Card Counting in blackjack

[ECS]

well im thinking if I were to go 5-30 nobody would mind, of course id save the highest bets for if the count was very high in my favor.

I realize all situations are different, but what would you say is a good spot where I had better chill if starting at 5? 50? higher/lower?

I think you could play off a big bet depending on the situation, ie. if the count was real high and you put a big bet out, if you win you let it ride in the excitement! or if you lose maybe you put a bigger one out (of course if the count is still high) to try to "win it back"....

 

[ECS]

Also, good or bad idea to have a stratagy card sitting by your chips, your still allowed to do that right?

 

[WVU]

Also, good or bad idea to have a stratagy card sitting by your chips, your still allowed to do that right?

you are allowed to but they are on to that as cover. Where are you going to find $5 games? Downtown will not care if you go 5-50

 

[ECS]

you are allowed to but they are on to that as cover. Where are you going to find $5 games? Downtown will not care if you go 5-50

well local casinos have 5 dollar bj on non peak times. I do know their are a few spots around vegas that offer 5 dollar BJ non peak, the little places on the strip such as slots of fun/the irish place by flamingo/IP, umm couple others.

I think im still gonna do the stratagy sheet, youd be suprised at how well I can look dumb :missingte

 

[ECS]

BTW, Wvu, you care if I get your email addy?

 

[Dawoofdaddy]

When did they deal every card, the 1950's ? :missingte

More casinos did than didnt before they stumbled upon the notion that mathematics mattered more than luck and whims.

And Im pretty sure dealing the entire single deck games went on at some places well past the 1950s.

My personal opinion...any person that can master card counting, could most likely make alot more money, in alot less time, mastering another mathematically/logically based career.

Casinos are always looking for ways to reduce card counters' edge.

:aktion033

 

[WVU]

BTW, Wvu, you care if I get your email addy?

check my profile

 

[ElJefe]

But since card counting only gives you slight advantage, say the actual payout is now 100.1%, you have to bet $10000 overall to make $10. If you play 5 to 25, it takes longer than an hour to bet $10000 and make 10 bucks.

That's why this is not worth doing for most people. You have to either play lots of hours or play for bigger stakes to really make it worth doing. Most people also do not have the bankroll to last thru losing streaks.

 

[mr21]

Does card counting work at all anymore? I thought they eliminated the advantage when they stopped using full decks.

Don't you mean penetration?

 

[ElJefe]

Don't you mean penetration?

Penetration is a big factor. It varies by casino and even by dealer withing a casino. 6 and 8 deck games need to have at least 75% penetration. Double deck with 55-60% is fine.

Some of the 6 and 8 deck games out there will only be 65% penetration and it is pretty impossible to do well with counting there.

 

[ECS]

I know this sounds dumb, but is their an easy way to tell where the penetration is? I was looking hard and felt it was around 75% when we were playin.

Another quick question, if you were too add in that the house wins all ties, any 1 wanna guess the percent that adds to the house?

 

[ElJefe]

I know this sounds dumb, but is their an easy way to tell where the penetration is? I was looking hard and felt it was around 75% when we were playin.

Another quick question, if you were too add in that the house wins all ties, any 1 wanna guess the percent that adds to the house?

You can tell by the cut card and try to estimate the number of decks cut off. You can also estimate by the discard rack and seeing how many decks worth of cards are being dealt out. And if you count, you will have to estimate discards anyway since the number of decks left factors in to how rich or poor the count is at the time.

House winning all ties would give them an obscene edge against the player. The only time I recall playing with that rule was some casino event that a fraternity had for charity. They had the worst rules. Main problem with the rule is you might as well subtract 1 from your hand total at all times. So if you have a hard 17, it's really as good as a 16. A 20 is as good as a 19 - you get the idea. No way to win money there.