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I'm also new here, and new to sports betting, though I have played a lot of poker and done a lot of casinos. I have had a bad experience with BOS over the past couple of weeks. I never felt that they were trying to rip me off or anything, but my experience there wasn't very good and I probably won't go back.

The reason I made an account at BOS was that they had a line I liked. I made my account, put $300 in, bet on some games, and ended up with $390. I never got a bonus added automatically or anything, and I didn't see anything else I wanted to play, so I went to withdraw the $390.

There was a problem with the payout form, I guess because I live outside of the US. It kept telling me that I hadn't filled out all the fields. I contacted live support, and after about 20 minutes (is it just me or does live support respond really slowly at this site) I was able to convince them that I was filling out the form correctly and get them to process the payout. The money came a day later to neteller with no problems.

A few days later I looked at their site and saw a world cup promotion that looked nice. I contacted live support and asked them about getting the promotion. After checking my account they said that since I had withdrawn the $390 that I wouldn't be eligible, but if I wanted to put the $390 back in and the $500 for the promotion, I could get it.

I made the deposit and contacted live support. They explained a rather confusing set of bonus options and I ended up with a 50% matchplay with a 7x rollover. The support person explained that the wagering requirement would be $500 + $250 * 7 = $5250, and that the other $390 didn't count.

After I did this, I found my MLB lines were much tighter than they had been the first time I deposited. I saw the forum threads about dual lines and figured that was what had happened to me. The really nice MLB underdog prices were now gone and pinnacle was usually beating both sides of the line I was getting.

I had to call in the match play bet, which was okay I guess, although I had to call at like 1 am here to get down on the basketball game I wanted to bet. The bet won, and I got like $225 in my account.

I bet for a week or so, and contacted live support to find out that I had wagered about half of the requirement for the bonus. Another week later, by my records I had wagered the whole $5200, and I had been quite lucky--my $890 was now like $2200. I was happy about that and anxious to withdraw when possible, because $2200 is a fair amount of money for me.

I contacted live support to clear the bonus and was told that the wagering requirement was $890 * $250 * 7 = 7980. I protested over support
for a few minutes, and they found a note somewhere in my account that said I was right and that I had wagered the $5200. So I go to withdraw. As before, the payout form doesn't work. I contact support about the form. The support person refers me to someone in payout who processes the payout. The payout person tells me that I haven't met the wagering requirement of 7980. I tell him about my previous conversations. He finds the note somewhere in my account and processes the payout. This was a lot more frustrating at the time than I am making it sound here. Anyway, the payout eventually gets done and the money hits neteller a day or so later.


I don't think that BOS was dishonest with me or anything, it's just that I wasn't happy that the lines changed, and I wasn't happy that I had to contact support about 10 times through the thing to do various stuff. Overall, I found the site to be clunky, difficult to use, and I found the lines to be pretty poor value. However, the bonus was good and I understand how the $890-vs-$500 deposit thing was confusing to support. I just wish I had only had to have the argument once instead of several times. By the time I was waiting for my payout, I had read various negative threads about BOS here and if I hadn't already received the successful payout from them the first time, I would've been nervous about my money.

Anyway, they came across as a rather disorganised place, and I felt that some of their lines were so bad as to suggest that they simply didn't want to play with anyone who was looking at prices. I mostly felt my money was safe there, but I don't think I'll be redepositing anytime soon, as I didn't really enjoy the experience and there are other places to play that have offered me better lines and much less hassle.
 

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Welcome to The Rx. -- feel free to contact Jamie Owen at BOS in the future if you have any concerns with your account there. He will make sure you have all your questions answered promptly.


Jamie Owen
Customer Service Manager
BETonSPORTS PLC
1-888-999-2387 Ext 2650
jamie@betonsports.co.cr


Thanks, wilheim..
 

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Coach LT said:
What continues to amaze me is this issue of "Chasing Steam" If "chasing steam" is Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo Bad, why do the books continue to let the "STEAM ORIGINATORS" PLAY? The "Regular Players" are paying for the sins of the "Steam Originators" It seems the OBVIOUS SOLUTION is to cut the "Steam Originators" off. Like I said earlier, some books are NOT satisfied with a 95% edge. Is it not "CURIOUS" that the Majority of complaints are lodged at a minuscule number of books? You can paint a hogs face with lipstick but it will still be a HOG. LT

:lolBIG:

This thread needed some Southern humor and logic....thanks LT.

Something I dont understand is if books are so worried about line moves, why dont books get off their asses and be quicker with moving lines or cut limits of people who exclusively bet steam?

They could use Don Best and have certain employees that are responsible for watching the screen. Probably not as simple as it seems to myself, but it isnt a wise business decision for the same books to have the same types of controversies about steam chasers and dealing dual lines...both issues chase away much potential business.

I sure would like a piece of that 50% bonus BOS is offering, but with all the other questionable tactics from these types of books, I will stick with a plan similar to LT and play only at the proven solid shops that avoid this type of bullshit. Pinny & Cris are my primaries for foot & basket, and also give Skybook plenty of action.

Has Jay C changed his opinion of BOS?

I respect what he posts here and would like to know whether or not he currently gives a thumbs up (or down) to BOS.
 

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Something I dont understand is if books are so worried about line moves, why dont books get off their asses and be quicker with moving lines or cut limits of people who exclusively bet steam?

The other side of that coin is what many players complain about - books moving on air or before they get any action at a number. Most likely many books do simply watch Don Best and move their numbers without a bet but there is still a time lapse that exists between even with the most attentive line manager from when a line moves on DB and a books excecutes the change on their site.

I think another complaint is books cutting player limits because they bet steam - it happens at BOS and many other places offshore.


FWIW - I hope you stay and prosper at Pinnacle and CRIS, some books don't work for everyone.


wil.
 

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Wil, outstanding job.
Thanks for covering all the bases.
 

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Thanks and welcome to The Rx..

Feel free to email me at wilheim@therx.com if I can ever be of any help to you here at The Rx...



BOL.. wil
 

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Just got refused the 50% bonus here for some reason, got it last time i asked , got offered a 20% freeplay instead.
 

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k_t said:
Just got refused the 50% bonus here for some reason, got it last time i asked , got offered a 20% freeplay instead.

That was a special short time promo.

20% freeplay is for the most part their standard.
 

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k_t said:
Just got refused the 50% bonus here for some reason, got it last time i asked , got offered a 20% freeplay instead.

Good thing so many people have posted warnings about this place otherwise people might still try and sign up with them.
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k_t<SCRIPT type=text/javascript> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2973129", true); </SCRIPT> WTF are you doing putting money in there?

There are only like a gazzillion books out there and your chasing a boner at BOS.

I see you have 8 post so probably some what new to sports betting so trust the veterans here and simply ask around first.
 

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``I would like to know why anyone wants to play at this book when they have the worst baseball lines in the universe. I can see why you want to bet there during the football season, because if you're a contrarian bettor, they sure move the lines the way the public is betting.

If there are continuing stories about problems with certain books, WHY would anyone want to play there? I mean would anyone put a dime in a Bet Royal account? It irks me that this site wouldn't take the banner down in this case.
 

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next week im going to contact some stock writers and go that way and try to publicise their behaviour - believe me when i say mums and dads and hedge funds will not hold their stock while they are stiffing clients and bending the rules

the market is quick to dump a dog and clearly we are dealing with people with limited ethics.
 

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One month old thread and still going strong. :103631605 A book (paperback or hard cover) deal is in the makings.
 

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wilheim said:
I just got off the phone with Jamie Owen at BOS and he assures me no wagers will be cancelled unless they are at an obvious bad line (Eg. Yanks +300 when should be Yanks -300). Players that are identified as steam players over a period of time by risk management will be refunded balances after all pending wagers are graded (futures will also be honored). This is not new policy at BOS and has been in place for a long time. Many other books do the very same thing.

I think the line manager last night used unfortunate terminology when he said he would cancel wagers deemed to be steam. Bottom line is NO WAGERS will be cancelled after they have been made (at fair prices) unless the player himself asks for the bet to be cancelled. As far as that goes: players cannot cancel wagers at will - BOS will work with clients who make mistakes and try to cancel a wager placed in error. I know this depends on what happend to the line in the meantime.


Anyone who ever needs information about BOS policy is free to call Jamie during normal business hours at:

Jamie Owen
Customer Service Manager
BETonSPORTS PLC
1-888-999-2387 Ext 2650
jamie@betonsports.co.cr

Also feel free to email me at wilheim@therx.com if you ever have a problem with BOS.


Thanks, wil..

Interesting that noone has bumped this comment from the BOS customer service manager, in light of all the winning bets that were cancelled after the games were completed.
 

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Promo still on the website,and was asked my acc No before being refused,so i guess it's still available for some.

The 50% was tempting, I wasn't planning on wining there :)
 

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