Roy Jackson is the grandson of the Standard Oil Rockefeller. I am not a fan of the Jacksons at all and for a damn good business reason that needs to remain personal. There are a number of horses living decent lives in a pasture with a prosthetic limb after an amputation. Barbaro could have been one of them if they merely wanted to save his life. Had he been a standardbred and AI could have been used to produce progeny that's exactly what would have been done. Just don't kid yourselves about the motives.
We had one breakdown and euthanized on the track shortly a few races after he was claimed from us last year. Took us quite awhile to get over it even though we had no monetary connection to him anymore. He was a $5K claimer who overcame all kinds of infirmities to make us steady checks, albeit small ones, and he won his last time out for us. He was also a noble warrior with good breeding and a huge heart, but just an everyday hard knocker who fought like the devil everytime he ran. He was the victim of the needle and the damage done by a previous trainer and was running in the last days of his last meet for us before we would have turned him out when he was claimed. He was always given extra rest by us between starts and was never run on an off track. Not so by the new owners who ran him back on slop with very short rest. His life was precious to us but apparently he was just a check to the new connections. Well he never got them even one.
Very sad for this majestic horse Barbaro, but I don't feel for the Jacksons at all. Eclipse award winners but hardly heroes.
We had one breakdown and euthanized on the track shortly a few races after he was claimed from us last year. Took us quite awhile to get over it even though we had no monetary connection to him anymore. He was a $5K claimer who overcame all kinds of infirmities to make us steady checks, albeit small ones, and he won his last time out for us. He was also a noble warrior with good breeding and a huge heart, but just an everyday hard knocker who fought like the devil everytime he ran. He was the victim of the needle and the damage done by a previous trainer and was running in the last days of his last meet for us before we would have turned him out when he was claimed. He was always given extra rest by us between starts and was never run on an off track. Not so by the new owners who ran him back on slop with very short rest. His life was precious to us but apparently he was just a check to the new connections. Well he never got them even one.
Very sad for this majestic horse Barbaro, but I don't feel for the Jacksons at all. Eclipse award winners but hardly heroes.
This isn't quite when Secretariat died and the commentator for CBS (or NBC or whatever station it was) literally starting crying, but it's certainly emotional.
Fish, you mentioned the obvious question... how many people here really care about animals... it's not about an animal. This was also an athlete. This horse had the shot to do something that no one has done in a long time. Though I don't think he stood a shot at the Triple Crown, we'll never really know. That horse was special though. I mean, even as recently as a few years ago, that horse would've been put to sleep within 24 hours. This was truly a great survival story that unfortunately had a sad ending to it.
Someone else mentioned that horses die every day. Tis true... I'm sure quite a few of them do. But quite a few humans die every day as well. We don't take the time to recognize each and every one of them, but if a famous athlete dies, the whole country, and in some cases, the world world stops to take notice.
Barbaro was more than just your average horse. Barbaro was the winner of the Kentucky Freakin' Derby... Just like the winning QB in the Super Bowl, the winning pitcher in the clinching game of the World Series, the goalie in the Stanley Cup, etc.
I remember I was en route to Austin during the race. I was on the phone with my father while I was sitting in Atlanta's airport getting the call of the race from him. He didn't tell me who won. All I kept hearing was "Fuck, Barbaro broke his leg. They're gonna have to put that horse down."
I was born on Derby Day '85 (Spend a Buck) and grew up a short drive from Belmont Racetrack, so horse racing will always have a special place in my heart. I can only hope this horse was put to rest before the worst of the pain set in and not a moment too late.
Fish, you mentioned the obvious question... how many people here really care about animals... it's not about an animal. This was also an athlete. This horse had the shot to do something that no one has done in a long time. Though I don't think he stood a shot at the Triple Crown, we'll never really know. That horse was special though. I mean, even as recently as a few years ago, that horse would've been put to sleep within 24 hours. This was truly a great survival story that unfortunately had a sad ending to it.
Someone else mentioned that horses die every day. Tis true... I'm sure quite a few of them do. But quite a few humans die every day as well. We don't take the time to recognize each and every one of them, but if a famous athlete dies, the whole country, and in some cases, the world world stops to take notice.
Barbaro was more than just your average horse. Barbaro was the winner of the Kentucky Freakin' Derby... Just like the winning QB in the Super Bowl, the winning pitcher in the clinching game of the World Series, the goalie in the Stanley Cup, etc.
I remember I was en route to Austin during the race. I was on the phone with my father while I was sitting in Atlanta's airport getting the call of the race from him. He didn't tell me who won. All I kept hearing was "Fuck, Barbaro broke his leg. They're gonna have to put that horse down."
I was born on Derby Day '85 (Spend a Buck) and grew up a short drive from Belmont Racetrack, so horse racing will always have a special place in my heart. I can only hope this horse was put to rest before the worst of the pain set in and not a moment too late.
sean1 said:
Even if New Bolton was engaging in their most blatant overbilling for Barbaro, the bill wouldn't have gotten much beyond $1m.
I can think that they weren't donating their care on him. The center has, in recent years, been on somewhat shaky financial ground. Even in anticipation of more donations as a result of caring for Barbaro, I can not picture them foregoing the money in the here and now.
hosnatcher said:
Its worthless Sperm only old fashion sex allowed:hump:
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Breeding Practices Not Approved by The Jockey Club
Artificial Insemination: The process of depositing semen into the reproductive tract of a broodmare in order to get a broodmare in foal (pregnant) without the physical mounting by a stallion.
Cloning: Any method by which the genetic material of an unfertilized egg or an embryo is (i) removed, (ii) replaced by genetic material taken from another organism, (iii) added to with genetic material from another organism, or (iv) otherwise modified by any means in order to produce a live foal.
Embryo Transfer (Transplants): The method whereby a developing embryo or unfertilized egg is removed from its natural dam and implanted into the reproductive tract of either the natural dam or a host dam for a portion of the gestation period in order to produce a live foal.
Breeding Terminology
Bred (Mated): Any filly or mare that has undergone the physical act of breeding (mating).
Bred (Area Foaled): The term "bred" is sometimes used to describe the location where a foal was born, i.e., Kentucky Bred, New York Bred, etc.
http://www.jockeyclub.com/registry.asp?section=3#ninteen
I agree the horse should have been put down the day it happened. Barbaro died that day on the racing track like a great horse would want. At least some of these horse people would tell us that's what he might have wanted.
It's a freakin horse. He was a fast horse! Big deal. People make these horses out to be heros and such. These people really need to get back to reality and stop pretending horses are people.
1 horse has to be the fastest. Is that any reason to stop the world? I don't think so when at the same time YOUR Country is keeping this earth in a war like state. Peace on earth will never happen if all the people with money are playing with horses while the Goverment is taking everyones freedoms away.
Horses mean nothing in the real world.
It's a freakin horse. He was a fast horse! Big deal. People make these horses out to be heros and such. These people really need to get back to reality and stop pretending horses are people.
1 horse has to be the fastest. Is that any reason to stop the world? I don't think so when at the same time YOUR Country is keeping this earth in a war like state. Peace on earth will never happen if all the people with money are playing with horses while the Goverment is taking everyones freedoms away.
Horses mean nothing in the real world.
earl said:
As for me I think they should have put him down the second it happened. This horse was never going to enjoy his life after that accident. It was not possible unless they amputated the leg like the other poster has said.
I happen to believe putting him down that day was the right thing to do and that does not make me have a lack of compassion. In fact I am just the opposite!
You people think what you want without thinking about what is really said. To keep the horse alive was to give him 9 months of never ending pain.
