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While both games should win, I would be careful with laying -260 chalk in baseball. The risk far outweighs the reward. You have to hit 75% of your plays just to break even.

Obviously, anytime a team is favored at -260, they should win the game. But to make a profit laying this chalk is very difficult as has been shown to anyone who has been betting MLB heavy favorites all year.

Good luck with the plays...I hope they cash. I just wouldn't make a habit of playing heavy favorites as every year there are a few upsets.
 

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Couple of live dogs in case some of you want to play, but hate laying chalk.

Favorites are typically the way to go in college, but these 2 dogs have a solid chance.

3*NC State +128
2*Notre Dame +207
 

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Clip Joint said:
While both games should win, I would be careful with laying -260 chalk in baseball. The risk far outweighs the reward. You have to hit 75% of your plays just to break even.

Obviously, anytime a team is favored at -260, they should win the game. But to make a profit laying this chalk is very difficult as has been shown to anyone who has been betting MLB heavy favorites all year.

Good luck with the plays...I hope they cash. I just wouldn't make a habit of playing heavy favorites as every year there are a few upsets.

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Good points. But this isn't MLB. College baseball you have to play favorites. These games have seriously almost a 1% chance for an upset.
This isnt like college basketball either. Those small schools are dangerous in college basketball. The small schools in college baseball arent as dangerous.

Even like you like to say...

how many times would this game win, and then look at the line.

LSU beats NW State today 99 times out of 100.
CSF beats Missouri today 99 times out of 100.

Doesnt that mean the line should be -999, or -9999? Either way, it's crazy value on -260. College isnt like MLB. MLB and professional sports have evenly matched teams for the most part. All guys have talent that is good enough for the majors, so really any team can win on any given day. College baseball is not the same. There are major talent disparities, mystiques, winning traditions and home field advantages.
I'm seriously not worried about 60 or 70%, these plays will hit 95% at least.
 

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Boxslayer32 said:
Winky -

LSU is NOT a garbage team. I'm curious how garbage teams get to host their own regionals???? This is by far the game that stands out the most on this card, hands down. They were in the running for the SEC title this year with Tennessee and Florida down to the final weekend. They are on a whole nother level than NW State. Sure, they aren't playing typical powerhouse LSU baseball and crushing everyone they play, but they still have won big games when they had to. They took 2 out of 3 from regional host Tennesee, and they took 2 out of 3 from regional host Ole Miss.

They are playing at home at Alex Box stadium where they typically lead the country every year in attendace with 7,000+ per game. Their backs are against the wall, they have about 6 National Titles under thier belt as a program, and they are in an elimination game against Northwestern State.

Like I said college baseball is a broken record. LSU will win this and get back into champsionship position against Rice. They have the tradition post season experience, home field advanatage, huge huge talent edge, etc.

This game is a no brainer. LSU wins this game 99 out of 100 times. Pinnacle has them at -300. I got them at betonsports.com for -260.

I guess we now know where you played your college baseball.
 

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Mestapey is starting against NORTHWESTERN today. This is a very smart move by LSU. This gives the Tigers a fighting chance tonight against Rice. Good luck everyone!!! I hope you all cash big today.
 

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Did anyone catch the line on the Texas game earlier. I would have played anything under -400. Same situation as this LSU and CSF game.
 

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I guess we now know where you played your college baseball.

Exactly. But this isnt just my opinion, this is a widely regarded opinion across college baseball in terms of the SEC.

There is only one gimme series in the SEC (Kentucky), every other team has a chance to sweep any other team on any given weekend. No other conference in the country can say that. And that's just fact. The SEC doesnt have a powerhouse team this year, but it has never been stronger from top to bottom.
 

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Mestapey is starting against NORTHWESTERN today. This is a very smart move by LSU. This gives the Tigers a fighting chance tonight against Rice. Good luck everyone!!! I hope you all cash big today.

Thanks Chop!
 

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Boxslayer32 said:
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10****************Cal State Fullerton -263

Doesn't get any easier than this one either. If you like to lay -260 on the Yankees, you sure as hell might want to check this game out. Cal State won the National Title last year, they are the favorite to win it this year, they are at home, and they lost to a TOUGH Arizona team that I thought would win yesterday but I couldn't pull the trigger just because they were playing CSF. Thats how good this team is, if Arizona was playing anybody else I would have bet them. Cal State does not lose this game to Missouri today, period.

i was at the fullerton/zona game last night. fullerton had 17 LOB in 9 innings and should have easily won the game - but lost. keep in mind last year fullerton lost this same exact game then blew out ASU and Pepperidge Farm 2 times and never looked back.

will fullerton win this game? YES - but at this price - there are better plays on the board (Long Beach) and this one is one i will watch w/o any $$ on it
 

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LEYKIS101 said:
DB says Texas opened at -326, closed around -320/-350

Thanks for the info Leykis. Thats another powerhouse at home getting upset first game of the regional, and then playing a team that is far inferior.
 

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Hey Boxslayer- where did you play in the summers? I used to umpire the CICL in Illinois. There were always quite a few SEC kids that came up here to play.
 

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winkyduck said:
i was at the fullerton/zona game last night. fullerton had 17 LOB in 9 innings and should have easily won the game - but lost. keep in mind last year fullerton lost this same exact game then blew out ASU and Pepperidge Farm 2 times and never looked back.

will fullerton win this game? YES - but at this price - there are better plays on the board (Long Beach) and this one is one i will watch w/o any $$ on it

See I agree with what you are saying, but my "style" I guess you can call it differs.

In the Fullerton game, it is practically guaranteed money. In the Long Beach game it isn't.

I'd rather pay the extra -80 in juice and practically guarantee myself a profit with a near-lock, then give the 80 in value and bite my nails. Pepperdine has more than a chance of winning against Long Beach. Will they? Most likely not, I agree with your pick, but Pepperdine isn't some no-name team in college baseball like a Northwestern State who has never accomplished anything.

I think for the most part you would agree that if CSF played this situation 100 times they'd win 99.

Whereas if Long Beach played in this situation vs. Pepperdine 100 times, they'd go 75-25.

Either way around, both plays have tremendous value, but I prefer the near-lock whereas you prefer not to lay as much juice. Just different personalities and betting styles.

I didnt make a wager on LongBeach, so I'll be rooting you won winky!

By the way, I'm aware how many CSF left on base last night, but that was just the type of team I warned about with Lopez. He is my former coach and I knew that he'd have his team ready to play. They thrive in those situations. His pitchers are mentally tough and they know how to get out of jams. Thats all he stresses. Andy Lopez is the reason Arizona won. But I have too much respect for CSF to bet against them.
 

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Agree Box this is what makes College Baseball Head to Head wagering so amazing. I would not play a -260 favorite in MLB. College Baseball is a completely different entity for everything you listed and more.

I have not been able to come up with a good analogy. This isn't even the New England Patriots -260 at home against the Cleveland Browns. Its much worse than that.

I cannot even look at MLB when all these ridiculous College Baseball lines out there. Remember most of these 3 and 4 seeded teams have 1 great pitcher who already pitched. They are 3 and 4 seeded teams because they lack serious depth. They are on the road and now playing their 3rd game against consistently top rated teams. This is men against boys.
 

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This Cal State Fullerton game is men vs boys. Cal State will score 10+ runs and Missouri will score 5 or under. I love this game. Probably analogous to the New York Yankees playing the University of Miami in a one game match.
 

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Boxslayer32 said:
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Good points. But this isn't MLB. College baseball you have to play favorites. These games have seriously almost a 1% chance for an upset.
This isnt like college basketball either. Those small schools are dangerous in college basketball. The small schools in college baseball arent as dangerous.

Even like you like to say...

how many times would this game win, and then look at the line.

LSU beats NW State today 99 times out of 100.
CSF beats Missouri today 99 times out of 100.

Doesnt that mean the line should be -999, or -9999? Either way, it's crazy value on -260. College isnt like MLB. MLB and professional sports have evenly matched teams for the most part. All guys have talent that is good enough for the majors, so really any team can win on any given day. College baseball is not the same. There are major talent disparities, mystiques, winning traditions and home field advantages.
I'm seriously not worried about 60 or 70%, these plays will hit 95% at least.

I agree with most of what you said, but the odds of winning are highly inflated. If a team like LSU could beat NW State 99 out of 100, why have they lost 20 games on the season? It is because any team can lose on any given day in baseball, regardless of the level. These are all quality teams now in the World Series, and LSU lost 20 games during the regular season. While they are the superior team today (hence the -260 and up odds), 95% is very unrealistic. 95-5 if they played 100 games? They are 39-20 in a season that doesn't include all World Series caliber opponents.

NW State is one of the weaker teams in the field and there is probably more value here than any other heavy favorite. They were 21-2 at home during the regular season and only 19-15 away from home. But LSU's offense is down this year and NW State lives on great defense and not giving opponents extra opportunities. Blake Jones could be the X Factor that keeps them in the game.

Odds makers do a great job of getting the public to play heavy favorites. While there may be value in eating heavy chalk, it doesn't happen very often.

I think they win today as well, but there are no games/matchups in the College World Series where a team would win 95% of the time...and at -260, 80% or higher will be the only way to make any real money on these heavy favorites.
 

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LSU lost that many games because they play in the SEC. They also play weaker teams in midweek games but this is usually when the weaker team throws their #1 and LSU throws their #4. 3 games have been played so far and these #3 and #4 seeds have used their top pitchers. They are now depleted as far as depth and talent go. The mid to late innings you can expect teams like LSU and Cal State to pour it on. There is great value here. These lines should be around -1000.

I really like the Cal State game but can see why Box loves the LSU game. I do think there is tremendous value in these games.
 

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Clip Joint said:
I agree with most of what you said, but the odds of winning are highly inflated. If a team like LSU could beat NW State 99 out of 100, why have they lost 20 games on the season? It is because any team can lose on any given day in baseball, regardless of the level. These are all quality teams now in the World Series, and LSU lost 20 games during the regular season. While they are the superior team today (hence the -260 and up odds), 95% is very unrealistic. 95-5 if they played 100 games? They are 39-20 in a season that doesn't include all World Series caliber opponents.

NW State is one of the weaker teams in the field and there is probably more value here than any other heavy favorite. They were 21-2 at home during the regular season and only 19-15 away from home. But LSU's offense is down this year and NW State lives on great defense and not giving opponents extra opportunities. Blake Jones could be the X Factor that keeps them in the game.

Odds makers do a great job of getting the public to play heavy favorites. While there may be value in eating heavy chalk, it doesn't happen very often.

I think they win today as well, but there are no games/matchups in the College World Series where a team would win 95% of the time...and at -260, 80% or higher will be the only way to make any real money on these heavy favorites.

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You know what you're talking about for capping.
But in terms of college baseball, you really are out of your element I'm thinking. Not an attack, maybe you just didnt think it through or you arent familiar with the sport? Let me explain.

LSU has lost 20 games this year because they play in the SEC. Every team is practically even with the exception of Kentucky. That accounts for most of their losses, but they arent playing a big name school today. They are playing an inferior opponent. Any time they lost to a lesser opponent during the season, which was probably 3 times or less, they 99% sure threw some freshman mid-week starter who's #5 in their rotation vs. the lesser opponents ace, in a meaningless mid-week game that was all-world for the lesser opponent, but didnt mean crap to LSU. LSU plays lesser opponents during the mid-week and they save their rotation for the weekend SEC play.

This is now the postseason, and LSU is throwing their #3 weekend starter vs. some small schools #3 starter. Most of these small schools make a living off of 1 recruit they got, and they ride him till the wheels fall off. They pitch their one ace pitcher against LSU while LSU throws some freshman they are trying to develop. That isnt the case here. Plus its the postseason, at LSU and LS is one of the most prolific postseason teams in NCAA history. Would I lay this chalk in a regular season game? Hell no. Actually in a winkyduck thread earlier this year he picked Cal State Fullerton or something in a mid-week game televised on ESPN against a smaller school and I told him to be careful because mid-week schools throw their ace vs the big schools #5. CSF made a run at the end and beat SD State in that game in extra innings or a very close game.

My point being, the postseason is entirely different than regular season play. You can't just look on the internet at stats from teams websites and make an analysis of a game or the sport.

Like I said, in terms of capping you are dead on as you always are. But in terms of college baseball, it's a whole different animal.

So to make a long story short, in THIS SITUATION LSU wins this game 99 times out of 100.

I hope this post didnt come off the wrong way. I've learned a few things from you, so dont think Im talking down to you. I just know college baseball, whereas I'm learning everything else.
 

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