Capping MLB 2007 #101a Ov/Un plus Las Vegas Q&A

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per mbb yesterday prince +300 HR. likes his type of swing in SFO. decent humidity 66% no wind to speak of so that wont help, but he should get the ball elevated
 

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Maybe someone else saw this on sportscenter or bb 2nite. I meant to write the # down, but....anyway I want to say the stat was there was a difference of 330? in home runs hit last year pre-all star break than this year.
Not very helpful, I know, but did someone else see this and note the stat?


sin, remember that this is the 1st year for so called "controlled conditions" for the baseballs. although the word is some are controlling more than other depending on who there playing
 

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cant believe they are going to have eddings HP, guess they really want to see and under again this year
 

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Pops, couple of questions. First, I know I need to do data validation, but I am not sure what week I had. Would you either post or shoot me an email. Sorry to be a pain in the A about it.

Also, you mentioned yesterday (post #8702) that you liked DG, DH, DO and DQ. Correct me, but aren't DH and DO the same number but just the scoring avg +/- the OL? Today then you moved away from the overall scoring avg and the L15 scoring avg to the D/N scoring avg:
"i believe there's a close relationship to holly, avg runs scored d/n and OL plus line moves. yes it would be great to come up with a 20 rule like cbb, but the sport is not setup that way. one small even can turn the difference in a game the other way. so the key is to try to be on the sides of trends and patterns etc"

I hope you follow me, but I just want to make sure I am seeing the same numbers. I have been using a combo of those scoring avgs along with the stadium d/n avg. Thanks for the help.
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Pops, couple of questions. First, I know I need to do data validation, but I am not sure what week I had. Would you either post or shoot me an email. Sorry to be a pain in the A about it.

Also, you mentioned yesterday (post #8702) that you liked DG, DH, DO and DQ. Correct me, but aren't DH and DO the same number but just the scoring avg +/- the OL? Today then you moved away from the overall scoring avg and the L15 scoring avg to the D/N scoring avg:
"i believe there's a close relationship to holly, avg runs scored d/n and OL plus line moves. yes it would be great to come up with a 20 rule like cbb, but the sport is not setup that way. one small even can turn the difference in a game the other way. so the key is to try to be on the sides of trends and patterns etc"

I hope you follow me, but I just want to make sure I am seeing the same numbers. I have been using a combo of those scoring avgs along with the stadium d/n avg. Thanks for the help.
Ham

guess it would be which tab your looking at. the only data i can pivot is the al & nl combined (the Holly WIP) is a work in progress of trying to pivot the data i think has a decent relation to how the opening line is developed. but when i referenced those col i was talking about the wa nps where DH (Score Avg) which is the following calc (CR +CU_CX+DA)/4

that calc appears to be very close to the OL with some minor adjustment based on the starting pitchers era's

i believe i need to add a couple of col's into the AL & NL Combined to pick up the era's as well as the OL and LM, but i'm getting close, but no cigar yet



ham, week #10, the data is in the unaudited directory in the ftp
 

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cant believe they are going to have eddings HP, guess they really want to see and under again this year


Pops who selects the ump and do they really consider Eddings an all star......or is he just the first to sign up type of deal.
 

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Pops, thanks for the info above. I thought it was probably just a WIP which would explain the back and forth between the numbers. I will be out of pocket for the rest of the week so I'll try to get the data reviewed tonight, but if not, then on Fri.
Finally, this is from MLB.com on the Umps for the AS Game:

Bruce Froemming, who has the most consecutive years of service by an active Major League Umpire in baseball history, will work behind the plate and serve as the Crew Chief at the 78th All-Star Game, to be played on Tuesday, July 10th at AT&T Park in San Francisco.
Froemming, who is in his 37th year of Major League service, will work his third Midsummer Classic, having also been a part of the All-Star Game crews in 1975 and 1986. He has been a part of eight Division Series, 10 League Championship Series and five World Series. Froemming will be joined by 18th year Major League Umpire Charlie Reliford, a regular season Crew Chief who will be at first base, along with Mike Winters (second base), Kerwin Danley (third base), Ted Barrett (left field) and Bill Miller (right field). This is the second All-Star Game for Reliford and Winters and the first for Danley, Barrett and Miller.
 

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Tuesday July 10th

E3 opens today. Hope we see something new

bill: i was just joking on eddings at HP, ham posted the correct data

coffee and back to work on holly
 

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Thats funny pops.......I know he gets this threads vote for all star of the year.

for those that dont believe this ump shit, have never paid atttention to him behind HP. Yes an ump is a key factor in most games

i'm going to bf, been running tables and numbers for a couple of hours and everthing is coming up 50/50 just like they want them two

back in less than two with a fresh look

q&a if you got em. now the time to learn how to use the spreadsheet data etc
 
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Pops..didn't know you were interested in video games..what system do you have? I have a PS3 but thinking about getting an Xbox360.

Should see some cool new games at E3 this year.. G4 should have it covered throughout the event.
 

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Pops..didn't know you were interested in video games..what system do you have? I have a PS3 but thinking about getting an Xbox360.

Should see some cool new games at E3 this year.. G4 should have it covered throughout the event.

i have (2) mod original xboxes, also two 360's, 1 white and 1 black elite, and 1 ps3. i like the ps3 but shit for games out there, but the controller is nice and light. the new elite is so much noiser than the original 360 but overall many more decent games on the 360 vs ps3. also have a wi but that in the main house for the grand kinds when they come over, everyone has the most fun with that one, although i almost never play it

i'm a 1 person shooter guy, and only way to play a good game is laying on your back
 

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i like it. just uploaded july 11th rev c. the holly wip (although holly number is not included) pretty well reinforces my opinion on the line moves on ov/un. but this shows it in relation to the scoring avg (which is very close to what the OL comes out as)

i have a legend in that pivot, but basically the M is where the scoring avg is less than the opening line. and P is where it more than the opening line

kind of fines tunes the Line Move numbers

let me know your thoughts
 

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Pops its funny how many more .5 downward line movements there have been than .5 upward movement. And the other thing I notice is that when a National league team has a scoring avg less than the line and the line moves down those are the best to fade..........this is something I have been working on.....to try and filter out the best of those plays.........so far I think I've got it to about 60% but I think I can do better.
 

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Pops its funny how many more .5 downward line movements there have been than .5 upward movement. And the other thing I notice is that when a National league team has a scoring avg less than the line and the line moves down those are the best to fade..........this is something I have been working on.....to try and filter out the best of those plays.........so far I think I've got it to about 60% but I think I can do better.

the one thing 4 sure is you want to stay off of any game w/o any line movement 50/50 regardless of plus or minus, and is the same way for most of the other pivot tables as well. so any you play in that area are straight coil flips
 

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the one thing 4 sure is you want to stay off of any game w/o any line movement 50/50 regardless of plus or minus, and is the same way for most of the other pivot tables as well. so any you play in that area are straight coil flips

Pops, in the American league when line doesnt move there is a nice trend to the under, the nicest trend on that pivot.
 
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