. You don't get to the NBA, MLB or the NFL by being scared of anyone. It's not in their DNA to be scared on the athletic field of play.

Let me ask you this. If you are asked to create a list with 20 names of guys to be considered for the U.S. Olympic Team, is Griffin on that list? My answer is "hell no."

I didn't say he is a top 20 player. But you said he is not a good NBA player and thats wrong. Its not even an argument.

This doesn't happen to many other players:
 

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Cheap shots? he got called out last game because now he's exaggerating everything.
My point is the guy CANT shoot at all and this would be his 3rd year in the league. He had a whole year of down time to work on a jump shot a set shot like a free throw and look the guy still fucking sucks. Just because he can jump and give thundering dunks he's automatic a top 5 player now??? Hell no and i don't see him getting any better in any category besides collecting more D rebs. He can develop some more post moves but doubt it.

Old amare could run the floor with the ball and hit jump shots and create blake can't do much of any of those and amare was out of high school blake has had 2 years before his rookie( using amare as an example because his name keeps coming up)
 

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I didn't say he is a top 20 player. But you said he is not a good NBA player and thats wrong. Its not even an argument.

This doesn't happen to many other players:

Not an argument for you maybe. He's not close to being a good fundamental NBA basketball player. He gets destroyed by anyone with an ounce of athleticism.
 

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Who said he was a top 5 player? I don't know who you guys are hanging out with that are saying Griffin is the next Jordan. Hes good now, 22 and 7 is good. He needs to work on his game but he has plenty of time to do it.
 

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Not an argument for you maybe. He's not close to being a good fundamental NBA basketball player. He gets destroyed by anyone with an ounce of athleticism.

You hate him for some reason, not sure why. Not saying hes great, but hes very good, he is young, and he can get better
 

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You hate him for some reason, not sure why. Not saying hes great, but hes very good, he is young, and he can get better

I love the RX. Posters making assumptions on nothing really. I don't hate the Auburn Mamba and actually said in my first post I wish him well but I guess you're right I must hate him. Great assumption.

He's not very good. Has no defense, no jump shot and no real inside game outside of three feet. He can't shoot free throws and shits his pants when he plays a great player. He's not that great.

It says a lot to a guy like me when retired NBA Hall of Fame players say he's simply not very good right now. Of course he can get better.
 

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He's not very good. Has no defense, no jump shot and no real inside game outside of three feet. He can't shoot free throws and shits his pants when he plays a great player. He's not that great.

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So even with all that he still gets 20 and 7 a game? Just think of how great he is going to be if he learns how to play basketball.
 

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So even with all that he still gets 20 and 7 a game? Just think of how great he is going to be if he learns how to play basketball.

20 points a game. 10 from dunks, 2 from 15 free throw attempts and 8 from put backs or lay ins. I'm sorry to say man but very little guys that follow basketball will agree with you on this. But maybe Barkley, Smith, Shaq and all of those guys are just wrong.
 

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Did I get Clipps +180 to win this series because Griffin is SOOO OVERRATED? Maybe I got it cause you guys are underrating him? I dunno, either way he has been the 2nd best player in this series behind CP3 and Clipps are up 3-1...Not sure how that spells OVERRATED. Sounds cool though...
 

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20 points a game. 10 from dunks, 2 from 15 free throw attempts and 8 from put backs or lay ins. I'm sorry to say man but very little guys that follow basketball will agree with you on this. But maybe Barkley, Smith, Shaq and all of those guys are just wrong.

You got some quotes where those guys say Blake Griffin isn't very good? Hes a 55% free throw shooter. Most big men are not very good free throw shooters. And what is wrong with points from put backs? It shows his rebounding skills. Whats the difference between getting a point from a dunk or a jumper? Not sure how you can say that people who follow basketball think Griffin isnt very good. Scouts liked him enough to think him the consensus #1 pick, also was rookie of the year because he was no good? I never once stated he was great right now. I said he is good and has tons of potential to get a lot better
 

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ok right now he's decent 22-7 is worse than david lee numbers and Zach Rand. That puts him in the amazing range of boozer, washed up amare, old KG.

my point is people think he's great because every night he has a thunderous dunk and puts up solid fantasy numbers so does kris humphries fyi. Im arguing that he's garbage and not near the top 30 in the NBA not top 10 at his own position. I don't think he's going to progress at all what happens in 2-3-4 years when he loses that lift cuz it will be soon. He has now proven he can't shoot worth shit he had an entire year to work on jump shots and free throws and that was 2 full years ago

by the way right now cousins, west, millsap, scola, bosh, aldridge, love, dirk all by far better
AND i hate his kia commercials
 

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