But he still be "so weak"?I find it comical that I posted last week that baseball was the toughest sport to beat. I was all but laughed at.I emailed sportsmemo about 2008 baseball records and here is the email I got back:
"Here are the baseball records from 2008
TT 91-85 +3.6
FJ 111-108 +1.3
ER 115-121 -3.1
TC 116-116 -5.6
RV 263-276 -23.8
While last season Erin was basically "break-even" he had delivered
back-to-back monster campaigns in 2006 and 2007 and netted over 40+ units
those two seasons. He should have a big campaign in 2009.
Alatex, Klein, Otto did not do baseball last season but are doing it this
year."
I feel that ER is the best out of this group.
Yes, I tried Doc's handicapper Vince out. Doc's son, Wayne, said set up a 20 units bankroll. Twenty one days later, Doc was down 34 units.
Stay away form Doc's site.
No one wins over there. The Indian Cowboy is streaky.
All others lose.
He is the worst at Doc's site. He is a high volume handicapper that cannot win.What about this Ferringo guy??? Went 2-0 last night and claims that he took in +300 units last season.... Fake record? or can anyone confirm?
What about this Ferringo guy??? Went 2-0 last night and claims that he took in +300 units last season.... Fake record? or can anyone confirm?
You say that I am harsh.Saw the same thing on Ferringo, Harley. any thoughts out there? or any thoughts on Doc's new guy, Dave Busk? i think to say everyone loses there is harsh. i am very critical of those guys and IC is not bad at all. streaky, but he does the analysis. everybody loses otherwise all books would go bust.
There a few handicappers that win. I have seen them all come and go, from Mike Warren to the Professor, to Kelso Sturgeon.Saw the same thing on Ferringo, Harley. any thoughts out there? or any thoughts on Doc's new guy, Dave Busk? i think to say everyone loses there is harsh. i am very critical of those guys and IC is not bad at all. streaky, but he does the analysis. everybody loses otherwise all books would go bust.

AS FAR AS DOCS I AGREE WITH FRASER 100 % . ITS MOSTLY SMOKE & MIRRORS . I KNOW IN THE PAST THEY DID NOT ! INCLUDE THE JUICE ON THEIR UNITS WON & LOSS ( i believe this is still the case for all sports ) FOR A SITE WHO CLAIMS TO BE SO REPUTABLE WHY NOT HAVE ALL YOUR CAPPERS MONITORED ( okla or sportswatch). SOMETHING SMELLS THERE.
FERRINGO IS A CLOWN WHO HAS HIS CLIENTS RISK WAY !! TOO MANY UNITS EVERY NIGHT . (all sports)
THEY ARE A LOT LIKE (not nearly as good ) THE SPORTSMEMO CREW THEY THRIVE & PROMOTE THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE ETHICS & ARE REPUTABLE ( that's all well & good ) BUT YEAR AFTER YEAR , SEASON AFTER SEASON MOST OF THEM BARELY SQUEKK OUT A LONG TERM PROFIT .
I WILL SAY ONE THING AS FAR AS BASEBALL WAGERING IS CONCERNED IT IS BY FAR THE BIGGEST SPORT THAT SQUARES GET CRUSHED IN ( b/c they don't know what the f**k they're doing) BUT IT IS A FACT THAT SHARP BETTORS CAN GRIND AWAY PROFIT SUMMER AFTER SUMMER , BUT LETS FACE IT VERY FEW OF THESE "TOUTS" ARE SHARP BETTORS
I find it comical that I posted last week that baseball was the toughest sport to beat. I was all but laughed at.
The Sports Memo group are supposed to be the best in the handicapping business and none of them could win last year.
Just thought I would mention that!!!:lol:
Thanks so much for this post. This is exactly what I have been trying to tell this forum. One has to be very careful who one follows in baseball. If you have to pay for your picks, it is terrilby hard to make a profit.AS FAR AS DOCS I AGREE WITH FRASER 100 % . ITS MOSTLY SMOKE & MIRRORS . I KNOW IN THE PAST THEY DID NOT ! INCLUDE THE JUICE ON THEIR UNITS WON & LOSS ( i believe this is still the case for all sports ) FOR A SITE WHO CLAIMS TO BE SO REPUTABLE WHY NOT HAVE ALL YOUR CAPPERS MONITORED ( okla or sportswatch). SOMETHING SMELLS THERE.
FERRINGO IS A CLOWN WHO HAS HIS CLIENTS RISK WAY !! TOO MANY UNITS EVERY NIGHT . (all sports)
THEY ARE A LOT LIKE (not nearly as good ) THE SPORTSMEMO CREW THEY THRIVE & PROMOTE THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE ETHICS & ARE REPUTABLE ( that's all well & good ) BUT YEAR AFTER YEAR , SEASON AFTER SEASON MOST OF THEM BARELY SQUEKK OUT A LONG TERM PROFIT . ( & add in the fact that their prices are outrageous !)
I WILL SAY ONE THING AS FAR AS BASEBALL WAGERING IS CONCERNED IT IS BY FAR THE BIGGEST SPORT THAT SQUARES GET CRUSHED IN ( b/c they don't know what the f**k they're doing) BUT IT IS A FACT (ask a REAL ! BOOKIE ) THAT SHARP BETTORS CAN GRIND AWAY PROFIT SUMMER AFTER SUMMER , BUT LETS FACE IT VERY FEW OF THESE "TOUTS" ARE SHARP BETTORS
Printman,Fraser, I can only agree with you to a degree.
I find Doc's reputable and I have made money with Indian Cowboy. Sorry, that's just the truth.
IC has made me a ton of money honestly from January (64%), he profited in February, lost money for me in March and he is on fire again in April.
I don't know about Doc's gross Units in the past but I do know Doc's keeps net units for giving out free weeks and months if they did not profit. In fact, they keep working for you until they do show you a profit, and usually they do, sometimes they don't.
I don't know about Ferringo in the past, but he did make 300 Units last year. I know b/c I was on the boat for 120 of them as I joined late.
And, these "monitoring services". I've said it before, the majority of handicappers choose not to get tracked, but that doesn't mean, Doc's, IC, Anthony Redd, "the Prez", Covers Experts are bad people just because they don't get tracked.
I will agree with you that most people don't win in the long run, I just don't think ALL people lose in the long run.
No offense taken, and I apologize for coming off so strong. I do know that Ferringo did win last year. I do know the he lost bigtime the year before. The problem with high volume cappers is that when they are bad, they tend to blow you out of the water.JMO,
I didn't mean any offense. So, when I reply to you or when you reply to me, don't be so harsh. We're having a discussion that's all. But, I'm not sure if you know or not, but the same toptencappers also has all of IC's plays published every day. The other cappers on there are published too. You are right though, there is no consensus. You are also right that you have been around longer it seems, but we all know the song and dance these cappers too. I've been aroung gaming for about a decade - you seem to be around longer.
I do agree man that services prey on the week and 90% are bad. I just don't think all are bad and of course, I think some are expensive as well. As for your offer, it makes me chuckle. I said I agreed in part with you and not on the other part. I don't expect you to agree with that or not, that's up to you, just like I can choose to agree with all or some of what you say.
I have nothing againts you dawg, so again, relax.
Ferringo did make 300 Units last year. This doesn't mean he will make 300 Units this year though. And to set the bar for a guy that has its best year to date, would be foolish on my end b/c I don't know how Ferringo did the last 2 years. I do think he profits this year though. Each season is different. What I know is what I know and that is I made good money with him last year and IC has made me overall this year in Hoops.
No offense dawg, take it easy and I do respect your opinion and agree with most of what you say. @)