If Sandy Koufax was in his prime pitching tommorow for KC, what would the line be?

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How much do you think the line swings when you substitute Kazmir for McClung in Tampa Bay?

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!

The line is adjusted at least 100 cents.

What about the juice that SANTANA gets for the TWINS?

 

[PatrickMcIrish]

How much do you think the line swings when you substitute Kazmir for McClung in Tampa Bay?

Nowhere near 250 cents and up, not even close. How much do you think it will change it.

 

[CHOPTALK]

What about Halladay vs Towers?

 

[mofome]

as i said. -210

i would play KC over pett with duckworth


im basesman



:money:

 

[ClipJoint]

Nowhere near 250 cents and up, not even close. How much do you think it will change it.

I am not sure...I was just curious what your opinion is. If I had to guess, I would say anywhere between 100-150.

Keep in mind this would not be near the comparison as Koufax or one of the Hall of Fame pitchers that routinely threw complete games. The line is completely different for a pitcher that eliminates a terrible bullpen.

With a starter like Duckworth, the odds are very good you will see multiple relievers for extended periods of time from the worst bullpen in baseball.

 

[PatrickMcIrish]

The line is adjusted at least 100 cents.

You are talking about more than 2.5 times that amount, not sure what 100 cents has to do with anything.

 

[PatrickMcIrish]

Agree with that Mofome, I think I said in this thread earlier I thought the line on Houston was way too high today. That isn't the point though, I am just going by how much a pitching change would affect the price of a game. I have a ton of stuff run on DB's that I can get this, doesn't make them right necessarily but later tonight I will look and see what ratings are given to starting pitchers and see what the new line would be. These are simulated but I don't see anyone moving 250 and more because of a pitching change.

Not saying I have to be right, just giving my honest opinion. Hell I played Philly under today, clearly I am wrong quite frequently.

 

[CHOPTALK]

So the general consenses is that KC would go from +220 to about a pickem, but yet 70% of your capping going to pitching is too much.:lolBIG:

How can you have it both ways?

 

[PokerKingJim]

KC would be slightly favored with Koufax starting and the value would lie with Houston

I wouldnt set the line there but that's what the betting public would. Betting public overvalues starting pitching

 

[FairWarning]

So the general consenses is that KC would go from +220 to about a pickem, but yet 70% of your capping going to pitching is too much.:lolBIG:

How can you have it both ways?

I weigh pitching as 50% and I bet the streak the other 50%. The streak is the main indicator of how the team is doing. A stud/hot pitcher can change that. Look at the Tor/Florida game today. Halladay pitching vs a team of kids on a 7-game winning streak. I would say there was more money on Toronto.