Harper bans media from covering fallen soldiers' return

[kingbill]

If they polled these same people and asked them to name the Vice-President of the U.S. or our Secretaries of State and Defense, far less than 50% would answer correctly. There is a difference between democracy and mobocracy. The mob isn't privy to all the neccessary information, as you pointed out, and the vast majority wouldn't know what to do with it if they got it.

It's a great thing we have politicians to save the pubic from there own stupidity

 

[xpanda]

I wonder, Joe, if you're even aware of your own contradictions.

How do you champion democracy, when you think the public is too stupid to make informed voting decisions?

How do you champion democracy as the über-war-preventer, but then propose eliminating war from public debate?

And what in the world is so libertarian about muzzling the press???

 

[kingbill]

Personally I don't think Joe knows what he wants, He wants his freedoms but at the same time he wants a government to rule him like a king errr at least rule everyone else like a king.

What do you want Joe? Really really really want?

Sometimes I think all the words you type are written tounge in cheek and you are a really a TO Church Street resident who portrays a Neo-con online as an escape.

You know how some guys will go into chat rooms an pretend they are teen age girls to flirt with bikers.
Sorry not sure where that came from...

 

[JoeContrarian]

Panda, you're too much of an elitist simpleton to not only understand what I want, but much more importantly, what is at stake.

I understand if we lose this war, history will record that those who had the most to lose, did the least to prevent it from happening. 50 years from now, history will not record Harper's media ban on fallen soliders. Rather, a time and place when there are no more fallen soldiers in the regions they are currently deployed. And because of the brave men and women who believe in the current mission and are determined to see it through, your children and grandchildren will be able to visit the memorials in a land of peace, giving tribute to those Canadians who paid the ultimate price.

War is a never a choice between peace or conflict, rather between fight or surrender. The moral relativists would have us believe otherwise, yet there is a profound difference between war for conquest and war for liberation. The Communists invaded Afghanistan for conquest. Those four brave Canadian soldiers killed recently, that we honour and cherish in our hearts, died liberating the Afghan people from the perverse ideology of their islamofascist captors.

Cpl. Matthew Dinning was one those killed doing what he believed in -- fighting for democracy.

"Matthew firmly believed everyone should have freedom in their own country, so he was passionate about his work," Dinning's maternal grandmother, Rhelda Stockall, said yesterday. "As a grandmother, it's scary to see your grandson go off to war. That was his choice, and we had to go along with it. I hope some good can come from the work Matthew was doing. He wanted to go into the military to be a policeman. That was his wish ...to help with democracy.” He was a very caring boy and wanted to try to get (the Afghan) people better living conditions,” said Dinning's grandfather Jim Stockall. His father (Lincoln Dinning) is an OPP officer and had been to Kosovo as a peacekeeper. He (Matthew) wouldn't have joined the military if he wasn't a policeman. It was his background. Stockall knows his grandson's death will be fuel for those Canadians opposed to Canada's involvement in Afghanistan, but his family is committed to the mission. "Canada wants other countries to be free," he said.

God bless’em!

Now, if only our little 'progressive' intellectual elites pretending to speak for people like Cpl. Matthew Dinning, would shut up already.

 

[bigplay]

"War is hell" because a Jewish carpenter doesn't start or condone wars.

 

[xpanda]

Well, Joe, aside from calling me a simpleton, in what way did you even address my questions?

These are legitimate, logical questions, addressing the discrepancy between your conflicting views that democracy is the noblest form of government, that democratic nations don't go to war, but that war should be removed from the democratic process. I've read the Art of War long ago and don't see how that book explains your conflicting views on democracy (indeed, Tzu wasn't much of a democrat, yes?)

Here are my questions again, in case you overlooked them:

How do you champion democracy, when you think the public is too stupid to make informed voting decisions?

How do you champion democracy as the über-war-preventer, but then propose eliminating war from public debate?

And what in the world is so libertarian about muzzling the press???

 

[JoeContrarian]

Awww, Panda, I’ve addressed all of those queries in this thread -- and then some. Apparently, you just don’t listen.