holliday and fuentes to phillies

[aclv1]

will it happen ?

 

[GreenDoberman]

What are they offering?

 

[caseymcgillis]

i dont think the phillies have the prospects left after getting blanton do they ? that is a big risk for the rockies dealing 2 all stars.

 

[aclv1]

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp..._id=3166746&vkey=trade2008&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb


i think this move happens by game time tomorrow. they say the talks faded. i doubt it.

 

[zeketaylor]

if it happens, im getting a loan from somewhere and betting a gazillion on phillies to win it all......holliday...wow!

 

[honkee]

they can have holliday and their whole pitching staff and still woudnt win shit

 

[aclv1]

most would say this isnt a good deal for philly, but i say fuck it, the future IS now. roll the dice sell the farm!!




http://www.philly.com/philly/sports...o_short_in_the_pennant_NO_HEAD_SPECIFIED.html

 

[Huckel]

guess there planning on hitting there way into the world series which with holliday might look easy god damn that lineup would be all star esque

 

[aclv1]

come on phillies pull the trigger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




i have a gut feeling this happens over night now that its been exposed over the last 24-48 hrs.

 

[caseymcgillis]

still with no pitching behind hamels they cant get past either the brewers or cubs i dont think. that lineup is great but the brewers bring sabathia / sheets and the cubs zambrano / harden and hamels can only pitch 2 times in 1 series. behind him the phils are absolute junk

 

[Mr.Cover123]

Stupid deal if they make it, but I guarantee they won't. When was the last time the Phillies made a big move at the deadline? I sure as hell can't remember. Holliday is a great player, but the Phillies don't need another bat. Fuentes would be a nice fit because they need another lefty with Romero, but they need a #2 starter to team up with Hamels. If they were willing to deal Carrasco and Victorino then I don't know why they didn't get CC or Harden. Either way its a bullshit rumor and I guarantee it won't happen.

 

[knucklecup]

Stupid deal if they make it, but I guarantee they won't. When was the last time the Phillies made a big move at the deadline? I sure as hell can't remember. Holliday is a great player, but the Phillies don't need another bat. Fuentes would be a nice fit because they need another lefty with Romero, but they need a #2 starter to team up with Hamels. If they were willing to deal Carrasco and Victorino then I don't know why they didn't get CC or Harden. Either way its a bullshit rumor and I guarantee it won't happen.

yup

 

[Boxer22]

I would love to see this happen, but there is no way that it will.

 

[Boxer22]

Stupid deal if they make it, but I guarantee they won't. When was the last time the Phillies made a big move at the deadline? I sure as hell can't remember. Holliday is a great player, but the Phillies don't need another bat. Fuentes would be a nice fit because they need another lefty with Romero, but they need a #2 starter to team up with Hamels. If they were willing to deal Carrasco and Victorino then I don't know why they didn't get CC or Harden. Either way its a bullshit rumor and I guarantee it won't happen.

The Indians got way better then Victorino and Carrasco for CC. Carrasco is 5-7 this year with a 4.02 ERA. Matt Laporta at the time of the trade had 66 RBIs 20 homeruns and was batting in the high .280s. I would of definitely took Laporta and the other guys the Indians received over Carrasco and Victorino, but thats just me.

 

[OTK]

It won't happen, and it would be a terrible deal for the Phillies if it did. Why would they trade for Holliday? You can't win a World Series with just hitting. As much as fans think you can, you can't. Good pitching will shut down good hitting, just look at the All Star game as proof. If I'm Colorado and I can get a top 10 prospect, plus a couple other prospects added in the trade I pull the trigger in a second. This team won't be a winner for a while and Holliday is most likely gone when his contract expires, so why not think ahead and get a young stud for him?

The Phillies could use Fuentes though. Apparently Duchscherer is on the block too. That is where their focus should be if they want to make a trade.

 

[OTK]

The Indians got way better then Victorino and Carrasco for CC. Carrasco is 5-7 this year with a 4.02 ERA. Matt Laporta at the time of the trade had 66 RBIs 20 homeruns and was batting in the high .280s. I would of definitely took Laporta and the other guys the Indians received over Carrasco and Victorino, but thats just me.

I agree because La Porta could very easily be a 40 HR guy in the future, and will most likely at least be a consistent 30 HR hitter. Carrasco is a very good prospect as well, but La Porta is going to be special.

 

[Boxer22]

It won't happen, and it would be a terrible deal for the Phillies if it did. Why would they trade for Holliday? You can't win a World Series with just hitting. As much as fans think you can, you can't. Good pitching will shut down good hitting, just look at the All Star game as proof. If I'm Colorado and I can get a top 10 prospect, plus a couple other prospects added in the trade I pull the trigger in a second. This team won't be a winner for a while and Holliday is most likely gone when his contract expires, so why not think ahead and get a young stud for him?

The Phillies could use Fuentes though. Apparently Duchscherer is on the block too. That is where their focus should be if they want to make a trade.

If the Phillies think they can get Duchscherer for Carrasco I would do it in a heart beat. I think I might be the only Phillies fan who thinks Carrasco is overrated.

 

[krk1030]

Rollins
Victroino
Utley
Holliday
Howard
Burrell

That's disgusting

 

[OTK]

Rollins
Victroino
Utley
Holliday
Howard
Burrell

That's disgusting

Moyer
Kendrick
Eaton
Happ

That's disgusting also, but in the opposite way. Plus they'd have to give up Victroino in the trade if it happened.

 

[Boxer22]

Moyer
Kendrick
Eaton
Happ

That's disgusting also, but in the opposite way. Plus they'd have to give up Victroino in the trade if it happened.

You forgot Joe Blanton.