are u asking for $20 to take them off his hands? LOL or do u actually pay 20 for these cardboards?
-murph
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murph is going to help me out i took pics of the mantle card and he will verify if it is real or a reprint
also he told me the cards from the 80s and 90s are worth nothing... so i guess this mantle (if real) and the mcguire card are the only things with any value...but i may have a few others worth something, well see... thanks for the input
also he told me the cards from the 80s and 90s are worth nothing... so i guess this mantle (if real) and the mcguire card are the only things with any value...but i may have a few others worth something, well see... thanks for the input
to clarify this a bit more.. the 80s and 90s cards are usually worth less than the paper they are printed on due to overproduction and mass collecting and saving... the very reason cards from the 50s and 60s are worth big money is because people DIDNT save and collect them.. they ended up throwing them away.. or using them as bike spokes.. or trading them.. etc.. and there just isnt that many laying around anymore as a whole... the 80s-present stuff, people began to collect as a hobby and save them knowing they would be worth money later.. well that in fact ruined the market for them as their is literally millions of each card in existence.. therein lies the problem
in any case.. if u were to bundle all stars /rookies.. etc (even sort by team) u could probably sell these for 100 cards for a few bucks.....and some of the big name rookies u might get a buck or two for (unless they are really premium copies of a highly collectible rookie like jordan(obviously worth money)/arod(one of his rookies in mint goes for 300)/etc but the commons are hard to even give away anymore ...its sad to say i myself have over a million+ of these damn things :toast:
-murph
Used to collect when I was a kid (late 70s) until the early 90s. Have some nice cards, but in this market you won't get much for them. Pretty much anything mid 80s on up are not worth anything due to mass overproduction. Will probably just keep them in my basement and give them to my kids when they are older. Wish I would of sold my 1985 Topps McGwire and 1990 Sammy Sosa Leaf rookies in 1998 when they had the homerun outburst. Now they aren't worth shit.
u have a mickey mantle rookie card? - not to be skeptical, but its probably not original... and is it the 1951 bowman (real rookie) or the 1952 topps (what card collectors consider/call the rookie)
i highly doubt any mgguire card is worth 10k.. not sure which website u seen.
in any case post some pics and info about the cards in particular u wonder about and i will tell u exactly how much these are "worth" and what they are "FMV" whether ebay or another auction source at.
feel free to ask any questions as I know quite a lot about the card industry and value... although I do focus more on 40s-60s era. If u want pm me... but I assume u arent looking for privacy since u posted the questions on the open board, so all help is here
-murph
I totally agree about the Mgguire card. No way there is a 10 grand card of him anywhere. I collect a lot of cards and if someone has a 52 Mantle you better get it graded before you sell it. I think you can't sell on eBay unless it is graded because of the amount of fakes and reprints.
Saw this back then when I was collecting and seeing how many companies started making cards and the numbers they were producing. I started to get cards and sell them right away when they had high value and took that money to buy older cards from the60's mostly, some 50's, star rookie cards, and some unopened boxes... Best move I made. All my cards are still packed away and I still go around buying with the same strategy, some real good values out there...
All those cards from 80-90's many people took a bath buying them up and lost most of their value. Would guess many of those people threw them away or let them rot...
All those cards from 80-90's many people took a bath buying them up and lost most of their value. Would guess many of those people threw them away or let them rot...
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Card traders' fortunes shift over time By Francis Scarcella 01/23/2012 1:03 PM
LEWISBURG -- You may have $2.2 million sitting in a box in your attic and you don't even know it.
In the early 1990s, baseball cards were being produced at an estimated 81 billion cards per year with some of those cards being worth hundreds of dollars each, but more than 20 years later popularity and price have seen ups and downs, said Bill Shaffer, owner of Shaffer's Trading Cards.
Except for the T-206 1909 Honus Wagner rookie card.
In 1979, the Wagner rookie card was thought to be one of 10 produced. About 40 that have been discovered.
The most recent Wagner card to be sold was in 2009, where a buyer from California paid $2.2 million for it.
"The vintage stuff has skyrocketed in price," Shaffer said. "It's the newer stuff that isn't as much or has stayed the same."
Shaffer has been dealing with trading cards for 35 years and it's the living he and his wife Darlene chose to have.
More than 35 years ago the Topps Company was the only company selling trading cards of Major League Baseball.
A few companies came along, and in 1981 Fleer and Dunruss card companies made their debuts.
"Then a bunch more started to pop up," Shaffer said.
"One after one, companies began buying each other and in the end only one company was left standing."
The Topps company remained the leader in trading cards, Shaffer said.
"They never did attempt to buy anyone or do anything. They stayed doing exactly what they were doing and they are now the only licensed company to sell Major League baseball cards."
The Topps Company issued its first cards in 1951and was founded in 1938 as Topps Chewing Gum. In its early years, Topps produced a popular penny "Topps Gum" from a factory in Brooklyn, N.Y. In 1950, Topps added trading cards to its product line. Baseball cards appeared in 1951 now the company produces trading cards that features football basketball players, in addition to entertainment cards and stickers and albums.
Shaffer said that even though it appears that children are the collectors, it is an adult business.
"They started with putting cards in cigarette packs," he said.
A pack of cards in 1979 cost around 15 cents, Shaffer said.
"Now the price is at $2 per pack," he said.
"I've lived through all the changes and price changes."
Packs of cards used to have bubble gum included with them, but that practice has since stopped, Shaffer said.
Searching value of what you may have, or may have found hidden away, is as easy as buying a price guide, Shaffer said.
"You would be surprised at some of the prices," he said.
"Most of the cards that were made in the early 90s were over made which lead to price being brought down."
Shaffer said if you are a rookie and looking to start a collection -- start with rookies.
That's where people go," he said.
"They get a hot rookie and collect from there."
But if you are looking for that Wagner card and you get lucky and find one, even if its ripped it could buy you a new house.
"I saw one that was missing a piece of the card at a trade show and it sold for $150,000," Shaffer said.
"They say there is only 40, but they just keep popping up."
n Email comments to fscarcella@dailyitem.com.
Card traders' fortunes shift over time By Francis Scarcella 01/23/2012 1:03 PM
LEWISBURG -- You may have $2.2 million sitting in a box in your attic and you don't even know it.
In the early 1990s, baseball cards were being produced at an estimated 81 billion cards per year with some of those cards being worth hundreds of dollars each, but more than 20 years later popularity and price have seen ups and downs, said Bill Shaffer, owner of Shaffer's Trading Cards.
Except for the T-206 1909 Honus Wagner rookie card.
In 1979, the Wagner rookie card was thought to be one of 10 produced. About 40 that have been discovered.
The most recent Wagner card to be sold was in 2009, where a buyer from California paid $2.2 million for it.
"The vintage stuff has skyrocketed in price," Shaffer said. "It's the newer stuff that isn't as much or has stayed the same."
Shaffer has been dealing with trading cards for 35 years and it's the living he and his wife Darlene chose to have.
More than 35 years ago the Topps Company was the only company selling trading cards of Major League Baseball.
A few companies came along, and in 1981 Fleer and Dunruss card companies made their debuts.
"Then a bunch more started to pop up," Shaffer said.
"One after one, companies began buying each other and in the end only one company was left standing."
The Topps company remained the leader in trading cards, Shaffer said.
"They never did attempt to buy anyone or do anything. They stayed doing exactly what they were doing and they are now the only licensed company to sell Major League baseball cards."
The Topps Company issued its first cards in 1951and was founded in 1938 as Topps Chewing Gum. In its early years, Topps produced a popular penny "Topps Gum" from a factory in Brooklyn, N.Y. In 1950, Topps added trading cards to its product line. Baseball cards appeared in 1951 now the company produces trading cards that features football basketball players, in addition to entertainment cards and stickers and albums.
Shaffer said that even though it appears that children are the collectors, it is an adult business.
"They started with putting cards in cigarette packs," he said.
A pack of cards in 1979 cost around 15 cents, Shaffer said.
"Now the price is at $2 per pack," he said.
"I've lived through all the changes and price changes."
Packs of cards used to have bubble gum included with them, but that practice has since stopped, Shaffer said.
Searching value of what you may have, or may have found hidden away, is as easy as buying a price guide, Shaffer said.
"You would be surprised at some of the prices," he said.
"Most of the cards that were made in the early 90s were over made which lead to price being brought down."
Shaffer said if you are a rookie and looking to start a collection -- start with rookies.
That's where people go," he said.
"They get a hot rookie and collect from there."
But if you are looking for that Wagner card and you get lucky and find one, even if its ripped it could buy you a new house.
"I saw one that was missing a piece of the card at a trade show and it sold for $150,000," Shaffer said.
"They say there is only 40, but they just keep popping up."
n Email comments to fscarcella@dailyitem.com.
I got this one in a box I bought. Total luck. It's an A.P. auto serial #1 of 25. Ebay has this same card with higher serial numbers with "buy it now" of anywhere from $550 - 1k. I could use to unload it but with AP's injury, it's not going to be as easy as before. If any of you guys are movers on this type card, let me know
you should collect bobbleheads. You guys are right with the mass over production of baseball cards. I myself are 31 yrs old and I collected cards in the 80's an 90's. Have a ton!
But everyone has what I have!
About 10 years back I got into collecting very rare bobbleheads. I have some awesome display cases and they are really cool to look at and I know for sure down the road they will be worth some good dough. Alot of my bobbleheads I can sell for 65-125 right now. I paid roughly 20-35 for them.
But everyone has what I have!
About 10 years back I got into collecting very rare bobbleheads. I have some awesome display cases and they are really cool to look at and I know for sure down the road they will be worth some good dough. Alot of my bobbleheads I can sell for 65-125 right now. I paid roughly 20-35 for them.
