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do you have a list of Thomas big hits?
tia
your the only one questioning Thomas as a HOF player..... Dude was one of the most feared hitters in baseball in his era.. to get 2 MVP's I'm sure there were some big hits..I also didn't see the fluctiation in Thomas frame over the years, unlike the other cheaters.... Unless some evidence comes forward, I have to believe Thomas was clean his whole career...I don't even remember a rumor with Thomas with PED's
You misunderstood my post
I was not questioning Thomas being a hof'er
All I was saying was these arrogant voters somehow decided that Thomas did not do steroids and bagwell did.
When they have the same exact amount of evidence on Thomas as they do bagwell which is zero.
Its crazy how these voters are playing god deciding which players took them and which players did not take them.
I am not talking about players like arod or palmero who they do have should proof on.
Im talking about people like bagwell and piazza who they don't have a single shread of proof whatsoever other then they think he looks like a guy who might have took them.
What makes these voters so special to think they can decided that Thomas did not do them but bagwell did when they have the same exact amount of evidence on both which is zero.
There is no question bagwell would have been first ballot if not for steroid assumption
Yea, I did misunderstand it.. I don't have an opinion with Bagwell.. I also never have suspected Bagwell.. I do see Bagwell making it, Piazza is a no brainer IMO..
So how do these voters decide that Thomas did not take them but bagwell did when they have the same evidence on both which is zero?
There is no doubt that both piazza and bagwell would have both got in this season without steroid assumption.
Thats not even a debate.
So what this basically means is these voters are basically playing god deciding without any evidence at all which ones took them and which ones did not.
As much of a snake as I think the voter who said we won't vote for anyone who played in the last 20 years.
I can at least respect his stance a little bit more then those people who vote yay or nay based on what they think based on no evidence at all.
But then again I don't understand why I'm wasting my time talking about such an irrelevant group as the baseball hof
Which is supposed to have the best players of alltime but yet the alltime hits leader is not there, the alltime home run hitter is not there. And the greatest power pitcher of the last 50 years is not there.
Biggio had a better whole career then thomas
and bagwell was also better
why does bagwell get the steroid treatment by the voters but Thomas does not?
These voters should be shot.
They are punishing bagwell because they think he looks like a guy who might have took steroids but for some reason Thomas is ok.
such bullshit
Bagwell is the best 1st baseman I have ever seen
Biggio certainly is not a 1st ballot Hall of Famer, not even close. Big John Mize had to wait over over a decade to get in and he was far, far better player than Biggio. DiMaggio didn't even get in on his first chance.
Please let's not be upset about Biggio not getting in.
Who is to say Biggio wasn't on roids ? The Astros certainly had one of the strongest steroid environments during his career in Houston (Caminiti, Bagwell, etc) Just because you have a small frame doesn't mean you aren't juicing, lots of tiny guys have been caught over the years, you don't have to be musclebound. If the same millin dollar bet was on the line with Biggio I'd probably have to bet he used PED's