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Thats what you aren't understanding. It is not a secret. The Federal Reserve has come out numerous times saying they want to increase price levels and inflation. That's code word for devaluation. They do everything they can to generate inflation.


Okay

But , why use 'code' ? Why not speak the truth/candid - 'we can't compete with Asia, we have to devalue our dollar. Our govt has no balls'

Whatcha think? Answer directly. Thanks
 

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Well according to multiple sources like the NY Times, Washington Post, CNN Money, slate.com, financial times, business insider, the economist, etc, Japan has gone through lost decades. Since 1991, Japan has had only 1 quarter of over 2% growth, despite their debt/GDP ratio tripling. America has had over 10 quarters of over 5% growth despite our debt/GDP ratio not even doubling.

What part of their population declining does not register with you. I even showed you their GDP per Capita growing faster than the United States. Why do you think that is? Just think logically for a second and stop your anti-Govt effort.
 

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Okay

But , why use 'code' ? Why not speak the truth/candid - 'we can't compete with Asia, we have to devalue our dollar. Our govt has no balls'

Whatcha think? Answer directly. Thanks

Because they aren't trying to speak to the conspiracy theorists out there. And we produced aalmost a quarter of the worlds output last year. We do compete with China even though they have 3.5 times more people than us.
 

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What part of their population declining does not register with you. I even showed you their GDP per Capita growing faster than the United States. Why do you think that is? Just think logically for a second and stop your anti-Govt effort.
You're starting that chart from 1980. Start it in 91 or 92, and America has Japan beat in GDP per capita growth. Just eyeballing it on another chart, it looks like Japan's GDP per capita in that time has increased by around 5k, while ours has increased by around 10k. Their stock market is a fraction of its all time high it reached in the late 80s, and their growth has been pathetic.
 

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Now you are just being stubborn. Japan's real GDP per capita has increased over 20% in the last two decades. The reason they call it the "lost decades" is because their overall growth has been anemic. But like I said, you have a declining population and a culture that saves money. They have healthcare paid for, they have increased their standard of living, they have increased their exports, they've accumulated over $1 trillion of our debt, they have low unemployment.

I mean come on, if you are going to preach your ridiculous Austrian anti-Govt theories at least find a country that is doing worse off. For some reason Japan and the US continue to grow and their standard of living continues to increase. By your logic, that should be impossible. You are being very stubborn here and cherry pickin data again.
 

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went to dinner with 5 couples last night in Stamford, a bunch of taxpaying citizens, 10 votes for Romney, and we talked briefly about the election. We all were saying the right thing, we want what's best for the country and we hope things will be better than we anticipate.

then one guy, probably the best and most honest person among us says, "we're going to be fine, if they economy tanks and their shithole gets bigger, fuck them". We laughed because it was totally out of character for him, but then our conversation went down that path.

OK, so let's give them want they want. They suffered the most, they're doing far worse then they were in 2008, their families have been destroyed by the same policies they vote for every 4 four years, the same empty broken promises every four years for 50 years and counting. If they want to continue down this path, fuck them, maybe they need to bottom out before reality sets in.

So, "let them have what they want", it's their problem.

"I like it"

"all in"

Was this dinner at a swingers club?
 

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What part of their population declining does not register with you. I even showed you their GDP per Capita growing faster than the United States. Why do you think that is? Just think logically for a second and stop your anti-Govt effort.

Japan's problems and devaluation of the yen was because of population declines, please tell me youre joking. They tried at least 10 stimulus's over a 10-15 year period (OR EXACTLY WHAT YOU ADVOCATE), If i wasnt on post review i would be more candid.
 

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Japan's problems and devaluation of the yen was because of population declines, please tell me youre joking. They tried at least 10 stimulus's over a 10-15 year period (OR EXACTLY WHAT YOU ADVOCATE), If i wasnt on post review i would be more candid.

First you have to establish what problems you are talking about. And feel free to act like an idiot towards me. I kind of enjoy you acting bat shit crazy over shit you are clearly wrong about.
 

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The data doesn't lie, only people like you do

Show me where the standard of living in the US has been rising, i WOULD love to see this. If you think the standard of living is rising these last few years, you need to get out of daddys basement and take a look around.
 

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Show me where the standard of living in the US has been rising, i WOULD love to see this. If you think the standard of living is rising these last few years, you need to get out of daddys basement and take a look around.

And this is only from 2009-2010. It's grown even more since 2010. Been a tough month for you. Do you ever get sick of me making you look like an idiot?

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For some reason our standard of living continues to grow, despite how monstrous our Government is and how destructive inflation is. Maybe people like fletch are idiots (guitarjosh is just misinformed, not an idiot). Unfortunately for them, the data does not coincide with their fear mongering theories.

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To answer your question in # 52, no, it looks like he DOESN'T get tired of you cleaning his clock. What's the over/under on him responding by discrediting your source? "Yes" -1500?:laugh:@):nohead:
 

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where does 16% minority unemployment, increasing welfare, increasing use of food stamps, record high foreclosures and the total decay of the inner city family reflected in fratfraud's world of delusion?


"I got me an Obamaphone", that's evidently his improved standard of living for them
 

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where does 16% minority unemployment, increasing welfare, increasing use of food stamps, record high foreclosures and the total decay of the inner city family reflected in fratfraud's world of delusion?


"I got me an Obamaphone", that's evidently his improved standard of living for them

Why do you guys always try to make a quote of one into a quote of all? Same mentality you guys use for people on welfare....i guess you will just never understand that the people you quote and use for examples are not the majority of those groups. Must come from being so protected in your own bubble....you should really spend some time with the groups you demonize...i think you would find they are nothing like fox news and repub media makes them out to be. Time to step out of the bubble.
 

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come on man, "you guys" and not youse guys? really?

and I didn't even do what you says Isa did

read my words as they are written, don't do none of that there between the lines stuff wit me
 

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Because they aren't trying to speak to the conspiracy theorists out there. And we produced aalmost a quarter of the worlds output last year. We do compete with China even though they have 3.5 times more people than us.


Conspricacy theorists? No . They're not that blunt so as not to upset the masses, hence
their use of 'code', as you called it. And yeah, we agree- without a change in policy they must devalue the dollar.

Compete with China? No , in various sectors, you cannot compete. Thats why US companies build plants in
far east. It's estimated that by 2025 China will trump USA with the planets largest economy.
 

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