draft 11th of 12 in a ppr league...which direction do i even go here

[seanm0520]

As much as I defend him, I probably won't be the one taking Vick in a snake draft. I just can't spend a first rounder on such a risk/reward player. However, I mostly play auctions so Vick is a possibility there.

 

[Mlink]

They're hurt in preseason, I'm not overly concerned yet. But with the hire of Mudd as line coach, the line WILL be better this year. And Watkins was NFL-ready coming out.

he was NFL ready coming out of baylor? okkk... btw eagles just signed reggie wells and the quote from the philly papers




From Les Bowen of the Philadelphia Daily News: “Reggie Wells??!! This o-line might be in way more trouble than we thought. . . . Don’t get Reggie Wells at all. Are they moving Herremans to tackle? Is Ryan Harris done?”
The Eagles don’t seem to have an easy solution at right tackle because of injuries. Harris and Winston Justice are both hurt.

 

[PatsFan1283]

his QBR in the last 5 weeks went from 100-97-90-77-70

going into this season coaches have entire offseason to plan for him, sketch out a D to contain him like the packers did, and the vikings and the giants in the 1st half of that debacle of a game.... just gotta slide him to his right and he isnt going to make throws

I actually agree with you completely that QBs are highly overrated in FF. With all the passing in the NFL your gonna start to have years where 10-12 QBs putup #s so its like there is a good 1 for every team. I think Vick is unique cause the rushing stats but other than him I'd take a QB late all day. I don't even mean Matt Ryan 9-10 ranked range late, I mean like Stafford/Flacco/Eli 14-15 range late.

 

[Mlink]

As much as I defend him, I probably won't be the one taking Vick in a snake draft. I just can't spend a first rounder on such a risk/reward player. However, I mostly play auctions so Vick is a possibility there.

as i said...my opinion and prediction mccoy finishes top 3 in PPR leagues when its all said and done he is gonna be a stud...love him on the eagles

 

[PatsFan1283]

as i said...my opinion and prediction mccoy finishes top 3 in PPR leagues when its all said and done he is gonna be a stud...love him on the eagles

Lol, isn't that pretty contradictory? You think Vick is due for a rude awakening, you think their OL is in trouble but yet their RB is gonna have a great year? Sounds like if your other Eagles predictions come through he is gonna be swimming upstream

 

[Mlink]

I actually agree with you completely that QBs are highly overrated in FF. With all the passing in the NFL your gonna start to have years where 10-12 QBs putup #s so its like there is a good 1 for every team. I think Vick is unique cause the rushing stats but other than him I'd take a QB late all day. I don't even mean Matt Ryan 9-10 ranked range late, I mean like Stafford/Flacco/Eli 14-15 range late.

eli is not 14-15 range just saying finished 9 last year, and orton obviously wont finish in front of eli this year as i dont think he is starter by opening day.. i think stafford has a good year, i just love those late QBs, get 2 of them platoon them on matchups grab one in 6 or 7 then a late flyer on one and you are set...

 

[CHOPTALK]

vick is not going to play 16 games bro.... he never has, never will, this year will not be different...that is why i am basing my fact as 3.75 per game...

I guess that settles it then.

Because Mlink said it cant happen it wont happen.

 

[Mlink]

Lol, isn't that pretty contradictory? You think Vick is due for a rude awakening, you think their OL is in trouble but yet their RB is gonna have a great year? Sounds like if your other Eagles predictions come through he is gonna be swimming upstream

actually a worse OL helps mccoy, if you ever seen the eagles offense its screen screen dump off dump off type offense... that is my point and it is not contradictory.. how many times you see mccoy off tackle or a wham right? 1 or 2 a game, he isnt a running RB he is a pass catching screen dump off back who is great in space... that is my point about the OL, vick needs a good OL to stay up right....mccoy will be better with a weaker OL who is quick (like they are) for the screens and dumpoffs

 

[Mlink]

I guess that settles it then.

Because Mlink said it cant happen.

why be like that? he wont play 16 games he never has in his 7-8 years of playing you think itll happen now? i am just stating facts

 

[seanm0520]

Lol, isn't that pretty contradictory? You think Vick is due for a rude awakening, you think their OL is in trouble but yet their RB is gonna have a great year? Sounds like if your other Eagles predictions come through he is gonna be swimming upstream

This.

 

[seanm0520]

why be like that? he wont play 16 games he never has in his 7-8 years of playing you think itll happen now? i am just stating facts

He did it in '06. Fact.

 

[PatsFan1283]

eli is not 14-15 range just saying finished 9 last year, and orton obviously wont finish in front of eli this year as i dont think he is starter by opening day.. i think stafford has a good year, i just love those late QBs, get 2 of them platoon them on matchups grab one in 6 or 7 then a late flyer on one and you are set...

Rankigns I look at I see Eli behind Freeman/Ryan/Flacco usually and around 13-15 (Stafford probably gonna go ahead of him in a lot of leagues cause upside)

 

[PatsFan1283]

actually a worse OL helps mccoy, if you ever seen the eagles offense its screen screen dump off dump off type offense... that is my point and it is not contradictory.. how many times you see mccoy off tackle or a wham right? 1 or 2 a game, he isnt a running RB he is a pass catching screen dump off back who is great in space... that is my point about the OL, vick needs a good OL to stay up right....mccoy will be better with a weaker OL who is quick (like they are) for the screens and dumpoffs

I can't actually prove this wrong but its a pretty ridiculous premise. If Vick sucks/gets hurt and their OL is a joke, McCoy will NOT be a top 3 ranked ppr RB. Infact he will likely be an outright bust. Sure he will still putup good recieiving yards but his rushing/TDs will go way down.

 

[Mlink]

This.

this? read my last post about mccoy NOT needing a good OL and vick NEEDING a good OL...mccoy is a dump off back and if vick is flushed he will dump to mccoy and that equals fantasy points for Mccoy in a PPR that is +1 for every dumpoff/screen

 

[CHOPTALK]

why be like that? he wont play 16 games he never has in his 7-8 years of playing you think itll happen now? i am just stating facts

Saints did not win a Super Bowl till 2010
Never had a black president

But of course you saying Vick will get hurt eliminates any of the guess work that any of us would have had.

Mlink is gospel

Oh yea, McCoy has had his share of injuries to, but thats ok lets not talk about that, he dont count.

 

[Mlink]

I can't actually prove this wrong but its a pretty ridiculous premise. If Vick sucks/gets hurt and their OL is a joke, McCoy will NOT be a top 3 ranked ppr RB. Infact he will likely be an outright bust. Sure he will still putup good recieiving yards but his rushing/TDs will go way down.

OL is not a joke, i said it has WORSENED, read what i say before putting words in my mouth... if vick gets hurt why doesnt that make mccoy better? the offense runs around vick now, if he goes down it will make mccoy a better back because he will get more touches

 

[PatsFan1283]

this? read my last post about mccoy NOT needing a good OL and vick NEEDING a good OL...mccoy is a dump off back and if vick is flushed he will dump to mccoy and that equals fantasy points for Mccoy in a PPR that is +1 for every dumpoff/screen

Sounds nice in theory but as we can all attest to. If the QB/OL go in the shitter, I don't really want an RB on that team in FF for the most part.

 

[Mlink]

Saints did not win a Super Bowl till 2010
Never had a black president

But of course you saying Vick will get hurt eliminates any of the guess work that any of us would have had.

Mlink is gospel

Oh yea, McCoy has had his share of injuries to, but thats ok lets not talk about that, he dont count.

mccoy missed 1 game in 2 years

i guess it is not worthy of talking about 155 atts and 207 attempts..........his share of injuries? o boy

 

[PatsFan1283]

Sounds nice in theory but as we can all attest to. If the QB/OL go in the shitter, I don't really want an RB on that team in FF for the most part.

If your scoring less pts, it hurts the offense, this usually hurts the RB significantly.

 

[PatsFan1283]

mccoy missed 1 game in 2 years

i guess it is not worthy of talking about 155 atts and 207 attempts..........his share of injuries? o boy

Vick actually only missed 2 games in 3 years prior to jail so you saying he is injury prone doesn't even have that much validity.