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Why is it that no one mentions that the bin Laden family has disowned Osama for his terrorist funding? They want him out of circulation too.

Yes, most of the terrorists on 9/11 were Saudis. But all of the terrorists in the OKC bombing were Americans. Should we blame our whole country for this? No. We shouldn't blame the Saudis for a few nutjobs that happen to formerly live in their country.
 

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I'd rather have a President lie about Sex then lie about another country to validate his reason to invade it. :breakit:
What about Somalia? What about the aspirin factory Clinton blew up in Africa?
 

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Lobbing a couple of missles is not exactly invading a country like Bush did with iraq
 

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I remember the morning of 9/11 very vividly. On my way back from a bagel store I heard the first report on the radio. I swear the guy said a "missle" had hit one of the world trade towers. I got home and flipped on the TV and the first reports from what I can remember were still not sure if it was an accident or a terrorist attack and then the 2nd plane hit and of course we all knew. Everybody reacted slowing that day. 7 minutes is not that long. What the hell could he have really done in 7 minutes without more information on whether it was an attack or just an accident? Hell, when the planes were hijacked it took the FAA and others a long time to alert anyone.
Why not just be mad at the terrorists and not Bush!!! What the hell did Clinton do for 8 YEARS about terrorism besides get a BJ in the Oval (he probably called it Oral) office!!! :mad: Some of you people amaze me! :neenee:
great points, AGREED ON ALL, no one blames bush for 911 but the war in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:country-region><st1:place>iraq</st1:place></st1:country-region> has turned into a circus that you have to reorganize and obtain your objective, do it quickly

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whats happening now is that iran is getting a lot of power by breaking the sunni power hold and the shite are becoming very powerful and this is not a good thing by any means, they make deals with these shady characters that cant be trusted and will have guns on us like we had with bin ladin and saddam and plenty of others

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it’s a problem of having a foreign policy of whats good for us now and the future will figure itself out

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why haven’t we taken bin ladin down, why didn’t we invade <st1:country-region><st1:place>Afghanistan</st1:place></st1:country-region> like we did <st1:country-region><st1:place>iraq</st1:place></st1:country-region>??

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what happens in falluja doesnt kill 3000 in lower manhattan, lets agree on that, i mean if the way he treated his people the true reason for war, than why did bush senior stop short of doing anything about regime change, lets be real, the first war only hurt the actual iraqi people they suffered as a result, sanctions - no medicine, food etc, we now hold this - liberation of the iraqi people as the reason and reward - fukk but if it were that bad and we knew it 15 years ago....why wait<o:p></o:p>

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Why did we invade <st1:country-region><st1:place>iraq</st1:place></st1:country-region> when the bigger problem was in <st1:country-region><st1:place>afghanistan</st1:place></st1:country-region>??

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Why deal with this rat musharaf??? he helped put most of the guys were hunting on the map

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Todays reality is that most of the muslim world believes that dubyas on a muslim war path, simple, they support all of these extremists, they had a pakastani guy on tv saying that musharaf should be killed and that most people today name their kids osama lol

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There have been reports that osama was treated in a hospital 3-4 months ago in <st1:City><st1:place>Karachi</st1:place></st1:City>, http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow/789042.cms<o:p></o:p>

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the question is, did they ever want to get this guy?? We didn’t do enough in an effort to catch him, we shifted focus to falluja

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what happens in falluja doesnt kill 3000 in lower manhattan, lets agree on that, i mean if the way he treated his people is ending up to be the reward as theres no wmd’s yet and so now the only reward is that we liberated the people of iraq, they can now vote……………….then why didnt bush senior carry out the regime change???

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Dubya, when being interviewd by oreilly, and asked about iraq, puts on that stupid smile and talks about Iraqis playing soccer in the olympics and being able to vote, what he doesn’t say is that in 15 years they will have a grenade up your kids ass cause they just don’t like us, I wonder if he can say the same **** to a dead GI’s parents

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lets be real, the first war only hurt the actual iraqi people they suffered as a result, sanctions - no medicine, food etc

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we backed him when he gassed iranians, we had no problem as it was good for us then<o:p></o:p>

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WHATS THE MORAL OF THE STORY…..WE NEED TO MAKE AN INFORMED VOTE COME ELECTION DAY…………………………….

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I WILL VOTE FOR REGAN


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If OBL was in a hospital in Pakistan, then there are a lot of hospital workers who don't need $50 million.
 

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I love how these gullables open their veins to Fahrenheit 911 for the first time, believe everything in the movie's content as if it was 100% true and unbiased, and come out feeling so incredibly enlightened, as if someone handed them the keys to the universe and now everything makes sense. "Did you know.....?" (Walk of Life)...get a life.
 

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American said:
I love how these gullables open their veins to Fahrenheit 911 for the first time, believe everything in the movie's content as if it was 100% true and unbiased, and come out feeling so incredibly enlightened, as if someone handed them the keys to the universe and now everything makes sense. "Did you know.....?" (Walk of Life)...get a life.
In other words, you didn't bother to watch the documentary, but "just know" that if must be full of lies because God told George to tell Karl to convince you that George is a nice, down-to-earth rich (inherited) kid. I bet if he wasn't battling alcoholism that he might even be a "cool guy to grab a beer with."
 

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This is the stupidest comment I have ever seen on these boards:

"The Iraq's never posed a threat to us."

While there is no clear evidence (so far) that Saddam had operational stockpiles of WMD when
the US-led coalition attacked Iraq in March 2003, there is conclusive evidence that:

1. Iraq had developed, manufactured and used such weapons in the past.
2. Saddam had ambitions of doing so in the future.
3. If Saddam really had zero weapons, he did one heck of a job bluffing us (and Iran, Israel, Great Britain and others) into thinking he did ( I guess the bioweapons 'traces' and yellowcake found don't count!)
4. It doesn't really matter whether he "had" weapons." The '91 armistice required him to PROVE the destruction of EXISTING weapons. He failed and refused to do this. Restarting the war was the proper (and only) remedy.
5. Iraq had harbored, sponsored and supported terrorists, including possibly al-Qaeda. He was funding homicide bombers by giving $25,000.00 per family. I guess Saddam was not an international terrorist. Remember the American in the wheelchair thrown off the Aquile Lauro? Guess where the head terrorist was living under diplomatic immunity? The list here could go on a long time....
6. Saddam was dangerous and had a track record of reckless and belligerent actions: He is and was a world-class tyrant, butcher and megalomaniac. He was clearly guilty of war crimes, crimes against humanity, mass murder, murder for hire, rape, production of child pornography and obscenity, kidnapping, torture, grand theft, forgery, fraud and countless conspiracies.
7. Over 30 war planes, many capable of carrying WMD were recently found buried in the Iraqui desert. http://www.snopes.com/photos/military/sandplanes.asp If it took that long to find an air force, what makes you think that we've completely scrubbed the entire country for vials of biological weapons or other WMDs? "the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." Can you prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt that he didn't have WMDs?
8. Tens of thousands of Iraqi & Kurdish citizens were also found buried in that desert, most of them killed by Chemical Weapons.
9. A mobile weapons lab was recently found in Iraq:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40777

10. And finally, and perhaps most importantly, all that is temporarily "proven" by the investigation to date is that Saddam didn't have them AFTER the invasion, but he had many months to relocate them. If the U.S. hadn't threatened and then attacked Iraq, those weapons would still have been in Iraq, and probably being sent by Saddam Hussein to be used against U.S. forces after an invasion of Iran.
 

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It's difficult to get through to some the libs walking around in a daze after baptizing themselves in the holy water of fat-ass' Fahrenheit 911.
 

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Kenny,
If you step back and read your immensely ignorant post very slowly ... I think any reasonable man would say that you're trying to find facts (or invent many of them, in your and Dubya's case) to support an idea (pre-drawn neo-con/naze conslusion).

Despite what George may have told you about what might have God told him -- this is simply not the manner in which logical conslusions are derived at.
 

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What is clear (besides Kenny's ignorance) is :
1. The large majority of our attackers were Saudi extremists. NOTHING was done to Saudi except to tell the FAA that we need to make special arrangements to fly the attackers family and/or Bush business partners out of the country.

2. Bin Laden has not been captured. There is a MUCH greater chance that we would have captured him if fuking retards like Bush and Kenny would have actually thought it was sensible to attack him instead of a country that didn't attack us.

3. Iraq is less stable that it was before dum dum attacked them. They are becoming a terrorist haven. Killing civilians, torturing Iraqi captives and taking no accountability are the perfect ingredients for creating future terrorists. Thank you a$$hole Bush -- now our children and grandchildren have more enemies.

Bottom line - we attacked a country that posed no immediate threat while the mastermind of 9/11 has escaped justice. There are now nuclear weapons in Korea & likely to be some in Iran in the near future.

Bush has created more enemies and made us more susceptible to being attacked.

Waive your elephant flags all you want -- it doesn't change the facts.
 

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Almost every thing that Moore presented in that movie as fact has been disproven. The left side depend on the naive for votes... This movie serves it's purpose by pulling undecided nitwits to the left.

No offense to anyone...but this movie is a mockumentary.
 

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Entertaining yes, informative no. Anyone that watches that movie to get important information should not be allowed to vote. It is like watching democractic and republican spin artists and deciding based upong their half-truths, who you want for president.

do some real research instead of trying to learn about the world from a movie.
 

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"While there is no clear evidence (so far) that Saddam had operational stockpiles of WMD "
Why don't you read your comment again! okay, so there is no CLEAR evidence of WMD. My president told me that's why we were invading Iraq. I suppose I could go on blind faith and believe him but, the only thing I have blind faith in is God, not Bush or Kerry.
 

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Sadam was paying $25,000 to the families of suicide bombers in Israel, that makes him an international terrorist. Saddam was harboring terrorists under diplomatic immunity in Baghdad (see Aquile Lauro).

Radical Islam has already declared war on America before Iraq. To say that we have more enemies is ridiculous.

I say that the US is fighting the terrorists in Iraq instead of over here.

I say the USA is a safer place.

Last, for those that are defending Michael Moore, he was against the US attacking Afghanistan. I guess the US had no right to do that either?
 

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Kenny B said:
Sadam was paying $25,000 to the families of suicide bombers in Israel, that makes him an international terrorist. Saddam was harboring terrorists under diplomatic immunity in Baghdad (see Aquile Lauro).

Radical Islam has already declared war on America before Iraq. To say that we have more enemies is ridiculous.

I say that the US is fighting the terrorists in Iraq instead of over here.

I say the USA is a safer place.

Last, for those that are defending Michael Moore, he was against the US attacking Afghanistan. I guess the US had no right to do that either?
i heard moore saying (oreilly show) that he wouldnt have done what bush did with afghanistan but instead sent in special forces to hunt OBM and not carry on these big show of forces and really not doing what were there to do......we paid afghans $1000 a month to hunt him on the ground in tora bora area and we directed the show from above (planes etc)

agreed on iraq, but we should have a plan and there doesnt seem like there really is one.......
 

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Propaganda 9-11 is no documentary, it's fiction at best and filled with outright lies from beginning to end.
 

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I go to the gas station and the cheapest gas here in Vegas is $ 2.25 ! Anyone who really believes that the Bush family made none of their $$ in oil is simply in a fantasy world and We can add Cheney to that group also with his Halliburton connection. Thousands of our soldiers have died in Iraq in this senseless war that Bush started because of the Weapons of Mass destruction that Saddam had been stockpilling there. Anyone who actually believes that there were weapons of Mass destruction there or that our soldiers and civilians aren,t dying in Iraq again are living in a fantasy world. When Bush took office, our politicains were arguing about where to spend the huge surplus. Well Bush has at least solved that problem. He has not only spent all of Clinton,s surplus but now We have a huge deficit in the Trillions that will take our children years to pay off. And let's all rush to the polls and vote bush in office for 4 more years of this ?
And I am naive ?
 

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