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For those out there betting this game, there is one more significant change from last years' National Champion.


I can't recall when any College team ever repeated as National Champion from the prior year - that lost an NFL grade QB - and won the following year without him.
 

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I’m curious about Heisman jinx too…how many got to Ship and lost or didn’t cover…I’m sure I can dig that out unless someone else found.
 

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Nice to know there is still interest out there from adversaries...LOL

Nothing I wrote was Innacurate about the defensive play in the second half. I watched the game unfold and the defense was far better in the second half and leaked like a sieve in the first. Adjustments were made and were focused on stopping the passing game. 5 DB's were no longer moved up for the run game. Nothing inaccurate about that.



"Total" bets are a way to say a person can't find a way to justify a side.
Some guys do better on totals. GL
Who likes the over or under? 52.

FWIW. I believe that at the end of the game the point spread wont be included in the outcome for either side.

you said uga started using 5 dbs in the second half. Not true. They played their 5 db package all game long.

defense might have played better in second half, but it’s not because they started using 5 dbs all of a sudden.

Alabama punted 2 times in first half, 3 in the second.

Alabama was better on 3rd down, Alabama had more explosive plays,
And alabama won the turnover battle. The teams that win those again will win the game
 

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what total do you like... thanks

right now I think the number is dead on but I think lots of times when a game is high scoring one time the next it isn’t.

first game 65 points scored, with a pick 6, and quiet a few explosive plays. Last 4 mins or 1st half and first 4 of second half there were 3-4 scores.

I’m looking at the under. With Alabama being without a main weapon at wideout and uga hopefully going to put some more emphasis on running the ball in game 2. But waiting to see what the number does. Think public will be on the over closer to kick and hoping it gets bet up to 54 or higher.

value is the key, don’t bet just to bet, the number has to make sense. So hoping to see some movement. Typically public bets overs, so I’m again hopeful to see some movement to create some value
 

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For those out there betting this game, there is one more significant change from last years' National Champion.


I can't recall when any College team ever repeated as National Champion from the prior year - that lost an NFL grade QB - and won the following year without him.

since 1980. Only 3 teams have even repeated (alabama, usc, Nebraska) …. Even One of those debatable because it one of the years it was split.
 

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I’m curious about Heisman jinx too…how many got to Ship and lost or didn’t cover…I’m sure I can dig that out unless someone else found.

not sure how many got there and didn’t win it. Might not be that many people that actually played in the game seeing that the national championship game has only been around a for a lilttle while.

I’d be curious to know if any got to the game and lost… I know both mayfield and Murray lost in the playoff I think before the champ game though

burrow and smith are the last two and both won it.
 

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This is PARTIALLY Correct. Like Doc said , last 2 won

prevalent from 2003 to 2008, when six Heisman Trophy winners compiled a cumulative 1–5 bowl game record, and five of those six led number one ranked teams into the Bowl Championship Series (BCS) National Championship Game as favorites (Heisman Trophy winners, including Reggie Bush, who gave back his Heisman Trophy, are 4–8 overall in the BCS National Championship Game and College Football Playoff National Championship, although prior to 2009 they were 1–6)

Someone can clean this up since it’s just a copy paste…
 

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Just a side note: FWIW
I was reading some opinions from some capper newsletters today that were released later this week, several days after I posted my play on this game.

In summary - all the reasons were why they thought Alabama was going to win SU Monday and cover the line.

Many here have focused on WR John Metchie being out for Bama. Its true, that losing any top WR in a game would have an impact.

If what I wrote in my first post earlier this week, was right about the spread being lowered from 6-to- 3 in the rematch - you would expect the line to go up with such a top WR out for the second game with these two but the masses are still on Alabama at 63%?

My explanation was how the masses are on Bama and Vegas opened at -3. In spite of the mass bettors still all over Alabama and the fact that they no longer have Metchie, this line hasn't changed. In fact its been lowered to 2.5. Again another small move in favor of Georgia.

If anything - the line should have opened at pk with that SU loss. Instead they moved it in their favor by only 3 points against the public from the first game, knowing that money was still going to be pouring in on Bama.
At pk they might have had more of a balance on the action?

I dont know if Im right until I win, but I can't recall one game in pro or college that didnt move the line to compensate for a loss that big with a starter out and then actually go in the wrong direction.

In my opinion, that makes me believe that Vegas has the public right where they wanted all along and found no betting changes in the masses, on the team that won SU as a 6 pt dog in the first game.

This game reminds me of my Super Bowl analysis last year when they gave Tampa the same line in the SB that KC gave them earlier in the year.
Yet - what I knew in changes after that first game - made my play on Tampa easy. They held the masses again on KC and cashed big on the losses for the Chiefs.
Those masses were on the team that won the fist game SU between those two.
Lets hope I'm right again..
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Metchie has been out since the SeCCG. It was built into the line that was made.

also your numbers about 63 percent being on bama is wrong.

finally, Vegas doesn’t want to move the line because uga will flood in late, they are just waiting on the right number not taking the first thing that is thrown at them.

at kick, the handle but more importantly the money will be about even

the game will be about who wins on the field, not about what side Vegas wants to win. Vegas got creamed in the seccg and the line moved toward uga
 

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I’ll also say again—-

the original seccg line was -3 as well, the same one this currently is. It was bet up to 6 and even 7 quickly by Alabama’s poor showing against auburn.

Vegas views the game the same as it did a month ago. There are no tricks.

most uga bettors, unlike you, know that they’ll get a better line than3 closer to kick. That’s why there wasn’t a ton of uga money earlier, however it’s flooding in now

vsgaa was smart enough not to move to the line to create a middle. It’ll be an even money game and Vegas will make their standard tax on the vig and dumb bets people make
 
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All I have seen is everyone touting GA as a winner already...

BOL... one of us wins... and vegas wins as usual with all the juice...
 

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Metchie has been out since the SeCCG. It was built into the line that was made.

also your numbers about 63 percent being on bama is wrong.


finally, Vegas doesn’t want to move the line because uga will flood in late, they are just waiting on the right number not taking the first thing that is thrown at them.

at kick, the handle but more importantly the money will be about even

the game will be about who wins on the field, not about what side Vegas wants to win. Vegas got creamed in the seccg and
the line moved toward uga
The only thing thats built into the line is your conditioning. How does any team get less points for having a key player out. Bullshit.

Im Not wrong at all. Covers posted live consensus every day and its been that way every day between 63-65%.
I dont understand why you jump in here to try and find stupid stuff to say Im wrong about. Go there and see for yourself..
Its typically the same as any other site...

In addition Metchie DID play in the last game. He caught 6 passes for 97 yards.
He is still the factor they are missing that they had in the first game and the line should have gone up - not down. You make no sense arguing about this game.

Like I said over and over vegas has the masses right were they want them.

GA money Flood in late? LOL - well see.

Vegas got creamed???
According to numbers I saw - only 41% were on Alabama last game against Georgia..
Now they have 63% on them and are keeping them there..



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Georgia money is already rolling in and has rolled in. Money will be even if not on UgA by kick.

you are the conditioned gambler if you are believing covers numbers.

they opened at 3, to be sure to get Alabama money. The masses will be and are going to be on uga by kick. If they opened at a pick they don’t get the Alabama money. You will be on the public side at kick buddy.

again could care less the side winner… but again shows what you don’t know about vegas
 

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Georgia money is already rolling in and has rolled in. Money will be even if not on UgA by kick.

you are the conditioned gambler if you are believing covers numbers.

they opened at 3, to be sure to get Alabama money. The masses will be and are going to be on uga by kick. If they opened at a pick they don’t get the Alabama money. You will be on the public side at kick buddy.

again could care less the side winner… but again shows what you don’t know about vegas
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Nice to know there is still interest out there from adversaries...LOL

Nothing I wrote was Innacurate about the defensive play in the second half. I watched the game unfold and the defense was far better in the second half and leaked like a sieve in the first. Adjustments were made and were focused on stopping the passing game. 5 DB's were no longer moved up for the run game. Nothing inaccurate about that.



"Total" bets are a way to say a person can't find a way to justify a side.
Some guys do better on totals. GL
Who likes the over or under? 52.

FWIW. I believe that at the end of the game the point spread wont be included in the outcome for either side.
I agree about the outcome. If Alabama loses it will be by 13+
 

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no reason to make Ga a fave.....Bama has beat em 7 straight.......any list of Ga. victories I look at has got at least one loss to Bama on it.....does 41-24 sound familiar ? last two were identical scores.....they want EVERYBODY on Alabama.......Can't play that
 

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DOC you should be setting the numbers for the games, you know more than everyone here on the Forum. I can't seem to find your threads with your picks, am I just being cut out from them?
 

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G Man what a great bowl season you've had. Thank you as you've made me lots of money! Continued success.
 

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Doc no picks GMan alot of picks….Gman winner!!!!

nobody care about information when no post picks

Here are four possible outcome: pick 1 please…can pick maximum of 2 outcomes

1:Georgia and Over
2.Bama and Over
3.Georgia and Under
4.Bama and Under
 

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my #1 is Georgia-2.5 and under 52.5

my #2 is Alabama+2.5 and Under 52.5

i guess I like Under
 
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