Capping MLB 2007 #101a Ov/Un plus Las Vegas Q&A

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Pops,
question for you.
under the whips and salary tab in column B it says combined pitcher whip and as a example the first umpire on the list is barksdale and the pitcher whips combined next to his name show 8, 9, 10, 12. I could be wrong, but i dont believe that you can get whip numbers that high, even combining 2 pitchers. Was column B supposed to be salary?
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those are like a b c d e f g, ranges assigned with 1 being the best and 12 the worst. double click on the and of the numbers in col c or d and you will see the actual numbers for each

i see they finally started the clev game, just caught the top of the third where they left the 7th run on 3rd. i hate it when that happens
 

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cd thanks for the stats, this stuff is helpful. Not sure where you are getting them from but I was wondering if you could get the % of 1 run games so far


I will look for it, roughly every year its around 25-30 percent.
 

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I will look for it, roughly every year its around 25-30 percent.

it's easy to create a pivot table that will show that info, take a shot at creating one vs doing it manually

i'm out of here guys, back by 2pm or so
 

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those are like a b c d e f g, ranges assigned with 1 being the best and 12 the worst. double click on the and of the numbers in col c or d and you will see the actual numbers for each

i see they finally started the clev game, just caught the top of the third where they left the 7th run on 3rd. i hate it when that happens

Thanks Pops, i didnt think the whips combined could be that high.

6 runs already
 

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Pops - The pokers don't bet until the lineups are announced. However, I don't know who it was betting that Yankee UNDER. I was going to bet OVER as soon as it came out but the electric company is going to rolling blackouts cause of so-called problems with the electricity or the power generators or some shit like that; I tried to read it but it was in Spanish so I only got bits and pieces hahaa...

In all seriousness, I am astonished that Spiro is using 9.5 under -120... Hell, Pinny has got it 9 over -133 on the buy. Considering going that route as that half-run is prolly worth about 28 cents... but for the Yankees, I'd say considerably less, as games just don't fall '9' as often in the Bronx.

I am on Dodger U (ump Cousins calling 64 percent strikes so far, first two got to 8 and 10, and Penny is notorious for stopping the bleeding when Dodgers go on a skid, so he'll prolly be lights-out tonight)...

Philly O (Rookie pitcher, day game, Hamels was outstanding last time, expect a small let-down today)

Zona O (If those clowns got to 17 with "E" behind the plate, what will they do with Kellogg and his 59.8 percent strike-to-ball ratio - yes I know I am going against UNDER trends there)...

Oakland U (Wolf 64.8 percent strikes, made the worst call I ever saw at first to end the game on the 4-6-3 DP last night, Chavez was safe by a full step. He makes his reservations 2 hours after the first pitch when behind the plate).

Yankee O.

Anaheim O.

Leaning Baltimore U but not sure about it yet. Barrett 64.3 percent strikes and two decent arms but Beckett not the same pitcher on the road that he is at Fenway.

GLTA...
 

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Factors affecting how far a baseball goes

I thought this might help in your study, especially humidity - notice they say high humidity keeps the ball in the park:

Factors effecting distance added to a 400 foot fly ball to center field:
Condition- Distance added

1000 feet of altitude +7 Feet
10 degrees of air temp +4 Feet
10 degrees of ball temp +4 Feet
1 inch drop in Barometer +6 Feet
1 mph following wind +3 Feet
Ball at 100 % Humidity -30 Feet
Pitch, +5 mph +3.5 Feet
Hit along foul line +11 Feet
Aluminum Bat +30 Feet


from http://www.bostonbaseball.com/whitesox/baseball_extras/physics.html


With spring in the air and the sounds of hickory (or aluminum) hitting horsehide, let's talk about weather and baseball this week.

Q. How does the humidity on a foggy evening affect a batted or thrown baseball?

A. The air is approximately 21 percent oxygen, 78 percent nitrogen and some very small amounts of other gases. Now if we look at the weight of the molecules (i.e., molecular weight) of dry air we see it has a value of 29. But gaseous water vapor has a molecular weight of only 18. Because the air around us is a mixture of dry air and water vapor, its actual molecular weight falls somewhere between 18 and 29, with it being less on humid days. When the air becomes more humid, its density lessens, so it creates less drag or friction, which would slow a baseball or allow it to curve.

However, the dynamics aren't quite that simple because high humidity can cause a baseball to gain a small amount of water, which makes it slightly heavier. The bottom line is that the effect of humidity, all other things being equal, is negligible.

Q. Well, if humidity has little effect, how about temperature and barometric pressure?

A. Temperature and pressure have a more noticeable effect. Air becomes less dense as it warms, so there will less wind resistance to a moving ball. And a decrease in barometric pressure also makes the air less dense. A home run ball would
go as much as 20 feet farther on a 95-degree day with a barometric pressure of 29.50 inches of mercury than it would
on a 45-degree day with a pressure of 30.50 inches.

Q. Would a batted ball travel farther in the mountains, where the barometric pressure is lower?

A. Absolutely. Pressure is probably the single biggest atmospheric effect on a baseball. Atmospheric pressure, and the density of the air, decreases with altitude and, consequently, so does the drag on the ball. The atmospheric pressure at Turner Field in Atlanta -- at 1,000 feet elevation, it's the second-highest ballpark in the major leagues -- is about 4 percent less than sea level
pressure. Coors Field in Denver's thin, mile-high air has only 83 percent of sea level air pressure. Consequently, if the altitude
and humidity are taken into account, a 400-foot home run at sea level would go about 408 feet in Atlanta and 440 feet in
Denver! And if the game were played in a vacuum with no air resistance, that 400-foot ``tater'' would go about 750 feet.

Q. Do these things affect the pitcher?

A. Yes, but not quite as dramatically. Again, it's a matter of air density and how much friction the ball encounters. When the air is less dense, a pitcher's fastball would be slightly faster but his curveball wouldn't bite into the air as much and would be less effective.

Q. Well, how does the wind affect the ball?

A. As you would expect, it depends on whether the ball is traveling with or against the wind. A fastball thrown at 90 mph into a 10 mph wind would have a ground speed of about 89.3 mph; if it's thrown downwind, it would be about 90.7 mph. However, a 10 mph crosswind will blow a fastball off its path by about three inches, or the diameter of the ball. This may not seem like much, but even this small deflection can mean the difference between a ball and a strike, or a strike and a home run. A crosswind has an even greater effect on slower pitches -- curveballs and knuckleballs. Remember, a gust of wind blew pitcher Stu Miller off the
mound during the 1961 All-Star game at Candlestick Park.

Q. How different is the weather at Pacific Bell Park than at 3Com (Candlestick) Park?

A. For a number of reasons, the weather should be more benign at Pac Bell than at the 'Stick. Although air temperatures are much the same, wind speed and thus wind chill are less at the new ballpark. Candlestick's wind problems were twofold. First, the wind
funneled over the coastal hills from Daly City and down Visitacion Valley, where it picked up speed. This was further exacerbated by the 400-foot-high Bay View Hill directly behind the ballpark. Much like a rock in the middle of a river creates rapids and rough water downstream, the hill makes the wind very gusty and changeable. The terrain upwind from Pac Bell is less rough and not as channeled, so the wind generally will not only be slower but also less gusty. And the third-base stands at the new ballpark were oriented to partially block the wind.

Q. Are games rained out very often in the Bay Area?

A. Other than the Southern California stadiums, the Bay Area probably has the fewest rainouts of any outdoor baseball park. In the 42-plus seasons the Giants have played in San Francisco, there have been only 29 rainouts, of which only five have been in June, July and August. And from April 10, 1978, through Oct. 2, 1981, the Giants played 454 home games without a weather cancellation. The Oakland A's record is just as enviable with only 19 rainouts in the 32-plus seasons the team has been at the Coliseum.

Q. Where can I find out more about baseball and the weather?

A. An excellent book on the topic is ``The Physics of Baseball,'' by Robert K. Adair (Harper & Row, 1990). The San Francisco Exploratorium has an excellent interactive Web site devoted to the science of baseball (www.exploratorium.edu/baseball/).
 

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Gotta love the way we got the last three runs in Cleveland. Bases jacked...

Infield hit. Walk. Walk.

8-3 Tribe. Rain, rain, stay away...
 

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Mariners/A's

Here's todays results sheet for Mariners/A's. Data's enterred correctly this time, so the trial by fire continues.
 
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Bullet, I apologize for this. My son thinks things of nature are funny. He also got into my e-mails and replyed to a message from my boss, more or less told him to fuck off. I hope I calm down before he gets home from school.

Good luck with that. I was really hoping you didn't have a problem with me.

He's older than most of the posters on this forum.
 

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Good luck with that. I was really hoping you didn't have a problem with me.

He's older than most of the posters on this forum.

Thanks for understanding. How was the golf game? Have you ever played Badlands?
 

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Thanks for understanding. How was the golf game? Have you ever played Badlands?

Golf was not good today but we played 18 holes in 3 hours. Played with a couple of older guys I know that keep asking me to join them.

Shot 74 with 2 obs, a water ball, and two 3 putts on a very easy public track. Thank god I had 5 birdies.

Were is Badlands? Vegas? I haven't played it.
 

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Golf was not good today but we played 18 holes in 3 hours. Played with a couple of older guys I know that keep asking me to join them.

Shot 74 with 2 obs, a water ball, and two 3 putts on a very easy public track. Thank god I had 5 birdies.

Were is Badlands? Vegas? I haven't played it.

Yea, its in Vegas, very tuff.
74 with 2 obs, good score.
 

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clev ov, mo pie please

let me get my fat ass in gear and see what shaking

i see hill and hamels pitching a very good game
 

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cd thanks for the stats, this stuff is helpful. Not sure where you are getting them from but I was wondering if you could get the % of 1 run games so far


Pats,
heres the stats you wanted

1-RUN games
86 of 305 games 27.8%

Looks like i was pretty close to the 25-30 percent i predicted. usually like this every year.
 

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Pats,
heres the stats you wanted

1-RUN games
86 of 305 games 27.8%

Looks like i was pretty close to the 25-30 percent i predicted. usually like this every year.

this is why is say the RL -1- is the worse bet in baseball, expecially for the home team, one less bat and walk off HR etc
 

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fuck, now we have to struggle to get 1 more run in the TB game, i just cant take this pressure anymore, key batters out of the TB line up, i hate it when that happens, even G can drive in a run with runners in scoring position
 

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Aint that the truth pops, hate to sweat it out looks like a real duel. On the other hand would love to see a 4-4 tie in the phils game.
 

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this is why is say the RL -1- is the worse bet in baseball, expecially for the home team, one less bat and walk off HR etc


I think home dogs +1- are one of the best bets in baseball. Seems like lines are still swayed as if they get one less at bat. If they win, doesn't matter, if they're behind they get equal at bats anyway. Plus, you have the advantage of being at home.

Has anybody ever done any research on this?
 
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