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But I love The Judge, I just wish he would make his own lines.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> The sharpies I know can KILL a book that simply clones their lines from other sports books on the Don Best feed. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I didn't think I was twisting the words.. If sharp players can kill clone lines then why are they always bitching about them?
 

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I personally don't give a hoot what numbers/odds BM's wish to serve up...just honor what's posted...if the price is right I'll buy, if not, I'll pass.


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MAX..........ditto i agree..


the reason i started this thread was to hear from my favorite "pseudo" bookmakers...

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was dissapointed in their replies though.................
 

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Judge and Dime,

I've been around this site for a couple of years now and that includes lurking across the street. All I hear is the same few screaming over and over about clone lines and saying no one's a bookmaker anymore. If it's that f*cking easy then why don't they take some cash, move south, open up and bust the world? There's one major factor that's changed bookmaking in the last 5 years. THE INTERNET. That tool that allows them to try to scalp and middle while sitting watching DB is the same tool that's changed everything. But they want it both ways. They'd like to watch DB and see 3pt middles on Sunday. Who wouldn't? It's like they think they're rocket scientists and the rest of the world is inhabited by morons.
 

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maxy good post

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not clone lines, probably missing a few others
 

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I think anyone with a bankroll can book bets successfully by having Don Best and limiting bets to $1,000 max. You won't get any real players with the low limits.

I respect the job of the linesmaker, but I don't think it's really necessary these days.

By the way, another "non-clone" book would be Stardust. They don't take any action though.

David
 

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By the way, there is a lot more to running a sports book than booking bets. There is marketing, avoiding people opening 4 or 5 accounts under different names, customer service, and probably a whole world of things I don't know.

My comments above are only concerning setting the line where you take action.

I do think the really sharp places like Pinnacle, and Olympic can make more money by having sharper lines, but the Don Best "average" line is probably good enough for most as long as you don't take big action.

David
 

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JJ,actually I give more credence to Cris' and Grande's #'s than to Spiro's.I only use Don Best as a guide.I book to my action.
 

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I agree with shrink that cloning numbers is not the way to go.

From a players perspective, I don't care which side the number is, if it sharp or square, but if you have the same number I can get at any other shop everytime, why would I play with you???
 

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Cecil,

Good pt. That's why customer svc, software, quick pay and marketing are so important.
 

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cecil, you are right about players not having any use for clone numbers, but now lots of books are taking the attitude that if you are looking for an extra 1/2 point or God forbid a whole point better than the clone line, then THEY do not want to deal with YOU because you must be a wiseguy or something. It is getting quite pathetic out there. And by the way, that spinning ball is starting to hypnotize me.
 

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DAVID MATHEWS.........im glad you stated "that a person can book successfully using d.b. and limiting action to a 1k"

that should start a stampede of people opening new books, which in no time are sure to go belly-up.........


some people fantasize about sex........i fantasize about what you just said... some guys starting a book with deep pockets, using don best...hell i dont need a dime limit........nickle will be fine....

seriously, though using dbs2k would keep the lines sharp,
but not having a clue on how to work the book would get you into trouble with even the squarest book, if your not careful...

btw...i have seen guys go through 6 figures on dime limits....both their way and the books.. in no time at all..
 
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by max1234:
Cecil,

Good pt. That's why customer svc, software, quick pay and marketing are so important.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Max, you forgot the single most important(and most damaging one for the books)....the bonus.
 

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