Capping MLB 2007 #101a Ov/Un plus Las Vegas Q&A

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PDWS dat fill in

for those gettng ready to start collecting data, it appears that you should be able to get everything you need all on one page off of don best web site, like below. they dont have opening lines up yet but all the rotation numbers dates and times starting pitchers (left show with a -L after pitcher name) all others are right handed. cant get much easier than that

start you engines

http://www.donbest.com/website/html/freeodds/pages/mlb.shtml?1

do you need anyone else to collect data for the PDWS spreadsheets. i can use excel and don't mind "grunt work"
 

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do you need anyone else to collect data for the PDWS spreadsheets. i can use excel and don't mind "grunt work"

if you dont know the drill it email address i crypto format like jsmith at yahoo dot com. from that i send you and email which need to be confirmed back to me with your system requirements etc, once confirmed back that your can comply, i'll send all the spreadsheets from last year. other the this years pdws noting is finished yet, close but no cigar, too many just fucking the dog and putting enought effort into the project, me included
 

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Back in the old days in the CBB thread we talked about auto refresh of web pages, and it was easy with firefox, which i was using at the time, now switch back to IE 7.0 because of 64 capabilities. Is there a way to setup auto refresh with this version? Or do you need to download a seperate program for refresh?
 

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wa nps 4 day, cant see what your looking at and as it depends on which teams are in the boxes so be more specific and i'll filter the same way. that seperate spreadsheet as well as the popsummary will now be incorporated in the the main program under a single tab. all it is a bunch of pivot tables all rolled into a summary report vs going into each pivot table and picking up the data

i'm just trying to comprehend what the last worksheet of "wa_nps_2006 mlb final" labeled "Proj Ov-Un" is about. from what i can tell you appear to make projections on what the total runs scored in a certain game should be. by my count, the projected total was correct 25 times and wrong 19.

i was wondering how you came up with these projected totals and if you broke down how your projected totals did(i.e. how well your projected totals did when the projected total was 1/2 run, 1 run, 2runs, 3 runs, etc. over/under the vegas run line.)?
 

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Been playing wt the pivot table, anybody that receives geppi's 2HF SS distribution, take a look at column J (Diff). If that number is between +2 to +3, layoff that game. The AB OVER % goes from 65% to 75%.
 

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i'm just trying to comprehend what the last worksheet of "wa_nps_2006 mlb final" labeled "Proj Ov-Un" is about. from what i can tell you appear to make projections on what the total runs scored in a certain game should be. by my count, the projected total was correct 25 times and wrong 19.

i was wondering how you came up with these projected totals and if you broke down how your projected totals did(i.e. how well your projected totals did when the projected total was 1/2 run, 1 run, 2runs, 3 runs, etc. over/under the vegas run line.)?

that was our 1st attempt at trying to come up with projected totals, but was not effective. plus we did it so late in the season that we just didnt have much time to do much else. when the 2007 masters are finished the wa nps will not be a stand alone spreadsheet and will be included as just one of the tabs in the total program, but will still function the same way. a couple of us are working to try and put some teeth into making it a true ov/un projection engine, that we can adjust as the year goes on and measure against. but i would expect that to be at least 30-45 day away. so for the time being just treat it as a large pivot table that brings in summary data in about 8 diff areas, most are color coded. if you smart enough to know what's needed and how to fix it to be one let me know and you can head the project
 

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Been playing wt the pivot table, anybody that receives geppi's 2HF SS distribution, take a look at column J (Diff). If that number is between +2 to +3, layoff that game. The AB OVER % goes from 65% to 75%.


Meant to say -2 to -3
 

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Been playing wt the pivot table, anybody that receives geppi's 2HF SS distribution, take a look at column J (Diff). If that number is between +2 to +3, layoff that game. The AB OVER % goes from 65% to 75%.

If the group agrees, we can put this condition into Root and not send those out. I will hold on until I here from the majority (or Pops).
 

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Been playing wt the pivot table, anybody that receives geppi's 2HF SS distribution, take a look at column J (Diff). If that number is between +2 to +3, layoff that game. The AB OVER % goes from 65% to 75%.

a team, i love it when a play comes together or i've created the cappers from hell
 

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pops look again..think requirements listed were minimum.
Your VISTA should be more'n enuf.

downloaded it myself & a whole different browser. Not same look as Firefox or IE tho.
auto refresh working like a charm.
 

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whip is simple reason. let say you have a ump going that's a solid under ump and a pitcher going that .805 whip. ump will be no help, he always throws strikes. now on the other hand you have a pitcher who whip is 1.890 and you draw an eddings, it sure will

let me know if that answers them


makes total sense. i assume a solid over ump would have a bigger impact on poor pitchers because of the tighter strike zone and the likelyhood of more walks.

i tried to test this theory that both solid over and under umps would have a bigger impact on poor pitchers. i'll now try to explain what i tried to do to test this theory and the one problem i encountered.

according to the 2006 thread notes, pitching is the biggest factor in determining a games run line. based on the assumption that both over and under umps have a bigger impact on poor pitchers i wanted to see if the games with higher run lines had a significantly better chance of going over with a over ump and under with a under ump.

looking at the spreadsheet umps04_05_06 i found ten umpires who had an over % greater than 53%(i could have used a higher %, but i wanted to try this on a larger sample first) for both the 04-05 seasons and the 2006 season. using the worksheet labeled OUbyLine found in the mlb2006master spreadsheet i then proceeded to calculate what the over % for these umpires would be if the run line was less than 9.5, less than 8, greater than 9.5, and greater than 10.5 for ther 2006 season. this is where i noticed that there is a discrepancy between the two spreadsheets in the umpire statistics. for example, according to spreadsheet umps04_05_06 jerry crawford umpired 19 overs and 13 unders in 2006, but worksheet OUbyLine indicates that crawford umpired 17 overs and 12 unders. also the last worksheet labeled AL & NL Combined found in the mlb2006master spreadsheet indicates that crawford umped 16 overs and 12 unders.

pops, do you know why there is a discrepancy in the spreadsheets?

is there a way to check how each ump did over/under against the different run lines for the 04-05 seasons like you can for the 2006 season with the OUbyLine worksheet?
 

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If the group agrees, we can put this condition into Root and not send those out. I will hold on until I here from the majority (or Pops).

Instead of 58 total plays, we'd be playing 48 plays but the % goes up 10 pts.

BTW, it should be any value between -2 to -3 not positive as stated in earlier thread.
 

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that was our 1st attempt at trying to come up with projected totals, but was not effective. plus we did it so late in the season that we just didnt have much time to do much else. when the 2007 masters are finished the wa nps will not be a stand alone spreadsheet and will be included as just one of the tabs in the total program, but will still function the same way. a couple of us are working to try and put some teeth into making it a true ov/un projection engine, that we can adjust as the year goes on and measure against. but i would expect that to be at least 30-45 day away. so for the time being just treat it as a large pivot table that brings in summary data in about 8 diff areas, most are color coded. if you smart enough to know what's needed and how to fix it to be one let me know and you can head the project


shoot, i'm not smart enough to figure how you came up with your projections, so i think i would have a difficult time heading a project i can't even comprehend. but if you lead me on the right path i think i can try to figure something out.
 

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Been playing wt the pivot table, anybody that receives geppi's 2HF SS distribution, take a look at column J (Diff). If that number is between +2 to +3, layoff that game. The AB OVER % goes from 65% to 75%.



LOVE it....BUT its -2 or -3 correct.......So I will keep an eye out for it and yes I think we should eleimnate it from notification.....IMO always try and narrow down to give yourself a higher winning percentage
 

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Geppi has the new SS with the pivot tables in zip format. He'll forward it on if he's not busy getting his before dinner BJ.
 

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pops here is my email
vegasplyr1 at yahoo dot com

im headed off to angel park to hit some golf balls hopefully i dont blow away.
 

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If the group agrees, we can put this condition into Root and not send those out. I will hold on until I here from the majority (or Pops).

keep it as is for the time being, everyone that's on notification also receives the spreadsheet, let them make the call. also want ctp to do a double check as well and confirm the numbers as well
 
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