There is no value is betting a 2-1 fav in a 20 horse field.
Especially when 17 of the 20 horses are 10-1 or greater.
Smallest tri payout of the derby in my lifetime. Same with the the super, it only paid $500. Most derby superfectas pay mid to high 5 figures.
4 favorites finished in order. Will probably never see that again.
Disagree. Like last year, the tri payout was a ripoff. To begin with, everyone knows that there is a ton of "stupid money" in the Derby parimutuel pools every year which is why some of the past years payouts were silly great. Last 2 years it seems criminal. In a 20 horse field, those tri's should have paid double what they did. By comparison, Silver Charms Derby the #2,3*5 favorites were in the tri and that paid $200+ and that was a 13 horse field. THIRTEEN!!! Do the math on that one! I know Nyq was 2-1 fav on top but I will keep bringing up that it was a 20 horse field. If you have the time go back and review the KD card from last year. There was a race on that card where the favs finished 123 and the tri paid better than the Derby tri. Very strange. Your example of the mundane Thursday is fine ..but it is not 20 horse field... more like 8.Truth be told, value actually does exist even with the results yesterday.
Take those same odds on a mundane Thursday at Churchill & that exacta is paying closer to $18 - $21 for $2. The tri would come up around $45 or so & the super might not make $100. Because of the huge amount of dead money it actually gives values to the exotics even when it is not the boxcar payouts we used to see before the last 4 years.
Where the value is not is on the win wager side when some of these longshots are actual underlays who should be closer to 100-1 but because of the dead money mainly from novice players, they are actually too short a price even at 30-1.
Disagree. Like last year, the tri payout was a ripoff. To begin with, everyone knows that there is a ton of "stupid money" in the Derby parimutuel pools every year which is why some of the past years payouts were silly great. Last 2 years it seems criminal. In a 20 horse field, those tri's should have paid double what they did. By comparison, Silver Charms Derby the #2,3*5 favorites were in the tri and that paid $200+ and that was a 13 horse field. THIRTEEN!!! Do the math on that one! I know Nyq was 2-1 fav on top but I will keep bringing up that it was a 20 horse field. If you have the time go back and review the KD card from last year. There was a race on that card where the favs finished 123 and the tri paid better than the Derby tri. Very strange. Your example of the mundane Thursday is fine ..but it is not 20 horse field... more like 8.