That's if the guy is getting constant work forever. That doesn't include all the other expenses in my other post. More than the teacher, the handyman has much more risk of being out of work for periods of time. He also has no 401k, no benefits, no insurance, no pension, no paid time, sick leave. And you never specified the task. If it's one ceiling fan, the trip charge alone will exceed $50 likely. You said it was a week's worth of work. I assume it's something skilled and/or multiple tasks. If the guy is mowing your lawn and fixing some light bulbs then sure, $2000 is too much. But you can't spend 40 hours on those tasks in a 30,000sf mansion.
That's if the guy is getting constant work forever. That doesn't include all the other expenses in my other post. More than the teacher, the handyman has much more risk of being out of work for periods of time. He also has no 401k, no benefits, no insurance, no pension, no paid time, sick leave. And you never specified the task. If it's one ceiling fan, the trip charge alone will exceed $50 likely. You said it was a week's worth of work. I assume it's something skilled and/or multiple tasks. If the guy is mowing your lawn and fixing some light bulbs then sure, $2000 is too much. But you can't spend 40 hours on those tasks in a 30,000sf mansion.
A handyman making 100k is a business man as much as he is a handyman. You are looking for a local guy with no insurance/overhead to knock out a couple small jobs for very little compensation. If you have a guy who works for a general contractor making $13-15 an hour come out and replace a ceiling fan or something for $50 you may both be happy, but he is never going to cross that bridge and start making real bank - and some people like it like that. It is a bitch to make a lot of money in construction - you work long, very physically demanding hours and miss out on a lot of shit that your family and friends get to do. A guy like this deserves to make more than a teacher because he is busting his hump to get it. Does it make you mad that people like him with little to no formal education can knock down the same salary as a doctor or nuclear engineer?
I don't understand what expenses you're talking about.
If he is a handyman, he has tools.
Order supplies? I pay for the supplies. He gets paid for the time he uses ordering supplies. No expense there.
Maintain scheduling? What does this mean? He shows up on Monday and works. He's done on Friday.
Annual costs for insurance and license is next to nothing if he even has insurance and a license.
Pull permits? For what? If permits are needed, the owner pays those costs.
Keeps books? That's an expense? For the pen and paper?
Literally, his gas is his only expense. At $50 an hour, this guy is making a load.
I could drill it in your head for a week you wouldn't get it. Apparently the guy you're intending to hire woke up one day with a truck full of tools and knowing how to do every task. He never gets calls about current, previous, or future jobs - he just shows up on Mondays and leaves on Fridays and everyone brings exactly what he needs to every job site. He's always busy and he keeps his taxes with a #2 and a spiral. He doesn't even have insurance, just hopes the homeowners liability covers him if he's injured. The permits just arrive on site and the inspector just approves everything.
All I'm saying is I don't think the expenses you mentioned add up. After he buys his tools (which he did long before me probably years ago) he has next to no expenses except for gas to the job which all of us have. All the stuff you've mentioned is paid for by the homeowner and all of his time to secure supplies etc. is reimbursed by the homeowner and typically a handyman is not securing permits as if you need permits, you hire a no kidding general contractor to do the job.
You can try and "drill" it in my head all you want and continue to try and insult my intelligence but we just agree to disagree. It's not a bad thing.
Enfuego, not sure why you are arguing w/ CowboyT. He is 100% correct.
A "small business" that makes $100K in revenue is probably netting $60-65K or less when it's all said and done.
Unless this business owner is charging "by the job" (vs. by the hour) he's very likely making much less than $100K in revenues.
A "small business" that makes $100K in revenue is probably netting $60-65K or less when it's all said and done.
Unless this business owner is charging "by the job" (vs. by the hour) he's very likely making much less than $100K in revenues.
I just don't agree with you but that's alright. A guy running his business as a handyman with him being the sole employee does not have 45K in expenses per year. I won't ever believe that not for one bit. If anyone can tell me what costs 45K in one calendar year as a handyman I'm all ears.
And please don't tell me bookkeeping because that's hogwash.
How much does a handyman charge? Whatever he wants. He weighs his skill work /quality of work , market demand, competitor pricing, and above all 'peace between the ears '. He may be a brilliant handyman, quite frankly , some do it as a side job. He may change $X amount of dollars . Too high ? Go elsewhere . do your due diligence.
Sorry about the typo , it's charge not change . Wanted to add two things . A % of the population suffer from severe low self-esteem , self-worth issues . Some , are insanely talented - yet they under charge as they don't see themselves as valuable. Ever experience this ?had a lady do window blinds . felt she was brilliant , passionate. Gut feeling after chatting . Didn't even bother to
ask for references . I was right , sadly her fee was way too
low . I bring this up
cause the chap charging only $20
/ hr may be the best in the city!! ....
. Secondly , if u don't give a Fuvk about quality/whether they are insured/ fuck due diligence then Geesus , get the guy who charges $12 hr . Forget $25 !! Or $50!! You saved a shitload and feel great..!! Roll the dice .
ask for references . I was right , sadly her fee was way too
low . I bring this up
cause the chap charging only $20
/ hr may be the best in the city!! ....
. Secondly , if u don't give a Fuvk about quality/whether they are insured/ fuck due diligence then Geesus , get the guy who charges $12 hr . Forget $25 !! Or $50!! You saved a shitload and feel great..!! Roll the dice .
Ceiling ? Of course , it's there for any product /service (Why doesn't Apple charge $10,000 for its iphone?) .Supply /demand . You don't need a college education to be a handyman , no factor as a parameter for 'ceiling ' price . Working for another certainly limits the individual, financially . He works for the owner ,he can't set price .
Given you opened the thread and obviously looking for guidance , what's your summary ? What are you paying ? Still uncertain ?
I think I may have missed the part where I said you need a college degree to be a handyman.
Unless you have a college degree or unless you own your own business, there is a ceiling for people without formal education. I've had this discussion many times on here. Many of the guys without a college degree will disagree and argue and many with will nod in agreement.
Not having a college degree is a self eliminator meaning all things being equal, two guys go in for an interview, the guy with the degree most likely will get the job. It's just a fact.
