I am not running for public office.... Im not begging to be liked on this forum.. i have followed this place longer than most... you guys can rip me or choose not to believe me... that is fine..... I can assure its true. but forget that ....regardless who is posting this yes forget its me .... do any of you agree with what betonline did? what if it was u, what if it was your best friend. or your brother..... see you would call foul.... but because you dont know me. or your not familiar with me u discredit me... it happened and it can happen to you.... the book should make it right....
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squirrelsear are you Chinese, Japanese or Vietnamese by chance?
If you and your padres haven't figured it out by now. Any online casino whether it be Betonline or Squirrelsonline aren't set up for players to win. Yes some players win, however 99.99% of online casino players lose. There isn't any pattern and yes you can lose $8,000 playing $100 a hand online just as easy as you can at a land based casino. I know you find this hard to believe but it's just the way it is.
Your complaint is that your account was left open to play casino for 10+ days after it was requested to be closed and it wasn't, you went in and won $2,000, Crooksonline closed the casino, back dated it, and removed the 2K in winnings in the process.
What did you expect the outcome to be? What happens if you lost $2,000 instead of winning $2,000. You would still be here going nuts about it right? Afterall why would they allow you to lose $2,000 more and then close the account.
I'll call BS when I see BS, because the books I deal with, I don't have to send in paperwork to have the casino deactivated on my account. I go to live chat and request it and it's done right then and there.
I'll even go one step further, I USED to play at Crooksonline as well. I won a very substantial amount sportsbetting. I didn't deposit much either, I as well started to dabble into the casino playing Black Jack and Video Poker. I also lost a considerable amount in the casino just as you did. I also asked for them to close the casino portion. They did the same thing as they did to you. Only difference is I lost more but I never complained because it was my own stupidity that led to it happening.
I cashed out a very large amount after that incident and that was a lesson I learned very early on. So I make sure before I deposit into a book that the casino is deactivated and I tell them to not open it under any circumstances no matter what I tell them afterwords and make them agree to that stipulation. To this day, I haven't played online casino where I do my sportsbetting and it will continue that way. It's too easy to get caught up in the rush and the thought process to get the money back, afterall it has to change in our favor right? WRONG!
Have Crooksonline send you your casino history of hands and then post them for all to see.
I know where you are coming from, however one has to take responsibility for their actions. So do you and your friends.
If you and your padres haven't figured it out by now. Any online casino whether it be Betonline or Squirrelsonline aren't set up for players to win. Yes some players win, however 99.99% of online casino players lose. There isn't any pattern and yes you can lose $8,000 playing $100 a hand online just as easy as you can at a land based casino. I know you find this hard to believe but it's just the way it is.
Your complaint is that your account was left open to play casino for 10+ days after it was requested to be closed and it wasn't, you went in and won $2,000, Crooksonline closed the casino, back dated it, and removed the 2K in winnings in the process.
What did you expect the outcome to be? What happens if you lost $2,000 instead of winning $2,000. You would still be here going nuts about it right? Afterall why would they allow you to lose $2,000 more and then close the account.
I'll call BS when I see BS, because the books I deal with, I don't have to send in paperwork to have the casino deactivated on my account. I go to live chat and request it and it's done right then and there.
I'll even go one step further, I USED to play at Crooksonline as well. I won a very substantial amount sportsbetting. I didn't deposit much either, I as well started to dabble into the casino playing Black Jack and Video Poker. I also lost a considerable amount in the casino just as you did. I also asked for them to close the casino portion. They did the same thing as they did to you. Only difference is I lost more but I never complained because it was my own stupidity that led to it happening.
I cashed out a very large amount after that incident and that was a lesson I learned very early on. So I make sure before I deposit into a book that the casino is deactivated and I tell them to not open it under any circumstances no matter what I tell them afterwords and make them agree to that stipulation. To this day, I haven't played online casino where I do my sportsbetting and it will continue that way. It's too easy to get caught up in the rush and the thought process to get the money back, afterall it has to change in our favor right? WRONG!
Have Crooksonline send you your casino history of hands and then post them for all to see.
I know where you are coming from, however one has to take responsibility for their actions. So do you and your friends.
it does sound a little shadey...from my experience these offshores use time in their favor to get you to spend your money...dont think they counted on you winning though. Problem is that you did asked to have your casino play disabled id like to believe they would have refunded you win/lose. Ha
I have no idea if any of this is true. But if it is, they have to put the winnings back into the account. We all know that had he lost, they would have said "sorry sir, it takes awhile to get it disabled." A bet is a bet and if the casino was not disabled and he bet and won, they have to pay. Period.
This is what I love about this guy. in the Same sentence he asks me for Help, But then insults me.
anyway, since 2007 ( even before I came to work at The RX ) I have Helped posters get paid from Betonline.
Doesn't matter How or what my connection is with them, I would help the RX with disputes with this Book.
I was a little shocked at the amount of Money that was in play. because to tell you the truth, I thought Forum posters were just $25-$100 per game bettors. One account alone was High 5 figures.
Anyway... doesn't matter what size gambler you are, if you are in the right... then I will do what i can to help.
and No, it doesn't matter if it's You or a "Friend" that we are talking about. But if i was to post the Email i received from your "Friend" to show Everyone here... 9 out of 10 would say it's You. ( the 1 would give you the benefit of the doubt)
I think in your "Friend's" case, you don't want me to handle this dispute.
Reason being is I know the detail's from your "Friend" and Yourself already.
I have handled somewhere around 50-60 disputes between 2008 -2013 with Multiple Books.
I handle All Betonline disputes.
I'm not going to say who is wrong, or Who is Right. But I have a problem with the way you have come on here EVERYTIME your "Friend" has a Pay-out coming.
I remember when you came here a couple of months ago Crying about how Betonline can't be trusted, and you don't know what to do.... or what your "Friend" is going to do.
Multiple people told you to contact me, and I would look into it. When I saw your Post ( about 3 Threads as well ) I told you don't worry, your "Friend" will get paid. Which he Did.
Betonline Closed the Horse Book, which they had every right to do. ( I have had it done to me )
Now I want you to look at this Current problem as an Outsider .... You know... like you posted above... make believe it's not you that is posting this.
Your Friend at first said the Casino was cheating him. So he asked for it to be closed. It wasn't Closed right away...
That's probably wrong of Them to not close it ASAP.
But your Friend Did ask for it to be Closed.
But Your "Friend" went ahead and played anyway... Why ? was he taking a Shot at them ? If he would have Lost, would he have told them.. Hey, it was suppose to be Closed and I want my Money back ??
Maybe Yes... Maybe No ...
So Who is Wrong here ? The Book ?? Your "Friend" ??
Maybe Both..
I just think it's a hard case to Prove.
Not sure where those numbers came from. But everything he won with the Horses and Sports Gambling was paid in Full.
I forget what it was $15K ?? $17K ??
The Player lost money in the Casino, after losing. He decided to Close the Casino. Betonline didn't close it right away. But the player saw it wasn't closed and Played. Won $2,000. the book said No pay-out on the $2k because you weren't suppose to play in the Casino.
We really don't know what would have happened if he Lost $2K in the casino after asking for it to be Closed.
That's why I said it's a hard case to figure.
The closed should have been Closed faster, but the Player shouldn't have played.
Both Wrong > I think so... just my opinion
I don't think it's hard to figure out at all and is a microcosm of what's wrong with our society. So the guy asked it to be closed and they didn't close it right away? So what, he still made the personal decision to play. HE MADE A PERSONAL DECISION TO PLAY ON HIS OWN.
Now, if he won money, he should be paid. If he had lost money, I'd have told him to fuck off. HE MADE A PERSONAL DECISION TO PLAY ON HIS OWN.
Act like a grown ass man and accept responsibility for your actions. It's nobody's fault but your own.
He asked for it to be closed. They made him jump through hoops. Typical bullshit. "Sir, before we disable, we need a urine sample, HIV test, and 6 forms of ID" Of course they were delaying for one reason only.....to get him to lose. He won, though, so they have to pay. I know you're a shill, but c'mon.
Again, if all his facts check out.
The player is a degenerate gambler. He wasn't "taking a shot." If he lost, he would be pissed, but would have no leg to stand on. The account was casino enabled, and he chose to bet. You can't retroactively disable after a win, especially since he was playing in the waiting period.
