Damn i knew something was fishy at USC, lol...

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Conan said:
According to the Athlete Agent Act, a student-athlete would be presumed to have been adversely affected by the acts of the "athlete agent" if, because of those acts, he is suspended or disqualified, or suffers financial damages, or both.


If it is determined that either Bush or his family received extra benefits, the Pac-10 and/or NCAA could determine that he should have been ineligible last season.


In that case, the Bush camp would likely argue that it was because of actions of New Era. Because of violations of the act, they would contend, Bush's family would not be responsible to make repayments.


The act also states that an institution adversely affected may take civil action against the offending athlete agent, though it is not known if USC would consider such action.

Conan nice link,
If the griffin/bush camp use this act in order to stave off repayment, wouldn't the use of such act admit to the realization that there was some sort of quid pro quo? Wouldn't this be an admission of guilt in the eyes of the ncaa?

In the end having both sides sue each other could result in one BIG loser: USC.
 

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UoweDucks said:
Conan nice link,
If the griffin/bush camp use this act in order to stave off repayment, wouldn't the use of such act admit to the realization that there was some sort of quid pro quo? Wouldn't this be an admission of guilt in the eyes of the ncaa?

In the end having both sides sue each other could result in one BIG loser: USC.

Well according to NCAA rules, it could be considered a minor violation if Bush and Carroll weren't aware of any of this, but I also think a lot has to do with how much LaMar Griffin knew and what his intentions were. If he considered it no more than a loan from a wannabe agent who wasn't going to get his son's business no matter what, then that would have nothing to do with Bush or USC or possibly even any NCAA violation. There needs to be some proof that Griffin was actually negotiating a real deal with an agent for there to be a violation.

Griffin can say that there wasn't any deal involving his son and that it was only in the eyes of Michaels and Lake that Bush would sign with them (Reggie wasn't there) and maybe Griffin just didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings and lose his financial help. (It's been rumored but I don't know for sure that Reggie Bush knew Lake. That brings more personal relations into the situation.) You have to remember that the only one in the whole story that ASPIRED to be any sort of agent was Michaels and Lake. Neither of them had any credentials or experience in the business so that alone makes it a hard sell to convince anyone, LaMar Bush included, that there was a legitimate offer on the table for a contract between the parties.

Everyone was scamming everyone else. We still haven't heard from LaMar Bush in all of this. That I'd like to hear. Let's see what he has to say about this and we'll know what sort of quid pro quo there was. But even then, the simple act or intention on Michael's part in what he did, regardless of what Griffin has to say would implicate New Era Sports in an illegal act.

Extortion, blackmail... even the NFL warned teams on draft day that Reggie Bush might be involved in a blackmail scheme of some sort.
 

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This is just a little bit dated but it explains what I meant by NFL warnings...

NFL Security says Bush victim of threats by agent

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<!-- begin leftcol --> <!-- template inline --> The NFL Players Union and NFL Security has advised the top four teams in the NFL draft that it has been provided information indicating sports agent David Caravantes and marketing company New Era Sports used an attorney to try and force USC running back Reggie Bush to pay them $3.2 million after Bush decided not to sign with the group, sources told ESPN's Joe Schad on Thursday.
According to the sources, Caravantes threatened to reveal embarrassing personal information about the Bush family if he did not receive the money. Sources also say Caravantes tried to evict the family from a San Diego house they rented from his business associate Michael Michaels.
The NFLPA claims in a disciplinary complaint written Thursday that Brian Watkins, an attorney allegedly representing Caravantes and New Era Sports, engaged in unlawful conduct by demanding payment in at least three letters. Those letters were dated Feb. 13, March 7 and April 26, a source said. In another letter to the Bush family, dated March 2, Watkins identifies his clients as New Era Sports and Caravantes. New Era Sports marketing materials identify Caravantes as Chief Executive Officer, according to the source.
Gene Upshaw, executive director of the NFLPA, confirmed Friday that the investigation of Caravantes has begun.
"I can't comment on specifics of the investigation while it is going on, according to our organization's regulations," he said. "Until the process is completed, we can't comment, other than the investigation is ongoing.
"Things like this are about the integrity of the game and our sport, and we have to make sure it is dealt with sufficiently."
Caravantes told The Associated Press on Friday "I have not heard anything'' about the NFLPA investigation. He also said: "I have had no involvement with Reggie Bush. The truth will come out."
The league's security department contacted several teams about the situation. Houston Texans owner Bob McNair, whose team has the first overall selection in Saturday's draft and will take North Carolina State defensive end Mario Williams over Bush, said Thursday he was aware of the situation.
According to records found on the California Secretary of State's Web site, New Era Sports and Entertainment, LLC filed as a limited liability corporation with the state on Nov. 23, 2005. According to the records, the entity remains active and its "agent for service of process" was Phillip M. Smith Jr.
When reached by Yahoo! Sports to discuss the company, Smith ended the conversation by saying, "That's really not an issue that I want to deal with."
Caravantes said late Thursday night that Watkins does not work for him. Caravantes also said he had no knowledge of any threats made against the Bush family, including eviction from the home. Caravantes denied being employed by New Era Sports.
Calls to Watkins' office were not returned Thursday.
David Cornwell, attorney for the Bush family, would not comment on the NFLPA or NFL Security findings other than to say there was "comfort that two independent, third parties have reached the same conclusion we have."
NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said in a statement Friday, "Based on the information presented by Reggie Bush's attorney, our office has advised the attorney to consider referring these matters to law enforcement authorities."
The house rental is still the subject of an investigation by the NCAA and the Pac-10. Officials have contacted Bush's attorney and told him they will wait until after this weekend's NFL draft to conduct interviews on how payments were made on the house. Bush's family no longer lives there.
In an interview on ESPN on Monday, Bush did not get into specifics about the controversy but said, "when this is all said and done, everyone will see at the end of the day that we've done absolutely nothing wrong."
Also, a source close to Bush said NFL Security has contacted the top four teams in the NFL draft and told them Bush was the victim of threats.
Cornwell says that Bush had no knowledge of an agreement between his parents and Michaels, the man who owned the $750,000 home the Bush family lived in for the past year.
Bush added that his "parents leased a house like any other parent." Bush declined to say who paid the rent.
A source close to Bush told Schad that while the family had at first agreed to pay rent on the San Diego home, they quickly realized there was no way they could afford to. After falling behind on payments, the family will claim, however, that they were repeatedly told not to worry, that they would not be evicted.
Bush, the 2005 Heisman Trophy winner, chose to turn pro after his junior season with USC. He is expected to be the No. 1 pick in Saturday's NFL draft.
ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reported Thursday that talks between Bush's representatives and the Houston Texans, the team with the top draft pick, have stalled.
 

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From CollegeFootballResource

A decent non biased of USC's issues:

Handicapping the USC Scandals

Two weeks have now passed since allegations were published concerning former USC tailback Reggie Bush's housing situation. Other allegations about Bush and USC followed, as well as a sexual assault arrest of a prominent backup quarterback.
Let's quickly summarize the allegations and where I think they're headed.
1)Reggie Bush Scandal
Bush (er, his family?) is accused of living in a $750k home in San Diego, perhaps without having paid any kind of rent. Most of the accusations have come from the co-founders of the New Era sports marketing company also partnered by his father, LaMar Griffin. Bush and Co. have been quiet except to allege extortion by the New Era guys.
Smell Factor (on a 0-10, 10 being Watergate): 8/10
The Bush folks aren't helping themselves or USC with their relative silence. Based on what little we know, it appears his father, a sometime preacher and religious figure, conned a bunch of shady guys and ex-cons out of a lot of money and then left them hanging with a useless company. This is a juicy story that won't easily go away.
Cheat Factor: 1/10 USC; 4/10 Bush

So far nothing's been connected to USC. Unless further allegations arrive, USC is guilty of unknowingly playing a star athlete who may or may not have been ineligible. Bush, or at least his parents, may have enjoyed rent-free living at a nice home and had their debts paid off to boot. Based on future findings non NCAA sanctions may include USC vacating its 2004 BCS title, and Bush may lose his Heisman trophy. But we're a long way from that happening.

Sanction Factor: 5/10
I'm not well-versed enough with the NCAA sanction process to make a good guess here. It's my modest opinion that the NCAA makes up its rulings as it goes, lacking the consistent caseload volume of say, the nation's courts to have any kind of precedent-based system of judgments. This is bad for the NCAA and bad for its member institutions. It means a situation like this, with little precedent, is very much up to the whims of the NCAA investigators.
I will add that USC and the NCAA are not on the most friendly of terms right now. Angry words from the USC camp went public after the resolution of Mike Williams' eligibility situation a day before USC's 2004 opener against Virginia Tech. The NCAA may not be in a friendly or cooperative mood towards the Trojans. However, they might not be in a great hurry to punish their flagship college football institution, no matter the past disagreement.
NCAA bylaws clearly state that institutions are responsible (Ed.-ridiculously) for knowing anything and everything about benefits enjoyed by their athletes, athletes' friends and athlete families, and can be punished for any transgressions whether or not they are aware of problems. Therefore, USC is certainly not immune from a sanctioning process here, if the NCAA finds that Bush were ineligible.
2)Dwayne Jarrett Rent Situation
Star USC receiver Dwayne Jarrett has been living in an upscale apartment in downtown Los Angeles with teammate Matt Leinart. Both players used their NCAA stipends to pay a portion of the rent to Leinart's father, who then assumed the rest of the rent payment for the players.
Smell Factor: 4/10
The smell is more because it's hard to imagine USC not knowing about this. It sounds like they knew but failed to investigate further whether any NCAA violations occurred. I'm not all that sympathetic towards USC on this one, but this does highlight some flaws in the NCAA amateurism process. It basically asks college athletes to take a vow of poverty in order to stay eligible. Thing is, living in Los Angeles isn't cheap and Leinart wanted a teammate's company as he got away from autograph hounds and into a nice downtown apartment. Hard to blame the kid.

Cheat Factor: 3/10
Once again USC's nose is clean here-no boosters, no athletic department money. Leinart and Jarrett didn't play the NCAA's poverty game and their "benefit" was getting away from campus and having a family member of one of the roommates take care of a part of the rent. That's how many college students get by, needing an extra few dollars from family and friends. Problem is it's frowned upon by the reptilian rulemakers in Indianapolis.
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The NCAA's amateur policies: ugly, cold-blooded, and lethal. Ask Jeremy Bloom
Sanction Factor: 5/10
This looks like some kind of a violation, albeit a minor one. I'm assuming at worst, Jarrett has to repay a share of his rent and maybe miss a game or two. That said, USC finally investigated this and is playing it off as a minor matter.
3)Mark Sanchez Sexual Assault Investigation
Mark Sanchez is USC's highly regarded backup quarterback. He was arrested April 27 by the LAPD on suspicion of sexual assault, and later released on $200,000 bail. He has yet to be charged, but has a court date set for May. 17.
Smell Factor: Uknown
Sexual assault encompasses a lot of acts---none of which are tolerable but certainly not all are considered forms of rape and are often benign in comparison (for example, a single improper, uninvited touch can be cause for sexual assault charges). Because the LAPD has been so vague and charges have yet to be filed, this story is still very much unknown. Sanchez' arrest normally should raise serious red flags, but it's my understanding that current LAPD policy is to immediately arrest anyone accused of sexual assault, site unseen if an accusation is made.
Cheat Factor: 0/10
Duh.
Sanction Factor: 0/10 NCAA; 4/10 District Attorney

The NCAA doesn't have any say on this case, but the Los Angeles District Attorney's office certainly does. I believe the delay in specific allegations points to a potentially weak case here. USC beat writer/persistent critic Scott Wolf's doesn't think much of the allegations either, based on items published on his blog. As HP has noted, sexual assault and rape allegations rarely find much success against athletes, or in the courts in general.
Even if he survives the sexual assault allegations, Sanchez is not in the clear. Security cameras place him in an off-campus watering hole, underage, having used a fake ID. USC's Student Affairs office will have some oversight into future punishments, and he's been temporarily suspended from school (although he was allowed to take his final exams).
It is my assumption that USC coach Pete Carroll will make an example out of Sanchez, and include some form of game suspensions and "doghouse" benching likely to affect much of his 2006 season. The same thing happened to USC tailback Hershel Dennis, who in 2004 violated a team curfew rule and was investigated and later cleared in another sexual assault case at USC. He would record just 28 carries that year, after carrying the ball 137 times in 2003. In other words I think Sanchez's 2006 season is effectively over barring a substantial injury to de facto starter John David Booty.
 

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sharp post wc, thats what it comes down to do they want to take down the usc's and ohio st... no way they make to much :money8::money8::money8::money8: for them
 

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We still don't know what LaMar Griffin has to say. I think a lot of this depends on his story because the only information so far has come from the blackmailers. What was the deal? A perk or a loan? Terms?

That California law would hang New Era Sports out to dry in the Mojave Desert with no recourse whatsoever if they tied any kind of sports agency deal in with Bush. I think either way they are up shitz creek.

But a lot of the scandalous part has to do with LaMar Griffin's intentions when he accepted their money, rent, what have you. If he was out to scam the scammers (which is what it appears to be) then how can the NCAA say that such scamming is the same in any way as receiveing a real benefit through a legitimate agent? Now those guys want thier money back and say he owes. Where's the benefit in that?

It just don't add up and I'll bet you the NCAA will come to that conclusion so the next few ABC contracts, Fiesta Bowls and Rose Bowls make them some money. USC games must have been aired at least 6 or 7 weekends last season. I doubt they will be able to replace them and keep their market share in the west up to where it's been. That's some big $$$.
 

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