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Haven't done the research yet, but at first glance this looks like the pre-election polls that were full of you know what. Now if 80% of Republicans voters support this, how the hell did Trump get elected considering he ran to prevent illegals from crossing and denying them citizenship? Again at first glance (not saying it's 100% BS) this looks like all the polls declaring Hillary in a landside cbs included!
 

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Yes! or put more simply human beings vs human beings...

LOL! Lets hold hands and sing Kumbaya. Ok I shouldn't mock your beliefs, but if you do believe this get rid of all locks on your doors, better yet get rid of the front door, because all are welcome in your home right? After all they're all human beings no need for locks or doors! If your home has an open door policy where all are welcome then I'll will rescind my comment and commend you for your beliefs.
 

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LOL! Lets hold hands and sing Kumbaya. Ok I shouldn't mock your beliefs, but if you do believe this get rid of all locks on your doors, better yet get rid of the front door, because all are welcome in your home right? After all they're all human beings no need for locks or doors! If your home has an open door policy where all are welcome then I'll will rescind my comment and commend you for your beliefs.

Huh?
 

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The VAST majority of people support DACA

- McConnell blocked a 3 day extension
- Paul Ryan blocked a Durbin-McConnell deal
- John Kelly blocked a Schumer-Trump deal
- Trump and Paul Ryan are blocking negotiations
(twitter)

obviously the democrats are entirely to blame here

I'm for DACA - but that was not at issue - they were voting to fund the government - not for DACA - u guys refuse to tell it like it is
 
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Last I check the military does not get paid unless Congress votes to enable them to get paid during a shutdown. Pretty sad when Democrats are perfectly okay with legal citizens not getting paid to help illegals get into the country. We all know they do this as they need a new stream of voters to help engage in voter fraud to win as that is the only way they can win these days.
 

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Haven't done the research yet, but at first glance this looks like the pre-election polls that were full of you know what. Now if 80% of Republicans voters support this, how the hell did Trump get elected considering he ran to prevent illegals from crossing and denying them citizenship? Again at first glance (not saying it's 100% BS) this looks like all the polls declaring Hillary in a landside cbs included!

The poll is close enough to accurate, it just asks the question in a deceiving way as I say in post #55.
 

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Military families go without income

That sucks
 

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Obviously based on your posts in this thread (God I gotta spell it out for you) you're for illegals staying in the States. Well if that's the case then remove locks from your doors and let all people into your home un-vetted. If it's Ok for the nation then surely it's Ok for your home.
 

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919, what's your opinion on border security and how important do you think it is?

Rather than just beat around the bush and selectively reply to the posts you want to, why not just say what you wanna say?

You're for open borders and you wholeheartedly support those policies. If this wasn't the case, you would be criticizing the politicians who are enthusiastically for this.
 

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Not exactly true. We will be paid.

Do members of the military get paid during a shutdown?

Only once Congress acts. According to the Department of Defense, the military, along with "essential" civilians, will not be paid until funds are appropriated. Troops will continue to earn their paychecks but won't receive them unless and until a new spending bill that includes backpay is passed.
The 1.3 million uniformed military personnel will still be on duty and national security operations will continue. But paychecks will be further delayed if the shutdown lasts beyond Feb. 1, because pay is issued only twice a month, on the first and the 15th.

"Congress has to go back after the shutdown is over and vote to pay them for the time during the furlough," Office and Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney said on CBS News' "Face the Nation" on Sunday.

"They have to go to work. They will go to work. They will be continuing to guard the country and do the necessary and important work that they're doing. But they have no guarantee of getting paid. And that's not right," added Mulvaney.

Mulvaney said that Congress has voted to pay them retroactively following past shutdowns, a move he says the White House supports. During the 2013 shutdown, Congress appropriated money on a bipartisan basis to keep troops' paychecks coming.

But on Friday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell objected to up a motion to pay troops during the shutdown after it was proposed by Sen. Claire McCaskill.

McCaskill tried to fast-track a bill to a vote around 1:30 a.m. to keep the military members paid. McConnell objected, saying, "My hope is that we can restore funding for the entire government before this becomes necessary. I'm going to object for tonight but we'll discuss again tomorrow." The issue wasn't taken up on the Senate floor later Saturday afternoon.

On Sunday, Minority Leader Chuck Schumer slammed McConnell as being the "only person in the U.S. Senate standing in the way of paying our troops."

"Not anybody here, we don't want to use the troops as hostages. Unfortunately some on the other side may be doing just that. We could make sure our troops get paid right now if the majority leader would only consent," added Schumer.

While McConnell did not specifically bring up the issue of military pay during his speech on the Senate floor Sunday, he said "Secretary Mattis, our military leaders, and our governors" want lawmakers to end of the shutdown, saying "today is the right day to do it."
Meanwhile, as Vice President Mike Pence spoke to troops stationed near the Syrian border, he continue to slam Congressional Democrats for "playing politics with military pay."
"You and your families shouldn't have to worry for one minute whether you are going to get paid as you serve in the uniform of the United States," Pence said.

He said that he and President Trump are "not going to put up with it" and demanded Congress to re-open the government.

"We aren't going to re-open negotiations on illegal immigration until they re-open the government and give you our soldiers and your families the benefits and wages you've earned."
 

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Do members of the military get paid during a shutdown?

Only once Congress acts. According to the Department of Defense, the military, along with "essential" civilians, will not be paid until funds are appropriated. Troops will continue to earn their paychecks but won't receive them unless and until a new spending bill that includes backpay is passed.
The 1.3 million uniformed military personnel will still be on duty and national security operations will continue. But paychecks will be further delayed if the shutdown lasts beyond Feb. 1, because pay is issued only twice a month, on the first and the 15th.

"Congress has to go back after the shutdown is over and vote to pay them for the time during the furlough," Office and Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney said on CBS News' "Face the Nation" on Sunday.

"They have to go to work. They will go to work. They will be continuing to guard the country and do the necessary and important work that they're doing. But they have no guarantee of getting paid. And that's not right," added Mulvaney.

Mulvaney said that Congress has voted to pay them retroactively following past shutdowns, a move he says the White House supports. During the 2013 shutdown, Congress appropriated money on a bipartisan basis to keep troops' paychecks coming.

But on Friday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell objected to up a motion to pay troops during the shutdown after it was proposed by Sen. Claire McCaskill.

McCaskill tried to fast-track a bill to a vote around 1:30 a.m. to keep the military members paid. McConnell objected, saying, "My hope is that we can restore funding for the entire government before this becomes necessary. I'm going to object for tonight but we'll discuss again tomorrow." The issue wasn't taken up on the Senate floor later Saturday afternoon.

On Sunday, Minority Leader Chuck Schumer slammed McConnell as being the "only person in the U.S. Senate standing in the way of paying our troops."

"Not anybody here, we don't want to use the troops as hostages. Unfortunately some on the other side may be doing just that. We could make sure our troops get paid right now if the majority leader would only consent," added Schumer.

While McConnell did not specifically bring up the issue of military pay during his speech on the Senate floor Sunday, he said "Secretary Mattis, our military leaders, and our governors" want lawmakers to end of the shutdown, saying "today is the right day to do it."
Meanwhile, as Vice President Mike Pence spoke to troops stationed near the Syrian border, he continue to slam Congressional Democrats for "playing politics with military pay."
"You and your families shouldn't have to worry for one minute whether you are going to get paid as you serve in the uniform of the United States," Pence said.

He said that he and President Trump are "not going to put up with it" and demanded Congress to re-open the government.

"We aren't going to re-open negotiations on illegal immigration until they re-open the government and give you our soldiers and your families the benefits and wages you've earned."

I went through this in 2013 for 16 days, there was no lapse in my pay.
 

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Obviously based on your posts in this thread (God I gotta spell it out for you) you're for illegals staying in the States. Well if that's the case then remove locks from your doors and let all people into your home un-vetted. If it's Ok for the nation then surely it's Ok for your home.

What are you rambling about...? Neither your former or later analogy making any sense...not even going to bother pointing out the flaws as anyone reading it can see for themselves...
 

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We all know what side of the street Pasiley walks.

It's not a problem
 

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What are you rambling about...? Neither your former or later analogy making any sense...not even going to bother pointing out the flaws as anyone reading it can see for themselves...

LOL, man you're dense! Greenbacks pointed out numerous times of illegal people coming here from shit hole countries and your responses are why so much hate and are you a native. This shows that you our against Greenbacks view therefore you support the illegals. There I'm really spelling it out for you. Therefore if you support these illegals my question to you is, do you have locks on your door? If you do, you should not, because if you believe the country cannot vet who comes into their country then practice what you preach and DO NOT VET anyone that comes to your home! Get rid of your front and welcome all to your home!
 

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